Duncan sounds off on the dress code

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

Ga a, please explain the ESPN poll I posted earlier.

From ESPN SportsNation's poll....

4) Are you in favor of the dress code implemented by the NBA for its players?
59.0% Yes
41.0% No

10) Should the NFL, MLB and NHL use similar dress codes for their players?
54.5% No
45.5% Yes

I'm not calling you a racist... I just don't see how anyone can suggest race is not involved here.

**Gatita** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Marcus Bryant

Absolutely. It's just the NBA ruling out certain forms of dress that are popular among young African-Americans on its predominately African-American players due to the concerns raised by a few corporate sponsors, at a time when no other major US professional sport league has a dress code policy.

That's all.

You gotta be kidding me! All teenyboppers are dressing like that nowadays. It isn't specific to only ONE race.

**Mixability** · 10-20-2005

could they ammend the dress code to include banning Craig Sager's suits?!?!

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

All teenyboppers are dressing like that nowadays.

How many of those teenyboppers play in the NBA?

**nkdlunch** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Jimcs50

So, you do not think an employer can dictate the dress and behavior of their employees????

If my business was in steady decline, and I noticed that the attire of my employees was not professional, it might behoove me to try to change their dress and see if that might help.

Is that so hard to understand?

Yes Jim, the NBA is declining because of what these players are wearing nowadays

**Gatita** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

Ga a, please explain the ESPN poll I posted earlier.

I'm not calling you a racist... I just don't see how anyone can suggest race is not involved here.

Those STATS are too close for me to firmly state anything.

**Jimcs50** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Danyo

could they ammend the dress code to include banning Craig Sager's suits?!?!

The problem is, Sager's suits look more professional than what a lot of the players are wearing to games.

**pache100** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by dbreiden83080

So because there have never been dress code rules that means that there never should be. Things change in life all the time you have to adjust to it regardless of the reasons why. I would think anyone making their kind of money should feel pretty damn privileged, without the NBA they would not be who they are that is what i meant by privilege.

I'd appreciate it if you didn't put words in my mouth. My remark was in response to this quote from your post: "their are rules that come with privilege's." The fact is there have never BEEN rules. I have no objection to rules if there are good reasons for them and they make sense. The only reason for these new rules is prejudice. By a few. They are the ones that need to get over themselves. How much money someone makes is totally irrelevant. They still have the right to disagree, and they still have the right to express their opinions of stupid rules, no matter how rich they are nor how much money they make.

**Gatita** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

How many of those teenyboppers play in the NBA?

Teenyboppers means teenagers...children.

And the answer is none.

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

13.5% of the people surveyed believe the NBA should have a dress code, but not the other leagues.

Why would this be?

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

Teenyboppers means teenagers...children. And the answer is none.

Right. The NBA Dress Code isn't targeting them. It is, however, sending a message to them.

Don't Dress "Black."

**Jimcs50** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by nkdlunch

Yes Jim, the NBA is declining because of what these players are wearing nowadays

It is not what they are wearing, it is precisley because there are a bunch of spoiled punks in the league for the most part, and all this whining and pulling out the race card is an example of it.

Dressing and acting like profesionals can help their image, an image that the NBA is trying to improve, since MJ left.

Is that so hard to understand????

**Gatita** · 10-20-2005

Maybe those individuals polled don't GAF about other sports aside from basketball.

If you loved and cared about only one sport, why would you give a about what is going on or how things are handled in other sports.

I wouldn't.

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

It's a yes or no question, I don't see why one's fandom to a sport would have any bearing on how they answer the question "Should this league implement a dress code?"

It's just as easy to click Yes as it is No. I don't buy that "No" is the default answer for "I Don't GAF."

**dbreiden83080** · 10-20-2005

the second poll question is very close and it is not about race. The NBA players much more than any other sport dress very unprofessional, you do not see it as much in the nfl or mlb that is a fact. The bottom line is when corporate sponsors are complaining about the overall appearance of the players that affects business and stern did what he had to do to keep those sponsors happy.

**Gatita** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

Right. The NBA Dress Code isn't targeting them. It is, however, sending a message to them.

Don't Dress "Black."

Who says its a black thing?! Cholos have been wearing wifebeaters, baggy pants, and gold around there necks for decades!!!

**Gatita** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

It's a yes or no question, I don't see why one's fandom to a sport would have any bearing on how they answer the question "Should this league implement a dress code?"

It's just as easy to click Yes as it is No. I don't buy that "No" is the default answer for "I Don't GAF."

That's what you BELIEVE. You think the average american is going to sit there at there computer contemplating this ?! Gimme a break! I know people have better things to do and worry about.

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

There is precisely one "cholo" in the NBA. Assuming he hasn't retired from injury.

**SpursWoman** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Ga a

Good Lord. Everyone is reading way more into it then they should be. It has nothing to do with us, poor people, or racism.

Sorry, if someone of color doesn't agree with or like something...the motive behind it is automatically racist. There is absolutely, positively no other acceptable explaination.

I love my job and I make really good money, if they told me that I had to start wearing stockings and skirts starting tomorrow, I'd wear stockings and skirts starting tomorrow. It'd be inconvenient and I wouldn't really like it, but IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

You'd think they were asking them to hand over their manhood or something by the way some have been responding.

**Manu'sMagicalLeftHand** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by NASHville

And the owners sign the checks. Now STFU, get dressed and and move on.

Originally Posted by smeagol

huh?

Farfetched analogy if I ever saw one.

The three of you just don't get it, right?

What about if the league suddenly says that an acceptable dress code does not include long hair and a four days beard? Ginobili, Nocioni, Oberto and Scola (in the future) would obviously complain, the rule would look directed towards them, but I guess we don't care, since it's aimed on African American players...

Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA

BUT A MILDLY STRICT DRESS CODE IS NOT ING UNFAIR CONSIDERING ALL THE OTHER PERKS THAT COME WITH THAT JOB!! Players need to STFU and realise they are in a position to set a good example. Wearing a suit never killed anyone!

Midly? Not Unfair? By whose standards? Midly if you are the average middle-class white guy. Again, if the person makes a lot of money because he plays basketball, he shouldn't be forced to wear what is said by other people to set a good example. What good example? If you believe a suit is a good example and it will make people more professional and prevent thuggish behaviour, you're far away from reality. Why does people answer that the dress code is needed in the NBA and not in other leagues? How that isn't racist? Why isn't anyone screaming for a dress code in the NHL?

Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA

I wear a suit to work every day for crying out loud! Why should they be excempt from following a dress code implemented by their employers when most normal people aren't.

I don't, I own my own business because of that, I don't like being told by idiots (usually who works as a manager or CEO is a , but that's another issue). Personally, I couldn't care less if I'm making business with someone dressed as Dracula or Krusty The Clown, you can't judge how people is or how they work based on a ing suit. If they want to make examples, they should start by themselves, Stern and the owners. Why examples must be made of players? Is it so negative to wear hip-hop clothing? Why is it positive to wear a suit? Will I suddenly be transformed into a Nobel Prize winner if I put a tie on my neck?

Originally Posted by MaNuMaNiA

P.S You know what happens if you complain about wearing a suit on any other line of work that requires it. YOU GET CANNED! Maybe that should happen to some of these guys, it would help their ego back down to a healthy level. Right now, they're just being pampered little girls.

I do know, and that's why I'll never work for dorks who believe that a suit makes you a more professional and better person. The players egos you said? What about Stern's ego? Who the is him to say what is acceptable to wear? Shall we all put our heads down and accept what that enlightened human being tells us to do? For a start, Stern does not play 82 games a season, yet, he makes more money than many of the players in the league. I'm tired of people critizing the players making money, they are the reason why the NBA is such a damn good league. Players+Fans+Coaches+Refs=NBA....the owners do nothing but get their profits.

**nkdlunch** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Spurminator

There is precisely one "cholo" in the NBA. Assuming he hasn't retired from injury.

Manu, Arroyo, there's many cholos in the nba

**Gatita** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by SpursWoman

Sorry, if someone of color doesn't agree with or like something...the motive behind it is automatically racist. There is absolutely, positively no other acceptable explaination.

I love my job and I make really good money, if they told me that I had to start wearing stockings and skirts starting tomorrow, I'd wear stockings and skirts starting tomorrow. It'd be inconvenient and I wouldn't really like it, but IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A DEAL.

You'd think they were asking them to hand over their manhood or something by the way some have been responding.

Hey, business is business. End of story.

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Ga a

That's what you BELIEVE. You think the average american is going to sit there at there computer contemplating this ?! Gimme a break! I think and now people have better things to do and worry about.

If they were on the ESPN NBA Homepage and clicked a Poll on the Dress Code, I'm assuming they give a .

**Spurminator** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by nkdlunch

Manu, Arroyo, there's many cholos in the nba

Guess it depends on the definition of "Cholo".

In any case, MLB is half "Cholos."

**SpursWoman** · 10-20-2005

Originally Posted by Ga a

Who says its a black thing?! Cholos have been wearing wifebeaters, baggy pants, and gold around there necks for decades!!!

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