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I definitly want the SPurs to resign Kurt Thomas. Infact I wished he played more in the Laker series, he played well with the minutes he was given in Game 5. (LOL @ Chumpdumpers sig)
while we're still arguing on who should we get for this offseason, what should we do with our current (developing) players?
Ime Udoka: it's been a nice first year for him, but i think everybody forgot that because he played well. so, for the next year, we should expect an increase in his overall performance. over the offseason, Ime should focus on training his quickness and speed. Strength-wise, he's all what we'd hope he would be (for an undersized forward). but quicker guards (like kobe) are still making him pay. it would be nice if he got faster and quicker over the offseason.
Matt Bonner: he's still young, he's got a three-point shot. he hustles. he rebounds. maybe he should do a reverse-David West and slim down. Maybe then he'd run faster or quicker. Playing him at the 4 spot isn't what we need now, but playing at the 3 spot might be the way out of the doghouse for him. after all, we play him as a perimeter player right? it'd be faster for him to slim down than to develop a better low-post game.
DerMarr Johnson: it would be nice if he did become SJax '03. but that DWI just seems to be a sign of bad things to come. for now, we'd better wait for the Summer League so we can better assess on his level of development.
Ian Mahinmi: An offseason spent in the US Virgin Islands would be profitable for everybody involved. Tim would spend less time staring at the wall waiting for the 09 season (joke) and Ian just might pick up a thing or two. maybe half the offseason with Tim and the other half spent with DRob?
Kurt Thomas: for half a season spent with the Spurs, he definitely made an impact. we still expect more from him next season (if there is one).
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everybody seems sold on JR Smith.
now that Kerr is the Suns GM, maybe we could raid the Suns' roster for some spare parts? (maybe that's why he accepted that job. you never know, right?)
I definitly want the SPurs to resign Kurt Thomas. Infact I wished he played more in the Laker series, he played well with the minutes he was given in Game 5. (LOL @ Chumpdumpers sig)
I was hearing when D'Antoni became the Knicks head coach that David Lee was out. Lee is a guy I'd really like on the Spurs. He is young, good for 10+ boards, high FG%, score inside, and put back, good athleticism, runs the floor pretty well, and also is sort of a bruiser. His outside game is lacking, but there is room for development. Any chance we can possibly trade for him? He's looking to make around ~4 million in the next two years.
Last edited by E20; 06-01-2008 at 10:39 PM.
Bonner for Lee. I'm sure the Spurs could convince D'Antoni Bonner is a perfect fit for his run n gun offense. Just imagine it D'Antoni...Marbury to Bonner! Marbury to Bonner!
What would make sense is something like Bonner + 2nd rounder in a sign and trade for Matt Barnes. A big man who shoots the 3? Nellie is listening already.
There is a chance that Matt Barnes might not even be in the GS picture according to some local newspapers here. It said that they were looking to keep the core relatively young (Predicted major signings are Ellis, Biedrins, Azubuike, maybe Davis), Barnes turns 29 this year.
Right. I doubt they would want to take back a contract for him, especially if it's just a reserve big. But you never know. Big men who shoot don't come along all the time, and in Nellie's O, he'd fit in.
Being able to pull off a sign and trade for someone like Barnes keeps your MLE free to go after a JR Smith or a Pargo.
Since he's only averaged about 6 boards per game, and about 7.5 per 40 minutes - that's probably an overstatement.
Bring back Finley and Horry? Please LJ, NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
PG - TP Barry ?
SG - ? Manu Barry
SF - Bowen Udoka ?
PF - Duncan Thomas Mahinmi
C - ? Oberto Thomas
So, who do we fill the holes with?
PG, I don't know. As a centre and back-to-the-basket player I've never been a great judge of PGs, so I'll leave that one to others who know more. It seems to make more sense to sign a veteran rather than draft a youngster for backup PG though, given how long it takes to learn the position. Because he runs the motion offense so beautifully with the second unit, I'd be happy to use Barry as TP's backup, but given his age I just don't see Pop doing it.
Any of Azubiuke/Childress/Delfino/JJones would be a great acquisition for the vacant swing role, and if you want a sixth guy I'd try and get Mo Evans for cheap - he's a scorer with a nice midrange game... I've always considered him under-rated. I like Gomes, but he duplicates a lot of what Udoka does, and he's not a great athlete. I think this team desperately needs more athletes, not more ground-bound guys.
As for big men, I think the FO would be idiotic to part with KT at this point. The guy slotted straight in with almost no prep, so I imagine he'll be better with a pre-season under his belt, and he's a good stop-gap on the boards and post-D when Timmy sits. If he'll re-sign for a reasonable figure you've got to make that happen. Oberto didn't have a great season and it's about time he moved on, although I'm sure he'll be here next season to finish out his contract. Bonner is probably gone (give Ryan Bowen a go, anyone? Bostjan Nachbar? Pop seems to like to have a PF with 3 range around. The guy I'd love is Linas Kleiza, but that's not happening). Ian had better be ready for some minutes, and Splitter should check his head out. Sounds crazy, but for the last big, maybe Chris Andersen? I have a feeling he's exactly the sort of guy who might blossom in the stability of the Spurs organisation... edit - he's 30, so I take that back. We need more youth. Hmmmmm...
It sure is a barren FA list this offseason...
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What's Jumaine Jones up to these days?
...about 5 to 10 depending on good behavior...
this is the important off-season that the spurs have in some time, we will need a brilliant decisions from R. C. Buford (somthing that wont happened in a while i most say) the little pieces that we will bring will define if we will be a contender.
in my dreams we convince Splitter to come over, we take Brandon Rush in the draft, we trad Bonner for Charlie Bell (milwaukee will agree because bell is unhappy there and they will get a shorter contract in bonner contract), we sign Ryan Gomes in free agency (if he want i even give him the MLE, yes he that good), we resign Kurt Thomas, resign Finly on the vet minimum.
and the roster is:
Parker, Charlie Bell, Brent Barry
Ginobili, Brandon Rush, Michael Finley
Bowen, Ryan Gomes, Udoka
Duncan, Oberto, Mahinmi
Splitter, Kurt Thomas
Now, now, now.
Is that any way to treat your guests?
Denver said the Lakers couldn't get by the superior defense of the Jazz.
Utah said the Lakers couldn't get by the experience and heart of the Champions.
And now you say we'll get "destroyed in the Finals."
The shame you must feel.
You should be honored that lakers fans would still come here. After all, your organization has peaked, and is on the decline. The Lakers, however, are just getting liftoff!
Hopefully staying far away from the Spurs.
Bell is a great player. He impressed here, in Spain, three years ago. He scored 30+ points in 15 games, he was a machine. Now he's unhappy in Milwaukee, fans booed him in many games; but he's a good defender and he can score 8-10 points.
If we sign him, I'll be very happy, he's a nice guy.
Could the Spurs in any way trade for Yi Jianlin?
I know some on here have been interested in Villanueva, and that wouldn't bother me at all, but Yi and Duncan would make a pretty big and long frontcourt. Jianlin is listed at 7-0, is still young. Had a really inconsistent rookie year and was/is injured a bit (all of which could help the Spurs get him, who knows), but I think he'll be a good player. Great, I don't know, but next to Duncan and with the international-friendly Spurs, he could develop. He may not be as NBA-ready as Villanueva, or as much as a "scorer", but I could see him being more of a defensive player (especially on help-defense) than Charlie could ever be with the Spurs. In 66 games, Yi blocked 56 shots, half as many as Villanueva in his two and half seasons in the NBA (110). In terms of this season, that's bout as many blocks as G. Wallace, K. Thomas, McDyess, and Nesterovic had - and significanty more than, say, Jamison, Wilcox, Bargnani, Moore, Okur, etc. Defense aside, Jianlin has pretty well-rounded offensive game. He can shoot midrange, he can put the ball on the floor well for his size, hit a three every now and then, and he's 80%+ from the line.... If we could land Yi Jianlin, Maurice Williams, and maybe Desmond Mason in a deal sending Parker to the Bucks, I'm not sure I would refuse. The disparity between Parker and Williams isn't that huge (imo). Same age, both are 6 apg kind of players, both can score and are efficient from the field. Parker much better penetrator/finisher, but Williams' much better shooter (1.4 tpg) and from the line (85%). If we are going to trade anybody, we should sell Parker high while he still has Finals-MVP buzz, and keep Ginobili (imo). And trade for players with high ceilings.
what do you guys think about steve francis? if he is motivated to play for a champ contender team like spurs, he might be a great asset to help spurs to score some points when parker is on the bench.
I think Ryan Gomes is a very good option. He can play either forward position, he scores, he rebounds... he has overachieved in the league since being drafted in the 2nd round three years ago... he could easily give the Spurs 30 minutes a game, and is by all accounts a good teammate-- he won't demand the ball or get upset about the number of shots he gets a game, but would be a perfect 4th scoring option behind the Big 3. I see him as a Battier-type glue guy, but with more points and more rebounds.
So..is corey maggeutte (spelling..?) completely out of our grasp?
He'd be a good asset.
I also like the idea about getting Yi, but, definetly not for tony parker..comparing him to Maurice Williams is like comparing bonner to david west (not really, but you get my point). Tony is still developping and getting better every year, so why trade him?
If we did have to give away one of our big 3, sadly it would be manu, just because his game is so dependent on athleticism, and he aint getting younger.
Azuibuike would be a good fit, hes athletic as ..
We need some young energetic guys..I think vaughn is fine as the 3rd string pg, maybe having Brent play PG.
I'd love to see someone with timmy in the paint as well, maybe like an andris biedrins or something...?
also..I heard some rumors about vassilis Spanolious (spelling), I heard he would like to play with the Spurs, and he's a pretty young SG/PG, (reminds me of vujacic)
The trade you propose is no way trading Parker High.
I am ok in getting Yi Jianlian if this gives Holt extra cash to go over the luxury tax, but that is all the use i see in YI, also with Pop around Yi will be spending all the year on the bench cause he canīt defend any over the average power forwards.
Anyway i donīt see Milwaukee trading Yi for an equal talent player, they will demand something ridiculous unless he goes vocal on wanting a trade.
About trading TP, if you trade him you have to be sure you get a good PG and a good center or pf AT LEAST, because is not like you are getting CP3 for TP.
If that PG is Mo Williams we should at least ask for Bogut.
I like Villanueva's game. He's not a definite starter, but he's a rotation player for sure. He comes with an inexpensive contract and can score in bunches with some range on his jump shot, given his size. I'd be fine with Villanueva, but I don't see a lot of scenarios where a trade would make sense.
What about trading the rights to splitter to the blazers for the rights to rudy fernandez? http://youtube.com/watch?v=UzaRAZ_yNTQ
Not sure who that is? A little help please.......
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