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    "make a trade"

    the Spurs are so far away from good basketball that one new (gotta be great) player won't make ANY difference. The new player won't know the Spurs system so very probably wouldn't be effectve (enough) to be of season-reversing help.

    a Feb trade is ing fool's gold.

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    Exactly. They mailed it in today. Are you scared that this team will come apart and play 500 ball for the rest of the year because I think they might.
    They have too much pride for that they will finish i think 3 or 4 and bow out early in the playoffs unless a miracle occurs.

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    Too much Pride? They've been playing .500 ball for a month and a half now. Where is the pride?

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    Im not able to hear the postgame comments, but I can bet what they say. Seems like they say the same thing after every loss. Comments like:

    'Miami played good ball today, Wade is a great player . . .'

    'We just made to many mistakes . . .'

    I am really tired of hearing the same crap said after every game.

    I think they have no desire and passion when they play.
    Pop broke out the "soft" speech in his pregame interview.

    Maybe he needs to break out a "pussy" speech.

    Of course, some of that would have to be directed at the front office.

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    Good points, I honestly feel (and this is just a gut feeling) Duncan and Parker have gotten increasingly frustrated since that horrible Jazz game. They've both been playing well all season long and when they do give it their all in a game, no one else seems to step up outside out big3 and we get a Loss.
    True, the way they looked after that game was the worst I've seen them after a loss.

    But if that's the case, they need to sack up and regroup.

    This team needs a trade but they probably aren't going to get it. So what has to happen is Manu, Tony and Tim need to bring their A game every single night. The Magic game, Manu was horrible. Today Tim sucked and Tony was inconsistent. They all have to get on the same page.

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    we are witnessing a slow decline.

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    One of the main problems is that we rarely have a game where everyone plays well together on the same night. It's always like 2 guys alone and everyone else is asleep.

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    Can you really blame them though? Yeah, we're pissed at the Euro's they've gotten that have sucked, but look at Manu and Tony. Also, don't forget they drafted Girecek (sp?), Barbosa, and they wanted to go after Kristic too. So yeah, it sucks that they keep looking overseas, but when you find something that works you keep going to it.

    How long ago was Manu? That's the last time the Spurs got someone useful from the draft...that was over 4 years ago. So where are they finding newer, younger talent from all these years? No where, that's why they're in the situation they're in right now.

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    we are witnessing a slow decline.
    It shouldn't be happening this fast. Not with the big three we have. It's the result of the FO trying to save money.

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    yeah, i can't say that i've seen him shoot a lot of clutch game winners but he doesn't need to because he's been racking those points up in the fourth quarter...i hope the mavs remember this next week, watching this game made me freak out a *little* bit
    next week will be a kick ass game

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    BTW, the Bowen regression on offense has really hurt this team. Over the past few years that has become something they count on. When Bowen started adding the mid range moves to his game he actually became a great offensive threat in the Spurs O. Now he can't even hit his corner 3s.

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    This team needs a trade but they probably aren't going to get it. So what has to happen is Manu, Tony and Tim need to bring their A game every single night.
    That's asking for way too much. They're going to have their off nights, while the rest of the bunch continue to struggle. We can't ask for 3 guys to make everything right. I know it's a very obvious statement but it's actually happening and it's pissing everyone off.

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    a Feb trade is ing fool's gold.

    sad but mostly true. the only beneficial late trade i can think of lately was when the pistons got rasheed wallace.

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    Exactly. They mailed it in today. Are you scared that this team will come apart and play 500 ball for the rest of the year because I think they might.
    Nah, I'm not quite to that point yet. The Spurs usually figure these things out to where they can put up a respectable regular season record.

    As far as the playoffs, though, this team as it's composed isn't going to win sh!t. The talent around the big three is horrid and the big three don't even bring it each night. Parker lost points in my book for coming out today and playing like he didn't care to start off the game, Duncan has had more mental errors this year than any other year and I don't think Manu can sustain playing at the 2005 level anymore.

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    Another pathetic rebounding game

    We can easily loss in the 1st round this season
    You can't win games without rebounding and D... which we don't have.

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    How long ago was Manu? That's the last time the Spurs got someone useful from the draft...that was over 4 years ago. So where are they finding newer, younger talent from all these years? No where, that's why they're in the situation they're in right now.
    How many picks have they traded in that time 1p1? 3 first rounders! The only one they kept was the Beno pick. And yeah, Beno sucks righ tnow but they were going after Nelson who was a domestic pick that was taken before they had a chance to grab him. Plus I think Beno's suckage is more on him than on any lack of talent.

    Don't complain about what they do with their 2nd round picks. 2nd round picks are crapshoots at best.

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    How long ago was Manu? That's the last time the Spurs got someone useful from the draft...that was over 4 years ago. So where are they finding newer, younger talent from all these years? No where, that's why they're in the situation they're in right now.
    Actually, Parker is arguably the last productive draft pick (2001). Manu was chosen in 1999.

    I guess you could argue that the Spurs got a positive out of their 2002 draft pick by trading Salmons to Philly for Speedy Claxton, too.

    Still, the front office's notion that the Spurs haven't really needed any young players infused into the roster and that draft picks are better used on Euro projects has now raised its ugly head as a shortsighted decision.

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    True, the way they looked after that game was the worst I've seen them after a loss.

    But if that's the case, they need to sack up and regroup.

    This team needs a trade but they probably aren't going to get it. So what has to happen is Manu, Tony and Tim need to bring their A game every single night. The Magic game, Manu was horrible. Today Tim sucked and Tony was inconsistent. They all have to get on the same page.
    You're right, but even if Parker, Manu, and Tim all bring their A game, Spurs are still losing. They're basically playing 3 on 5 right now and you can't have that. Also, that still doesn't help them on the defensive end where they just can seem to get any stops in the 4th quarter when they need to. Manu/Parker/Duncan can bring their A games and score at will every game....but it's not going to help the team get many more win's, IMO. I think they realize that and are getting increasingly frustrated. I saw Parker scream at Elson a lot today telling him where to get in position and set the screen.

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    Another pathetic rebounding game

    We can easily loss in the 1st round this season
    and you will...

    1st round exit in the horizon

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    Ridding themselves of Barbosa and last year's pick hurt.
    Barbosa (or JHoward), David Lee, and Daniel Gibson (or Paul Millsap) would help out a lot right about now...

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    BTW, the Bowen regression on offense has really hurt this team. Over the past few years that has become something they count on. When Bowen started adding the mid range moves to his game he actually became a great offensive threat in the Spurs O. Now he can't even hit his corner 3s.
    He cost us the Mavs game AND the Jazz game

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    BTW, the Bowen regression on offense has really hurt this team. Over the past few years that has become something they count on. When Bowen started adding the mid range moves to his game he actually became a great offensive threat in the Spurs O. Now he can't even hit his corner 3s.
    Bowen is in a shooting slump but I think it has very little to do with the Spurs lack of success lately.

    They are losing games because opponents are shooting over 50% against them and have double-digit rebounding advantages.

    They aren't losing because Bowen is averaging 4 points a game lately instead of 7.

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    btw anybody notice timmy's favorite 5 spurs story at halftime? his favorite 5 were something like manu, tony, malik, daniels and robinson. its like they ripped the soul out of this team by getting rid of malik.

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    next week will be a kick ass game
    i'm looking forward to it, hopefully it will be the mavericks doing the kicking! i did sell my tickets though for a HUGE sum of money because i needed to make the downpayment on my playoffs tix so i'll have to make do with my tv...but at least the beer's cheaper!

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    Actually, Parker is arguably the last productive draft pick (2001). Manu was chosen in 1999.
    You're right. But my point still stands...it's so frustrating. For all the talk about how great the Spurs front office is at IDing great talent overseas....their last one was almost 6 years ago. Since then they have gotten almost no quality from the draft directly.

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