Ed's talking about -now- the year after the Tank for Wemby.
You're comparing the year before the Spurs acquired Timmy.
Ed's question 100 legit and wonder if any of the local media pussies would pose it to Pop.
Interestingly though, Pop won something like 32% of his games when he took over from Hill, who’d only won 20% of his up to that point in the season.
I think I’d be satisfied with this team “tanking” at a 32% win rate. This group is a whole different level of bad than even the Robinson-less Spurs were in ‘96-‘97.
Popped won 26% after the coup.
Which, any coach should have been tanking that year for Duncan and Pop most certainly did.
I think I addressed Chopper's point in the last half of my post.
I'll do a blitz to the local media -expecting absolutely none of them to question Pop. Most probably will not respond to me.
However i will say the last time i did this a few did respond. They were all total sniffers but at least a few responded.
You’re right, 27%. I was going off memory. I knew he won at a slightly higher clip than Hill did, but pretty close.
Certainly better than this bunch…that’s tanking for what exactly? A point guard who will take 4 years to develop?
European players have more advanced skills. Won’t take as long to develop.
Pop has moved from being the guy that is hard on individual players to a coach that instead focuses on team play only. He believes in playing by a team more than playing around an individual player. even when pop misses a game he doesn't have any one coach take charge he elects to have the team coached by committee.
That way of team first thinking worked when you had a roster of talented players but when you have one generational player and a bunch of role players you need to focus things around your generational player a bit more than he has.
How much of this is the ownership balking at paying anyone? Surely Pop would like to have more talent on the team. Who's making the decision to throw this season in the tank?
Talent ain't the problem.
When it comes to not getting Victor the ball I agree. The team doesn't shoot well. It feels like they are all end of the bench players other than DV and Victor.
Yesterday´s game was the most brutal, visceral, honest, stubborn, unbreakable demonstration that Pop needs to go.
The headless chicken Spurs´ BB sucks farty ass, worse than free jazz because there is no order and whats the point of everyone hero ballin´ except Wemby when most of those players will be gone over the next seasons?
When you have a talent like that you feed him the ball and then retool the team around him, other rooks were Lebron, Pau Gasol, Kevin Love, Anthony Davis, Arenas, Doncic, Carmelo and a trillion more, you name it.
This is just wasted time, Pop.
Yeah. Wasted time is the best way to describe this season up to this point. The players not only didn’t improve, they seemed to have gotten worse. Sochan at PG was a gigantic waste of time and seemed to have destroyed whatever improvements he showed late last season, Vassell is becoming a gigantic ballhog, Tre jones regressed as being a PG, Collins was no where close to what he was later last season. The only players who improved were wemby and maybe keldon.
It’s been two months and the players still make the same stupid defensive mistakes every game with no consequences. What is going on here?
its bigger than basketball
The team doesn't shoot well because their offense doesn't generate good shots. It feels like they are end of the bench players because they are young guys being put out there with no plan, no accountability and no strategy
And not much in the talent area. They aren't super athletic, they don't shoot particularly well. They cannot set good screens, they have terrible court vision.
I honestly think Pop would be content turning Wemby into a roll player.
what would things look like if we didnt hit the 14% lottery last year?
We'd have a 39-page thread on how well Amen Thompson is doing in Austin and wondering what it will take for Pop to give him some run with the big squad.
Still have the Sochan PG experiment and Scoot Henderson would be playing PF.
In the last 2 games:
-A player subbing himself into the game
-A player praising the obvious starting lineup choice the coach has been avoiding all season
-A player scratching the last play of the game to draw up his own while the head coach is off meditating somewhere
1996 GM Greg Popovich would fire 1996 Head Coach Bob Hill for "losing the team" if this happened then
It's hard to grade Pop right now. It's clear the team is finally starting to get better. We're seeing a lot of legit defense played now. They're running plays for various guys. Wemby is getting high-quality touches. I feel much better about the players' ability to improve without major intervention now than I did a month ago. But you also have to wonder about if Wemby is starting to cash-out or something. I'm not too worried about him subbing himself back in -- Duncan did that. And we have no idea if Victor did the right thing but tearing up that play -- seeing as the one they ran didn't work. For all we know, Wemby ran up to console Jones because it was Victor's idea to give him the shot. So there are legit reasons to wonder if players are starting to rebel against Pop ... except on the court it really looks like they're starting to click with him.
Point Ausar tbh
I don't know why you nerds are crying about Pop not drawing up the final play, I've been calling for that for years. His end of game plays are horrible
Is Pop basically inviting players to "figure things out" to the extent of calling their own plays? Very weird whatever Pop is doing. "I'm not a helicopter parent, you guys figure it out!" Such a bizarre season.
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