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And he's right. The roster outside of Kawhi isn't good enough.
Stephen A says we'd be no better.
And he's right. The roster outside of Kawhi isn't good enough.
Pros for CP3. Maybe he has come up short for the Clippers as a #1 guy but we have a closer here. We need another scorer to lighten the load for Kawhi and that's all. I'm leaning on keeping the squad together and growing organically but . CP3 as a #2 and LMA as a #3 would be ideal for everyone. Surround them with shooters and a finishing big and your on to something. Kawhi is goona make lesser players look better and CP3 can do the same. I'm fully confident the Spurs can surround those 3. Plus there will be usual band wagoners looking to join a contender... Personally I prefer a longer window but CP3 will definitely increase our odds. Makes me think the Spurs will trade down in the draft or just trade really if they go for Paul. 2nd round picks mean alot less money. Anyone know the cap hit for 2nd round picks?
Cap hit is zero on second round picks. Teams do have to submit a tender to keep the draft rights but they are for unguaranteed minimums that can be withdrawn and renounced at any time.
that's what I was thinking. It'd be the safe play cause you can go after Paul you don't have to sign any contracts until you know for sure. And also with the new two way contracts more picks is valuable imo. Makes alot of sense for the Spurs to trade down..
Kinda would prefer someone younger than CP3 tbh. CP3 is on the wrong side of 30 and is soon to be a TOSB tbh.
Teams with multiple 2nd round picks:
Atlanta: 31, 60
Phoenix 32, 54
Orlando: 33, 35
Philadelphia: 36, 39, 46, 50
Boston: 37, 53, 56
I'd keep an eye on these tbh
Orlando and Philadelphia sounds about right
Not to mention you could get a pick these year and maybe next
Nothing changes because we already are better than Golden State
Nothing changes because we already are better than Golden State
More numbers breakdowns:
http://www.basketballinsiders.com/nb...nd-chris-paul/
Thanks for sharing. Some of the "gutting of the roster" is due to Father time and can't be helped. Tony is injured and may return from that injury in Kirby state (I mean fragile, injury prone, body breaking down frequently and never quite the same. He was already very brittle these past few years and that's not going to change and may be worse).
Then Patty is going to be paid and he's not a starting caliber guard. His ceiling is 6th man, but the Spurs already have Pau sort of in that role and he's paid handsomely.
Manu may retire and if he doesn't he still may be diminished by Father time at 40. It can't be helped.
Some things just can't be helped. They won't be better by standing pat bc father time is catching up.
They need to develop the young guys they have.
I am not sure about Paul, but right now they may be required to make a move just go maintain their current edge. (Paul or any other FA)... It can't be helped to shed depth when Spurs were replacing in consecutive seasons Tim,Manu and Tony (or the very reduced production by these last two if they are still in the roster).
I agree but weren't the Spurs competing for a championship, before Kawhi went down?
.. That is the million dollar question. Right there with the 'Big Bang Theory'... Or which came 1st chick or the egg.. Maybe its better off we done know.
I would say maybe we want to see what the 2 teams you've mentioned are paying over the salary cap.. Spurs could be playing a budget game long term.. While sure they are over the cap by 6 mil, what are those other 2 teams payin..
They were, but I don't think bringing back this same team will cut it. An older TP, Manu and Pau just won't cut it. You can't rely on them to keep trying to turn back the clock.
Really seemed Marcellus Wiley hates the idea and must be a Clipper fan???
I get the leverage perspective and it makes sense to use that argument ....but I don't think anyone doubted LAC offering the max so I wouldn't say it's a legit case. 90% of the media thought KD was staying in OKC but he shocked the world..
I still think CP3 is a long shot but the "gutting the roster" is not accurate..The'yre possibly losing Mills, Dedmon, Simmons regardless if Paul comes here....as we all know it depends on Pau/Parker situation.
All good points. I doubt this is a leverage game (at least financial leverage), but I guess it could be a LeBron-esque "get the right pieces or I'll consider leaving" thing. More likely, there's just interest out of respect and the TD connection (Wakeforsest). If Paul does meet with other teams it will be a genuine expoloration, but even if his intentions are sincere, I doubt in the long run he turns down that big money.
I personally go between wanting to see it happen (who doesn't love acquire hall of famers still (barely) in their primes?) and be worried we'd be strapping ourselves financially for an under-sized, injury-prone aging point guard (as good as he is).
There are parallels between the pursuit of Kidd with young Parker, and now the (potential) pursuit of Paul with young Murray. Wasn't there some Garth Brooks song about unanswered prayers?
All good points. I doubt this is a leverage game (at least financial leverage), but I guess it could be a LeBron-esque "get the right pieces or I'll consider leaving" thing. More likely, there's just interest out of respect and the TD connection (Wakeforsest). If Paul does meet with other teams it will be a genuine expoloration, but even if his intentions are sincere, I doubt in the long run he turns down that big money.
I personally go between wanting to see it happen (who doesn't love acquire hall of famers still (barely) in their primes?) and be worried we'd be strapping ourselves financially for an under-sized, injury-prone aging point guard (as good as he is).
There are parallels between the pursuit of Kidd with young Parker, and now the (potential) pursuit of Paul with young Murray. Wasn't there some Garth Brooks song about unanswered prayers?
I think there's legitimate interest on both parties. Woj has stated he doesn't know where this came from....but he was the first person I heard to bring up possibility back in October before the season started...There's just so much smoke around this story that I wouldn't be shocked either way..
http://news4sanantonio.com/sports/sp...ase-chris-paul
^Yeah Woj has no idea where that came from...
Since he mentioned that in October 2016 I feel it's more realistic NOW due to injury of Parker and the dud of Pau and LMA
The gutting the roster issue did stand out to me at first and was a huge deterrent for me but you're right that were going to lose those guys anyway. The big thing is we have to lose two of the following 4:
Pau
Tony
Danny
Aldridge
Without taking any salary back to make room for a true max. I don't buy the whole gutting the roster thing because as every "super team" had proven it's that vets flock to those teams for the minimum when they're ring chasing. I think we could trade Pay and stretch Tony's deal to make room for it and still hold onto Green and Aldridge.
My big sticking point is paying a PG on the wrong side of thirty with lots of miles on his legs a max deal for four years. I think short term we would be okay but it puts us in a bad place 2-3 years from now.
I don't like the Idea either but Pop would give cp3 nights off. Not sure if they do that with clippers.
You are basically replacing 41 games played in California with 41 in Texas. The California rate of 13.3% means that on a salary of $25 million he would save $25,000,000 x .5 x .133=$1,662,500.
3 years from now is an eternity in the NBA. Heck, it takes 10 minutes to play the last 30 seconds of a close game...
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I don't want CP3... I say go after Cojo or G. Hill an go get Marco back. Resign mills an keep devolving Murray! Don't but our team for them injury prone cry baby.
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