David Stern Goes Off on Pop, Promises "Substantial Sanctions"

[hater]

btw, why aren't sponsors just treated like regular nba folk? I thought corporations were people according to our cons ution

[Brazil]

Somebody has the TNT tv rating for the yesterday game?

[lefty]

Nobody lost money.

I did

I bet 10 000 000 on the Spurs

[timvp]

disagree. Stern's move was 100% financially motivated. you know like 99 out of his 100 every moves.

plus the sponsons definitely lost money on the commercials investment nobody watched

The sponsors make purchases for more than one game. Plus, 1) The ratings were probably as high or higher than they would have been without the controversy 2) The controversy pushed the NBA to the headlines and will probably result in better ratings in the future

The point is the NBA didn't lose any money because this won't affect TV negotiations. TNT didn't lose any money because the ads were already sold. And with the way things played out, TNT and the sponsors will probably be better off because this has got people talking about the NBA ... which usually doesn't happen until after the Super Bowl.

[lefty]

Somebody has the TNT tv rating for the yesterday game?

RANK	NETWORK(S) PROGRAM	TYPE	UNIQUES (share)	TWEETS (share)	BUZZ
1	NFL Football New Orleans Saints at Atlanta Falcons	Sports event	171,032 (15.91%)	444,672 (17.76%)	1665
2	The X Factor	Series	153,698 (14.3%)	438,868 (17.53%)	3846
3	NBA Basketball San Antonio Spurs at Miami Heat Also:	Sports event	136,429 (12.69%)	291,314 (11.64%)	1562
4	Glee	Series	78,078 (7.26%)	171,032 (6.83%)	267
5	The Vampire Diaries	Series	54,619 (5.08%)	144,392 (5.77%)	182
6	College Football Louisville at Rutgers	Sports event	34,515 (3.21%)	63,426 (2.53%)	833
7	College Basketball Kentucky at Notre Dame	Sports event	34,554 (3.21%)	52,253 (2.09%)	1068
8	Scandal	Series	28,348 (2.64%)	92,091 (3.68%)	117
9	Jersey Shore	Series	27,456 (2.55%)	37,072 (1.48%)	77
10	Grey's Anatomy	Series	25,237 (2.35%)	41,614 (1.66%)	84
11	NBA Basketball Denver Nuggets at Golden State Warriors	Sports event	21,622 (2.01%)	37,842 (1.51%)	470
12	SportsCenter Also:	Sports non-ev

[Boomersgold]

The sponsors make purchases for more than one game. Plus, 1) The ratings were probably as high or higher than they would have been without the controversy 2) The controversy pushed the NBA to the headlines and will probably result in better ratings in the future

The point is the NBA didn't lose any money because this won't affect TV negotiations. TNT didn't lose any money because the ads were already sold. And with the way things played out, TNT and the sponsors will probably be better off because this has got people talking about the NBA ... which usually doesn't happen until after the Super Bowl.

So if you think it wasn't motivated by financial losses, then what problem does Stern have with resting our oldest players?

[polandprzem]

So if you think it wasn't motivated by financial losses, then what problem does Stern have with resting our oldest players?

Embarrassment and unprofessional and not sportsmanship.

[timvp]

So if you think it wasn't motivated by financial losses, then what problem does Stern have with resting our oldest players?

Power trip, mostly.

[hater]

The sponsors make purchases for more than one game.

what difference does that make? to greedy millionaires a buck lost is lost money. Again we are not talking about your or me regular folk. we are talking about greedy money counting billionaires

1) The ratings were probably as high or higher than they would have been without the controversy

prove it

2) The controversy pushed the NBA to the headlines and will probably result in better ratings in the future

Pop, Spurs in the headlines for a few days is not going to result in better ratings. Never did, never will

The point is the NBA didn't lose any money because this won't affect TV negotiations. TNT didn't lose any money because the ads were already sold. And with the way things played out, TNT and the sponsors will probably be better off because this has got people talking about the NBA ... which usually doesn't happen until after the Super Bowl.

So if this was not financially motivated, what was the reason of Stern's actions? He geniuinely felt bad for the regular NBA paying folk please

[Mel_13]

So if you think it wasn't motivated by financial losses, then what problem does Stern have with resting our oldest players?

Pop gave a big EFF YOU to the league by doing this in a nationally televised against the defending champs. If he had done the same thing the night before in Orlando, then Stern says nothing. This is an aging dictator asserting his power.

[elbamba]

touting the company line:

Fran Blinebury: "Pop can't dance out of this one"

Schmitz take: NBA should suspend Popovich for no-shows

The arguments are dumb. I have a simple solution for improving Stern's product: drop 15 games during the regular season and get rid of back-to-back games. It is absolutely absurd the number of games they play and we see players take games off all the time. They might play in the game, but they do not give 100%. Say what you will but Pop gets the most out of his players every night for reasons like last night. He knows how to coach.

One other thing. I bet not one damn Miami fan went to the game last night to watch the Spurs. They went to see Lebron dunk. The only disappointed fans would have been Spurs fans at the game, until they had a close game that the Spurs almost won.

[Dingle Barry]

That many people watch the X Factor? I was forced to watch that garbage during an NLCS rain delay and wanted to kill myself. That show will make its viewership even dumber than they already are. God help us all.

[Boomersgold]

1) The ratings were probably as high or higher than they would have been without the controversy 2) The controversy pushed the NBA to the headlines and will probably result in better ratings in the future

prove it

RANK	NETWORK(S) PROGRAM	TYPE	UNIQUES (share)	TWEETS (share)	BUZZ
1	NFL Football New Orleans Saints at Atlanta Falcons	Sports event	171,032 (15.91%)	444,672 (17.76%)	1665
2	The X Factor	Series	153,698 (14.3%)	438,868 (17.53%)	3846
3	NBA Basketball San Antonio Spurs at Miami Heat Also:	Sports event	136,429 (12.69%)	291,314 (11.64%)	1562
4	Glee	Series	78,078 (7.26%)	171,032 (6.83%)	267
5	The Vampire Diaries	Series	54,619 (5.08%)	144,392 (5.77%)	182
6	College Football Louisville at Rutgers	Sports event	34,515 (3.21%)	63,426 (2.53%)	833
7	College Basketball Kentucky at Notre Dame	Sports event	34,554 (3.21%)	52,253 (2.09%)	1068
8	Scandal	Series	28,348 (2.64%)	92,091 (3.68%)	117
9	Jersey Shore	Series	27,456 (2.55%)	37,072 (1.48%)	77
10	Grey's Anatomy	Series	25,237 (2.35%)	41,614 (1.66%)	84
11	NBA Basketball Denver Nuggets at Golden State Warriors	Sports event	21,622 (2.01%)	37,842 (1.51%)	470
12	SportsCenter Also:	Sports non-ev

These ratings don't look too bad.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the tv ratings and ad breaks, what sponsorship and ads were they selling? lol stupid insurance, kia motors, some bull fast food chain...oh yeh selling fake ass next generation nba ballers

[Whisky Dog]

How anyone can think any money was lost is beyond me. They had a good ratings share for the time slot.

Stern doesn't care about the fans, but he cares about the image and he felt pre game that this sort of thing will look bad for image. That apology to fans was just bS posturing all in the name of image. In the end we ended up with a far more entertaining game than we would have otherwise. Almost saw the unthinkable happen: Gary Neal out duel Lebron James

[TDMVPDPOY]

lol the nuggets tv rating after the spurs game....

[Mel_13]

Confusion around NBA and league office on how Stern structures fine for Spurs. Some believe he'll hit organization, not Popovich personally.

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA

[TDMVPDPOY]

aint we under the cap, wont hurt us, we just collect it back when the nba distributes the revenue sharing luxury tax collected to the teams under the cap

[Dex]

How can Stern fine the Spurs or penalize them?

They didn't break any rule.


A law has to exist before it can be broken. If Stern wants to try to change the rulings, have at it. But him doing anything against the Spurs would be completely unjustified, and if he tries, I would love to see them try to contest it.

[timvp]

So Stern is going to penalize his right-hand man in labor negotiations because a coach made a coaching decision?

[Juggity]

How can Stern fine the Spurs or penalize them?

They didn't break any rule.


A law has to exist before it can be broken. If Stern wants to try to change the rulings, have at it. But him doing anything against the Spurs would be completely unjustified, and if he tries, I would love to see them try to contest it.

Exactly. Ex post facto.

[TDMVPDPOY]

So Stern is going to penalize his right-hand man in labor negotiations because a coach made a coaching decision?

lol holt on the left, bonner on the players union team...pop on the coaches...we are in a win win situation

[Dex]

Dammit, ESPN just had JVG on commenting on the situation but the volume was muted where I'm at. Anybody catch it for a recap?

[smaka]

So, Stern obviously wanted to show the whole public and people watching game on national TV how good, awesome, great, super cool his Miami monkeys are in comparison to Spurs, but of course Pop saw it coming and ed with him like a cat plays with mouse. Pop is the best! yo team clown Stern.

[TampaDude]

lol holt on the left, bonner on the players union team...pop on the coaches...we are in a win win situation

^ this

Stern is between the proverbial rock and a hard place.