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    Devin’s game isn’t similar to a young Ray Allen at all. Lmao. When Ray was young he was the total package offensively (he actually was taking people off the bounce and everything) and a decent defender. Devin is a good defender and a solid offensive player who isn’t asked to actually carry an offense like Ray had to early in his career.

    Devin so far reminds me more of a young Khris Middleton before he got better and running the pick and roll and adding the couple of post moves he has today.

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    Devin’s game isn’t similar to a young Ray Allen at all. Lmao. When Ray was young he was the total package offensively (he actually was taking people off the bounce and everything) and a decent defender. Devin is a good defender and a solid offensive player who isn’t asked to actually carry an offense like Ray had to early in his career.

    Devin so far reminds me more of a young Khris Middleton before he got better and running the pick and roll and adding the couple of post moves he has today.
    The Middleton comparison is the closest, yet. He has a long way to go, though. His growth this season, along with DJ's, are the 2 best developments so far this young season.

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    Middleton was my first ever comp. however, Vassell is nowhere near as crafty with the ball. I pointed out Ray’s stats when he was 21 but I’m more focused on the older version of Ray. Devin makes shots with ease when there’s a hand in his face similar to Ray. They move off ball similarly and both do their damage outside. Khris can shoot from anywhere on the court. Devin isn’t there yet because he’s predictable: he will drive and pull up. There’s no post up creativity. Ray runs around and is at the right spot at the right time, Devin is almost there.

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    I wish they would run that iso play that they always ran with Kawhi/Demar/Rudy with Devin V some, I think they did it in the first game of the season against the magic and he made the shot but I haven’t seen them do it since

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    If Lonnie were ballin’, maybe, but if you start him, your bench is void. Nothing.
    Thats assuming pop biggest concern is bench production. Then the logical player is Keldon. He wont miss a beat coming off the bench and the starters get more spacing on offense .they also get a lengthier wing that excels in help defence.

    Pop is vested in Dwhite and Keldon as starters however. DWHITEs contract and Keldon was his man on the US team
    so maximising their play currently would be his priority.

    Pop cant ignore the obvious though. Devin is balling, team is mostly losing.

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    Only took 4 shots tonight. Meanwhile the team SUCKS SALTY ASS at shooting anything outside of 5 ft from the basket and this guy limited to 4 shots is our best shooter.

    What is the team even doing? Do they watch film and gameplan?

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    Only took 4 shots tonight. Meanwhile the team SUCKS SALTY ASS at shooting anything outside of 5 ft from the basket and this guy limited to 4 shots is our best shooter.

    What is the team even doing? Do they watch film and gameplan?
    Plus Lonnie would much rather get the pass while on the run.
    He looks very uncomfortable having to stand and then do the catch n shoot without any dribble.

    Open court he still rocks but it aint gonna happen under Grandpa.

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    Is it just me or does dejounte freeze him out in transition? , maybe it's everyone. Has to be every game I see him out in front filling lanes and he doesn't get the ball

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    Plus Lonnie would much rather get the pass while on the run.
    He looks very uncomfortable having to stand and then do the catch n shoot without any dribble.

    Open court he still rocks but it aint gonna happen under Grandpa.
    Spurs pace is 101.9, 4th in the NBA.

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    Only took 4 shots tonight. Meanwhile the team SUCKS SALTY ASS at shooting anything outside of 5 ft from the basket and this guy limited to 4 shots is our best shooter.

    What is the team even doing? Do they watch film and gameplan?
    yeah, i was going nuts when we were desperately looking for any kind of offense and devin was nowhere to be seen. get him the damn ball now and then. call a play for him.

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    Spurs also on pace for a top 5 pick. Go Spurs Go!

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    Another dam solid pick with vaseel, to me he's the 3rd best player on the team behind Dejounte and Jak. The Ray Allen is a good Comp. I would like to switch him and White in the starting line-up.

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    He definitely needs to be starting in place of either White or Keldon

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    Needs more touches. He’s really the only 3 level scorer on the team. His mid-range game is already elite, AND he shots 40% from 3 on the most attempts on the team. He’s 21, and hasn’t quite played one full 82 game season’s worth of games.

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    3-10 58.3
    10-16 48.1
    16-3P 46.7
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    Needs more touches. He’s really the only 3 level scorer on the team. His mid-range game is already elite, AND he shots 40% from 3 on the most attempts on the team. He’s 21, and hasn’t quite played one full 82 game season’s worth of games.

    FG% by distance

    0-3 70.6
    3-10 58.3
    10-16 48.1
    16-3P 46.7
    3P 40.0

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    i can't understand why he is not more involved in the offense. they really need to get the ball in his hands more often, especially when the spurs fall into a scoring drought, which usually happens at least twice per game.

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    i can't understand why he is not more involved in the offense. they really need to get the ball in his hands more often, especially when the spurs fall into a scoring drought, which usually happens at least twice per game.
    Sean is on this EVERY game. Pointed out that they missed an open Devin corner 3 oppo at the end of the half last night.

    Oh, and only 32.5 percent of his 3s are from the corner. He shooting 40%, primarily from above the break. Last year, 42.5% of his 3s were from the corner, and he shot a lower percentage.

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    Sean is on this EVERY game. Pointed out that they missed an open Devin corner 3 oppo at the end of the half last night.

    Oh, and only 32.5 percent of his 3s are from the corner. He shooting 40%, primarily from above the break. Last year, 42.5% of his 3s were from the corner, and he shot a lower percentage.
    Reminds me of Danny Green in terms of shot location, at least if my memory serves me right.

    I haven't gotten to watch many of the games, but he is the most impressive young player to me. I can see the allure of a future Murray/Primo/Vassell/(FA PF?)/Poeltl lineup. McD will probably be gone or be a bench player by the time this comes to fruition, and Poeltl will be a on a new contract (or gone and replaced by another defensive anchor?).

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    Vassel is shooting 47% taking 10 shots per game with a usage of 19%. Lonnie by contrast is shooting 37% on 10 shots a game but with a much higher usage of 23.5%.

    They both come off the bench and after a nice start Lonnie is starting to regress quite a bit this season. As the season moves a long some of Lonnie's usage needs to go to Vassel.

    Also the Spurs should explore Lonnie's trade value at the deadline. He appears less and less likely to get extension. Better to get something than nothing plus the Spurs might get something for a Young/Walker package. Two useful players who's combined salary is fairly reasonable.

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    Vassel is shooting 47% taking 10 shots per game with a usage of 19%. Lonnie by contrast is shooting 37% on 10 shots a game but with a much higher usage of 23.5%.

    They both come off the bench and after a nice start Lonnie is starting to regress quite a bit this season. As the season moves a long some of Lonnie's usage needs to go to Vassel.

    Also the Spurs should explore Lonnie's trade value at the deadline. He appears less and less likely to get extension. Better to get something than nothing plus the Spurs might get something for a Young/Walker package. Two useful players who's combined salary is fairly reasonable.
    Extension for Lonnie is out the window. That needed to get done by 1 November, a hard deadline in the CBA. Now, it will be a new contract when his expires this summer, either with us, or another team. He will be restricted, like Kyle Anderson was, and we would need to decide to match or not.

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    Extension for Lonnie is out the window. That needed to get done by 1 November, a hard deadline in the CBA. Now, it will be a new contract when his expires this summer, either with us, or another team. He will be restricted, like Kyle Anderson was, and we would need to decide to match or not.
    His value is 5-7mm a year and I don’t even want him back at that. He is likely to see better away so bye Walker IV, that was a great game you had vs Houston but you have shown virtually nothing with a very long leash. I’d like to see him moved before the end of the year as a throw in with Thad.

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    Comparisons aren't worth very much, but for what it's worth, Vassell reminds me of Sean.

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    Comparisons aren't worth very much, but for what it's worth, Vassell reminds me of Sean.
    He reminds me more of Alan Houston with good defense.

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    Very impressed with Vassell so far on both ends. S/B starting very soon at the 2 or 3. He's very efficient as well. Let's hope that trend continues as his usage goes up. White heading to the 6th man role or trading him before the deadline seems like the prudent move given the team's timeline and personnel. Either way Vassell starts playing more. Also-the McDermott signing looks awful and he's as pointless as Forbes eating up minutes. He should be traded to a contender mid-season. Guys like Vassell, Jone and Primo s/b getting those minutes.

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    Just unleash him already. Fck it ! let murray/vassell &primo suave run wild

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    I don’t really even care about him starting. He needs more touches, though, and that might actually be better accomplished coming off the bench. Dejounte needs to pull his head out of his ass, and start hunting him for buckets, and assists for himself.

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