Woj: Zach Collins Agrees to 3-Yr, $22M Deal with Spurs

[Ariel]

I don't know that Portland's medical staff is the same from 10/15 years back (2006/2007 onwards). No matter how you look at it, they had a major role in the franchise's fate: they either failed to properly assess serious conditions (Oden, Roy), they couldn't properly manage them, or both. Their recent track record isn't much better, given Zach Collins' case (he regains his health as soon as he's treated by a different staff and leaves the franchise), and also Gary Payton II (misdiagnosed and forced to play through an injury requiring significant time off). The US is probably the Mecca of sports medicine, and mismanaging their stars can cost a franchise (valued at a few billion dollars) hundreds of millions of dollars or more. If I'm Portland's FO, I put together a short list of the 5 most reputable professionals in the area, and write a blank check. Pay whatever is necessary, it'll be worth it.

[DPG21920]

Ya - meant with DDR back. No Collins or No DDR then it’s definitely less although I think DDR may not be as big of a loss in the win column as people think with Murray/White/Lonnie/Devin/Keldon absorbing his net negative minutes.

This is typical Spurs. Not good enough to celebrate but not bad enough to be a real landmine and this year doesn’t matter. Eating only 3.7M next year is no biggie if needed but still. This is where the FO has been; nothing that gives you confidence but avoids making you completely hate them

How true the bold turned out lol…I was good with Zach once contract details came out. But Im legit shocked at how productive hes been. Far exceeded the potential upside I thought may exist

[Atl Spur]

The first 10 pages of this thread

Classic! Amnesia is a real condition

[Atl Spur]

Atl Spur makes any of those posters look like the “Edgelord” posters. Also my boy Dex and Sugus are not that bad.

Lol….I need to make a Thank You video for your dumb ass!

[InRareForm]

Lol entertaining to read the first 10 pages

[spurraider21]

Lol entertaining to read the first 10 pages

oh yeah. i thought we were getting a completely broken player. we kinda did, but spurs were incredibly patient with his rehab and the results have been better than i think anybody, including the team, expected

if he can maintain anything resembling this recent level of play for the next year, will be a very interesting decision if they want to extend/re-sign him, or if they will just sell high in the trade market. his defense and propensity to foul is still a real issue if trying to project how well he would look as a starter on a "good" team

[timtonymanu]

Lol….I need to make a Thank You video for your dumb ass!

Is that what you said to Primo when he flashed you?

[Atl Spur]

Is that what you said to Primo when he flashed you?

Be humble or you will be humbled…… let’s not make this a routine thing bud!

[Ariel]

I could have sworn I already saw this play out... again... and again...

[GAustex]

Be humble or you will be humbled…… let’s not make this a routine thing bud!

Miss Cleo getting all sparky cause one of his ‘boys’ finally did something on the worst team in the league.

Girl don’t be getting out of your lane. You have missed epically for your infatuation over the pervert.

Tell again of the future Miss Cleo
Tell us of Langford and your boy Primo

[RC_Drunkford]

I‘m curious what his defensive metrics are since he started. That‘s really where he needs to improve. Offensively he has a complete skillset which is rare for a center. I love how he‘s been bullying players in the post lately

[Atl Spur]

I could have sworn I already saw this play out... again... and again...

And you will until dudes like him quit being little broads

[spurraider21]

I‘m curious what his defensive metrics are since he started. That‘s really where he needs to improve. Offensively he has a complete skillset which is rare for a center. I love how he‘s been bullying players in the post lately

he is what he is on defense. hes just ok. not an imposing presence, but mobile enough to have some impact that way. and he's ok on the boards. biggest area of emphasis for him on defense is just avoiding dumb fouls. over the course of the season, his fouls/36 is the highest of his career (over 5). tho in 7 games in march, despite averaging over 29 minutes per game, hes only been committing 2.7 fouls per game. thats the lowest of any monthly average this year, despite by far being the most minutes per game

[timtonymanu]

Be humble or you will be humbled…… let’s not make this a routine thing bud!

Shut up got. How’s that for humble?

[GAustex]

Miss Cleo is on her period again

[Cabrito]

Collins is becoming what we hoped Luka could become when he was drafted.

[Ice009]

I don't know that Portland's medical staff is the same from 10/15 years back (2006/2007 onwards). No matter how you look at it, they had a major role in the franchise's fate: they either failed to properly assess serious conditions (Oden, Roy), they couldn't properly manage them, or both. Their recent track record isn't much better, given Zach Collins' case (he regains his health as soon as he's treated by a different staff and leaves the franchise), and also Gary Payton II (misdiagnosed and forced to play through an injury requiring significant time off). The US is probably the Mecca of sports medicine, and mismanaging their stars can cost a franchise (valued at a few billion dollars) hundreds of millions of dollars or more. If I'm Portland's FO, I put together a short list of the 5 most reputable professionals in the area, and write a blank check. Pay whatever is necessary, it'll be worth it.

This is pretty much what I mean. I assume they don't have the same medical staff they had 10+ years ago, but they still seem to be making similar mistakes and mismanaging treatments and misdiagnosing injuries/conditions. Is Portland just being cheap and not paying for the top, top medical staff, or is it simply just bad luck? I don't know what it is, but it still appears to be going on. I forgot about the Gary Payton II situation as well (I do remember seeing it mentioned earlier in the season after he was traded back to the Warriors), so that is yet another recent screw up on their part. They can't be this incompetent, can they? It must just be bad luck as they would surely have a good credentialed medical staff by now, wouldn't they? It's amazing to me that this seems to keep happening more often that not for them.

[Atl Spur]

Shut up got. How’s that for humble?

Wow! Poor you. I’m done… don’t want you to totally lose your on a message board.

[TimDunkem]

^Yes because you totally didn't lose your responding to everyone who doubted one of your takes - which are typically nothing more than homer, FO slurping drivel. Congrats. The sun shined on your dog ass for once.

[TimDunkem]

Can you take it like you can dish it, boy? Here's for you to own up to yet another terrible take...

Congrats. You finally got something right. It's a big day for you.

[Atl Spur]

^Yes because you totally didn't lose your responding to everyone who doubted one of your takes - which are typically nothing more than homer, FO slurping drivel. Congrats. The sun shined on your dog ass for once.

Are my takes that simple……let’s pull some shall we? You are not smart nor witty so stay in your place

[couchman]

I love going back and seeing how totally wrong the OP was.
I get it, we all have bad takes sometimes, but hating on both Collins and Markkanen in the same post is high level

[GAustex]

Are my takes that simple……let’s pull some shall we? You are not smart nor witty so stay in your place

Miss Cleo!
You taint PATFO taint licker
Tell of the future
Tell us again of your boy Primo the pervert
And Langford too
Tell us you seer you you

[Atl Spur]

I love going back and seeing how totally wrong the OP was.
I get it, we all have bad takes sometimes, but hating on both Collins and Markkanen in the same post is high level

Respect! Everyone gets it wrong ……. But face can’t bring himself to admit it!

[spurraider21]

I love going back and seeing how totally wrong the OP was.
I get it, we all have bad takes sometimes, but hating on both Collins and Markkanen in the same post is high level

part of the frustration was at that time, we still had DeJounte/White and the thought was we'd be trying to build a team with them in mind. john collins was on most people's wish list, and instead we grabbed a broken center who wouldnt be able to contribute that year on a relatively rich deal given his production to date + injury history. but a big part of why the spurs brought along zollins was that they got him on a 3 year deal with little guarantees, such that they knew they were playing the long game with him. its paid off, especially when factoring in that we blew it up following that offseason