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    You'd be a shirker if the law allowed it.

    Nuff said. No reponsibility unless the law commands.
    Do you take the deductions you are legally allowed to take?

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    Trump could dispel all this rumor-mongering by releasing his taxes. He must have good reasons not to.
    Or, he could say I'll realease my tax return when Hillary releases her emails (mostly recipes, I'm sure).

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    Good answer. Now we know where you're coming from.

    Reap the fruits of the common good, but no sense of responsibilty that it should cost you.

    You think you're owed it for free.

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    Or, he could say I'll realease my tax return when Hillary releases her emails (mostly recipes, I'm sure).
    We've seen scads of emails. Trump tax returns?

    Zero.

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    There have been some in the media who have criticized Wikileaks.

    There were some in the media who criticized Wikileaks when it first became a thing.

    Throughout it all, they've reported on Wikileaks and the fallout that occurred because of it.

    Where's the disconnect that you would attribute to "the press" as a whole? And why are you so convinced this wouldn't have happened in the age of Woodward and Bernstein?

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    Do you take the deductions you are legally allowed to take?
    I don't try to weasel out of or claim losses borne by others. I don't game it.

    Bully on you if you do.

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    I don't try to weasel out of or claim losses borne by others. I don't game it.

    Bully on you if you do.
    I'm actually conservative on both my corporate and personal taxes. I haev had clean audits on both.

    And there's that totally unsubstantiated claim again that Trump deducted others losses on his tax returns. Please explain how you think that would work and how you think the IRS would allow it.

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    And no, I don't take everything available. I don't have enough money to pay someone else to teach me how to screw Uncle Sam and my fellow citizens.

    Honestly, it's not worth my time to try to figure out how to shirk my responsibilities to the public thing -- the republic, we used to say.

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    Sound scared

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    I'm actually conservative on both my corporate and personal taxes. I haev had clean audits on both.

    And there's that totally unsubstantiated claim again that Trump deducted others losses on his tax returns. Please explain how you think that would work and how you think the IRS would allow it.
    I'll dig up the link. Tax law allowed it at the time. It was so screwed up a Republican Congress changed it.

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    I'll dig up the link. Tax law allowed it at the time. It was so screwed up a Republican Congress changed it.
    While you are at it, explain how you know that's what it was. The most knowledgeable tax professionals in the world can't determine where the losses came from based on the three pages that were published.

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    There are some pretty good guesses. Trump could clear it all up in one day but for some reason he won't.

    Do you think presidential candidates should release tax returns, CC?

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    Don't you think voters should know how candidates stand to profit from the power they might wield?

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    I'm scared either way, tbh. It's a scary juncture.

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    I strongly dislike both candidates.

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    While you are at it, explain how you know that's what it was. The most knowledgeable tax professionals in the world can't determine where the losses came from based on the three pages that were published.
    I read that he took Other Peoples' Money, lost it all, then claimed the losses as deductions on his personal income tax.

    And some investors agreed to write down the value of their investments in Trash's fiascos. The IRS considers such write down of financial obligations as effective revenue, just like they do with a bank writes down or excuses a mortgage.

    As was said, even the IRS-hating Repugs voted to make that scam illegal shortly after.

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    There are some pretty good guesses. Teump could clear it all up in one day but foe some reason he won't.

    Do you think presidential candidates should release tax returns, CC?
    I'm honestly not sure. I do know that mine last year was about 90 pages long just with my relatively simple business and personal structure. I can't imagine how complex Trumps would be. Would it really serve any purpose to have political hacks poring over every detail of his multi thousand page tax return?

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    Please pardon me for asking for a particle of transparency regarding your man. He won't give it, and you won't demand it for some reason, even though it's expected of everone else.

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    There have been some in the media who have criticized Wikileaks.

    There were some in the media who criticized Wikileaks when it first became a thing.

    Throughout it all, they've reported on Wikileaks and the fallout that occurred because of it.

    Where's the disconnect that you would attribute to "the press" as a whole? And why are you so convinced this wouldn't have happened in the age of Woodward and Bernstein?
    I'll let someone on your side explain


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    I read that he took Other Peoples' Money, lost it all, then claimed the losses as deductions on his personal income tax.

    And some investors agreed to write down the value of their investments in Trash's fiascos. The IRS considers such write down of financial obligations as effective revenue, just like they do with a bank writes down or excuses a mortgage.

    As was said, even the IRS-hating Repugs voted to make that scam illegal shortly after.


    We all know the kind of you read, Boo...

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    I'm honestly not sure. I do know that mine last year was about 90 pages long just with my relatively simple business and personal structure. I can't imagine how complex Trumps would be. Would it really serve any purpose to have political hacks poring over every detail of his multi thousand page tax return?
    if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.

    Every candidate before Trump put up with it. He's either a coward, has something to hide, or both.

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    I'll let someone on your side explain

    I've seen this video. Did you watch it or did you just read the le?

    And what do you have against Greenwald? Why isn't he on your side?

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    Did you watch it or did you just read the le?
    Many of them do. We either (1) don't take the time to read anything beyond a headline, or (2) write them off as shills for the opposition.
    ... or we take at face value partisan headlines that don't match the content.

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    reading past the lede isn't DarrinS's thing. it's bit him on the ass like a thousand times.

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    I mean the whole segment is about how the press is covering Wikileaks. He points out why it's important, even though Clinton partisans may not think it's important. There's not a shred of "roasting" even happening.

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