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Steven Hunter would be nice, he's a really good rebounder.
If the Spurs don't trade EWill's expiring contract for ANYONE- that's way irresponsible.
Two big men they should look at: Hunter or J. Smith from the Sixers.
Philly's way over the cap and Hunter's still got 3 yrs. left after this one. They need to clear cap space.
Oberto, Vaughn, and a future pick for Hunter
Oberto and Vaughn have expiring contracts.
EWill for a backup PG. At this point, anyone's better than Beno.
As for a SF. There's nothing out there right now. Have to live with what they got.
This summer, there's gonna be some good SFs available.
Steven Hunter would be nice, he's a really good rebounder.
I'll propose it to RC tomorrow. I really want Banks to work out, but dammit, you gotta show me something besides 0-4 againt Minnesota on the road. Bonner can shoot (I actually signed him on my Suns franchise on xbox), and Williams will expire/do as much as Jumaine Jones will.
I'D PREFER Q OVER CRAWFORD HE HAS NO STRUCTURE AND 0 D
The difference between those two, both in talent and trade value, is HUGE (think Grand Canyon-sized gap). The Spurs FO would be nuts to pull off the trade including Balkman, but your Lee + Crawford deal isn't bad...almost feasible.
Crawford is more talented, but he has to be put in check and controlled better. He seemed to adjust the best to Larry Brown's authoritative style and showed signs that he could actually be a scorer, not just a shooter. He also has less of an injury history.
Having said all that, I think Isaiah is operating under the assumption that his fate is tied to the team he has assembled. If he ultimately gets the axe, look for Dolan to start selling off some of the pieces, but until then I doubt the Knicks do much of anything.
yeah, he's the biggest risk, so I'm gonna need some compensation....say a swap of the Spurs first rounder for the Suns first rounder owed by the Cavs (8-10 spot improvement)...
How 'bout it, let's make a deal!
has there ever been a midseason/deadline trade, between the 2nd best and 3rd best team of the same conference?
I really can't see any chance, that something like this would happen. contending teams make trades to improve their teams and why should for example the Suns have any interest in helping the Spurs to improve.
(even if such a moves helps them to save money. they are not in cost reduction mode, they are in le winning mode)
Agreed. The Chucky Atkins deal is the most likely for exactly that reason.
yes. don't know if you read the get Gasol thread.
( http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/show...04#post1423504)
Bruno reported an interesting observation: West and Paxon were in France together yesterday and visited the Euroleague game of Pau.
(I commented, that they might have scouted another player, likely Jonas Maciulis, but who knows)
so we could speculate, that they are in talks about the big Gasol trade again and Spurs are included in such talks and are offering the Mahinmi rights (to which team?), for either a Grizzlies or a Bulls player.
quite a reach, but fun to think about a bit.
Anybody notice how Duhon has been benched and played very little in the last stretch of games? Does anyone know what's going on there...coach/player fued?
If so, then there would be no better time to snag him than now...
Tie in the Paxson sighting at a Pau Orthez game and you get this:
Duhon + Khryapa for Williams + Beno + Rights to Mahinmi
He can't hit a shot since mid december.
No, I'm no ready to give up a good prospect like Mahinmi for two very average players.
He sucks? My guess.
Beno+Williams+Oberto for Atkins+Swift.
I don't think that tey would accept this offer.Beno+Williams+Oberto for Atkins+Swift.
Swift's ability and potential are intriguing, but he has yet to fully utilize that ability and realize that potential.Beno+Williams+Oberto for Atkins+Swift.
Last year in Houston, he had the perfect opportunity to secure a starting spot alongside Yao, but he failed to beat out an over-the-hill Juwan Howard. This year he's being outplayed by a younger version of himself in Hakim Warrick. The basic knock on him is low bbiq and lack of work ethic.
All that aside, what makes this deal most unlikely is the $5M+ he's owed until 2009, a sticking point with Spurs FO.
While it seems likely the Grizzlies will move him (why have two players with duplicate skill sets?), I'm not sure the Spurs FO would take him....not sure I would either.
I guess it's public knowledge that Jerry West likes Oberto as a player, so there's already interest there.
Secondly, the Grizz have two players (Warrick and Swift) with similar skill sets and the cheaper one is outplaying the more expensive one.
Lastly, the Grizz could seriously be in salary dump mode to get further under the cap for this summer.
So I think the Grizzlies have enough motivation to pull this off, but again, I don't think the Spurs will be players if that acquisition takes place.
What about James Posey? I just heard that since the Heat got Jones, they are looking to move Posey. He would be an absolutely great fit for our team
I am also intrigued by the idea of Chris Duhon. He might be Scott Skile's Beno Udrih, but he also doesn't force up as many shots and actually plays defense even when his offense stagnates. I think he's a good bet to rebound with a change of scenery.
Here's an idea involvin 3 teams
San Antonio Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Eric Williams
6-8 SF from Providence
2.4 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 5.3 minutes
Beno Udrih
6-3 PG from Slovenia (Foreign)
5.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 14.5 minutes
Incoming
Chris Duhon
6-1 PG from Duke
6.4 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 4.2 apg in 24.6 minutes
Viktor Khryapa
6-9 SF from Ukraine (Foreign)
2.2 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.9 apg in 7.8 minutes
Change in team outlook: +1.1 ppg, +2.2 rpg, and +2.7 apg.
Memphis Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Pau Gasol
7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign)
19.9 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 2.9 apg in 33.0 minutes
Incoming
Eric Williams
6-8 SF from Providence
2.4 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 0.4 apg in 5.3 minutes
P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
5.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 17.9 minutes
Change in team outlook: -12.5 ppg, -3.0 rpg, and -2.0 apg.
New York's #1 Pick for 2007.
Chicago Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
P.J. Brown
6-11 PF from Louisiana Tech
5.0 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.5 apg in 17.9 minutes
Chris Duhon
6-1 PG from Duke
6.4 ppg, 2.3 rpg, 4.2 apg in 24.6 minutes
Viktor Khryapa
6-9 SF from Ukraine (Foreign)
2.2 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.9 apg in 7.8 minutes
Incoming
Beno Udrih
6-3 PG from Slovenia (Foreign)
5.1 ppg, 1.2 rpg, 2.0 apg in 14.5 minutes
Pau Gasol
7-0 PF from Spain (Foreign)
19.9 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 2.9 apg in 33.0 minutes
Change in team outlook: +11.4 ppg, +0.8 rpg, and -0.7 apg.
Successful Scenario
Due to San Antonio, Memphis, and Chicago being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. San Antonio, Memphis, and Chicago had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
Memphis gets its a high pick and salary relief. The Spurs get two players who fit in the 2008 plan and fits needs and Chicago gets its inside scorer.
Pop and the Spurs organisation sucks, so I think there will be no trades.
What i wouldn't give right now for Stephen Jackson and a backup point guard
We can release Oberto and sign Kevin Willis.
We need a backup point gueard NOW. I mean tomorrow, asap, ing get rid of these two worthless mother ers, I cant take it anymore. If I have two watch one more game with Beno and Vaughn Im going to drown myself in the San Antonio river. Atkins, Atkins, Atkins, RIGHT ING NOW!
He tore it up on Pro's vs. Joe's
I know that he's got 45 or 44 years but he is better than Oberto in my opinion.
, at least he can grab rebounds
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