Israel wiping the floor with Palestine

[Drachen]

That has been true for Zionists, but long before Israelite Zionism was a realistic solution was the need of a place for Jews to have the basic human rights to property and equal protection under law. Post-diaspora Jewry was reduced to second-class citizens in the Christian and Muslim countries they fled to. To answer the question of [q] whats stopping the israelis from gtfo of that region and settle somewhere else...[/q] The sheer number of Jews that would have migrated to another country to set up a safe place for themselves would have instantly been a threat to X country's native population and likely triggered a genocide or war of some sort -- natives wouldn't have welcomed them with open arms, at any rate.

... Kinda like what happened when israel was made.

[boutons_deux]

A phrase used by the Israelis when they go after a new crop of Gaza/Hamas militants replacing the dead ones is "mowing the lawn".

[admiralsnackbar]

... Kinda like what happened when israel was made.

Bingo, the only difference being the land of what is now Israel was guaranteed by (primarily) England, whereas any other Jewish migration would probably have been taken as an act of war/invasion. An interesting/tragic exception was Birobidzahn, which Stalin created in Siberia as a resolution to "the Jewish question."

[boutons_deux]

With practical brilliance like this in the CIA, no wonder the CIA is a laughing stock for missing nearly everything of importance in the last few decades.

Former CIA analyst Michael Scheuer told Fox News: "No country has a right to exist.”

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/11/1...=Google+Reader

[ChumpDumper]

Do you have a map for the Israeli rocket threat?

[TDMVPDPOY]

isnt america another word for israel? why u guys and UK continue to bend over for these clowns is beyond me....

[SA210]

Wow..Hypocrite much?

A few words from the President on Israel/Gaza..

[CosmicCowboy]

Hamas has seriously ed up. They though Egypt would back their play but the Egyptian Sunnis are a lot more pragmatic that the Hamas Shiites...Egypt has already d itself out to the US, Great Britain, and the IMF for billions in foreign aid....they aren't going to risk that by backing the Hamas cowboys play...and Hamas can't hurt the Israelis and are themselves getting chopped to by the Israeli air force.

[clambake]

eh, airplanes or bulldozers.

[Wild Cobra]

Do you have a map for the Israeli rocket threat?

It doesn't matter. Israel's attacks are in response to them being attacked.

[ChumpDumper]

It doesn't matter.

Well, it might not matter -- what is the range of their bulldozers?

Israel's attacks are in response to them being attacked.

I guess they just assassinate foreign leaders preemptively and blamelessly.

[Th'Pusher]

Anonymous declares cyberwar on Israel

[CosmicCowboy]

I guess they just assassinate foreign leaders preemptively and blamelessly.

Kind of like the United States?

[ChumpDumper]

Kind of like the United States?

Which foreign government leader did the US assassinate lately?

[CosmicCowboy]

Is Hamas technically a foreign government? We knock off suspected Taliban and Al Quaeda leaders all the time. One could say we were pretty ing complicit in knocking off Gaddafi since the rebels would never have captured him without our air support.

[Drachen]

Kind of like the United States?

I know that this isn't the purpose of you posting the picture, but damn those look badass

[SA210]

[ChumpDumper]

Is Hamas technically a foreign government?

Yes. It is.

[CosmicCowboy]

Yes. It is.

Was the PLO technically a foreign government?

[Jacob1983]

So what kind of threat does Palestine pose to Israel? I'm just curious because Israel is a developed country going up against a 3rd world country(yes I know that Palestine isn't technically a country).

[Wild Cobra]

Anonymous declares cyberwar on Israel

Wow.

They just made themselves a legitimate assassination target!

[Jacob1983]

So again, what kind of threat does Palestine pose to Israel? I just don't get it.

[Wild Cobra]

Is Hamas technically a foreign government? We knock off suspected Taliban and Al Quaeda leaders all the time. One could say we were pretty ing complicit in knocking off Gaddafi since the rebels would never have captured him without our air support.

If I recall, it was all Hamas candidates that won the new free elections.

[ElNono]

Hamas has seriously ed up. They though Egypt would back their play but the Egyptian Sunnis are a lot more pragmatic that the Hamas Shiites...Egypt has already d itself out to the US, Great Britain, and the IMF for billions in foreign aid....they aren't going to risk that by backing the Hamas cowboys play...and Hamas can't hurt the Israelis and are themselves getting chopped to by the Israeli air force.

Well, disagree. Egypt will keep feeding Hamas through back channels. Same for Syria, Libya, Iran, Tunisia, Pakistan and up to an extent Turkey.

The common mistake is to try to apply logic to religious conflicts. This isn't some little rogue group doing this stuff. People there actually voted to put Hamas in power (same as Egypt and Tunisia, and sooner or later Lybia).

Parents feel honored to have their 15, 16 year old kids accepted in these militias fully aware the endgame is martyrdom.

Sucks for Israel, but there's no end to this except for a major leveling of not just Gaza but a good chunk of the ME.

[SA210]