soooooo like what?
Over 9 million a year for a 30 year old who was sat down in crunch-time for about half the playoff games, averaged about 9 points a game in the playoffs, and who only had about 3 good playoff games out of 10, and lost his supposed 4th scorer responsibilities to George Hill and even got benched in the regular season . . .
I can see why some people aren't jumping for joy.
I am not a GM. You want me to come up with some random idea? I have a concept, but to give specific players is difficult.
Talk about opinion
Two rookies that have not played a single NBA minute? Really?
There's a lot of 'potential' in your take, but little really grounded in reality.
I understand this but then you sit up here like you were expecting kobe ing bryant to sign here this summer or for us to look into getting bosh and wade to san antonio. I mean I don't understand what you wanted. The team we have is good. It's a really good team and it has a shot. What did you want them to do besides not bringing back RJ (I understand this, I think the whole damn board knows you didn't want RJ) so who did you want?
Oh my. Since when are Spurs fans such cheapskates? Hey, the Spurs saved a lot of effing money with that Scola trade. Man, that was awesome.
If you find yourself worked up about this contract, drink.
my point was more of this supporting cast is plenty good for the big 3 to win. or atleast it would have been a couple years back.
I tell you what we could have done. We could have actively looked for teams that wanted Bonner or RJ, and worked on a S&T to bring an actual defensive specialist in the wing who is not soft as , and potentially another good shooter or two who don't happen to choke in the playoffs.
Duncan in 04 had his own version of RJ, a choking afraid-to-shoot wing player named Hedo Turkoglu.
Difference between then and now is that Hedo was 24 with his best years ahead of him whom the Spurs weren't even offering the MLE. RJ is 30 with his best years behind him who is getting over 9 per. And also Hedo was even worse than RJ PER-wise.
Maybe, maybe not...It might have been over years ago, we will find out soon enough. I honestly believe RJ will be much better in the coming season. I guess when you say "ballsy move" I guess you are referring to move like trading a couple of trash contracts for legit sf to help...It is never that easy and the spurs in my opinion in the championship years never had the most talent on one team, they just simply became the best TEAM. These guys just simply have to stay healthy and play together (which they could not do last season) to have any chance (yes, they have a chance)at another championship
Come on Marcus.
Oh my. Since when are Spurs fans such cheapskates? Hey, the Spurs saved a lot of effing money with that Scola trade. Man, that was awesome.
If you find yourself worked up about this contract, drink.
If we would have addressed some of the problems we had last playoffs, then this would be hardly noticed. But not only we stick with what hasn't been working for a while now, we're also jeopardizing extending Parker because of it.
What exactly are the Spurs saving money for at this point? In two years it's back to playing the lottery.
RJ is not the only reason the Spurs got swept (or the reason that the Spurs struggled all year for that matter). Nobody on the team showed championship effort in that Suns series and it is no surprise they got their asses kicked. The Spurs struggled all year, never came together for any significant stretch, snuck into the playoffs and blew their wad on the Dallas Mavericks. They had nothing left for Phoenix and it showed.
The Spurs are going to try and tweak the line-up for another run this season and as fans, we should give them the benefit of the doubt and not hang them out to dry before a single game is played.
C'mon, Dude. You're bumming me out.
What defensive specialist was available?..We've gone down this road before..
I just see this being really damn hard to accomplish. Just because we pick up the phone and call a good shooter doesn't mean they are willing to come here for such little money we have. S&T I am sure could be a possibility but I'm a little confused thinking about a defensive specialist wing who isn't soft as that could come in and pick up the system and be better than RJ will be this upcoming year. Oh and then when we do find a player that might fit well, the team that were going to trade to has to agree to trading a SF for a SF.
How people forget we beat the second seed.
My worry is that they were just painted into a corner. They acquired RJ as a two year gamble knowing they could completely retool again in 2011. When RJ opted out, however, they were stuck. RJ and his agent knew that the Spurs couldn't acquire a veteran replacement they'd have confidence in, and essentially played a game of chicken.
"RJ would definitely be open to returning. Make us an offer. {offer made}. Listen, RJ liked it there, he really did. But he was a little uncomfortable. He's going to look around and see what kind of deal he can get. "
And let the Spurs sweat. Sure, there was a chance they'd just sign a vet with their LLE and roll with him and Hairston, but it was unlikely given that they are in such a "win now" mode for Tim. The agent and RJ know how Pop/RC feel about Duncan, and gambled that they wouldn't let him go into what could be his 2nd to last season surrounded by kids.
So they called the Spurs' bluff. They strung San Antonio along, maybe even overplayed RJs desire to go elsewhere just to squeeze more money out of them. And Pop/RC knew this had to be the guy because he was the only one available to them. That's why they didn't lower their offer even though the market for RJ dipped well below. If they had to "convince" him to come back, they might've even sweetened their offer to get him to agree.
A two year gamble turns into a five year gamble, and the FO is willing to take on a bad contract (or two) for Tim's sake. They'll just work their ass off to help Jefferson and the kids improve, and hope that's enough.
I'm not claiming this is definitely how it went down. It's a pretty ty scenario, but certainly a plausible one.
Jefferson isn't a lock down defender but that wasn't the problem last year. It was interior defense and overall team defense. Everybody was confused and missed rotations leaving shooters wide open. Not to mention a bench that had Bogens and Mason. Boston didn't have a lock down defender but played great team defense. I think Jefferson was overpaid but not to the extreme everyone is implying. He is still a very talented player who played very good at times last year.
When TD's deal is up, that will free $20 million in cap room, so give it a rest already.
People that keep objecting this signing continue to make no sense... unless you would rather have blown the team up. Because there is no way in what he have or what we could have gotten is better than what RJ is and could be.
To make a long story short, this signing is:
- Good for the short term
- Bad for the long term
it doesn't matter to them... that series was a "toss up".
In the long term the Spurs will be playing the lottery. So who cares?
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