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Or they watch Greece against Croatia for Olympic spot early this week...
Hey, I remembered Hill wrong.
But my memory wasn't all bad with the Spurs and 80%, they had Beno and Ian take first years at 80%
http://www.shamsports.com/2014/09/ho...ookie.html?m=1
Ian was a promise pick. Ian was such s secret promise that the Spurs had a code name for him in case they were overheard talking about him in public. He was stashed. He wasn't working out for teams. But he still took the 80%.
Or they watch Greece against Croatia for Olympic spot early this week...
Stokes is better than any of those euroscrubs
I'm pretty sure that I'm not saying anything about a contrived scenario such as you're stating. I will say, though, that LJC has more leverage than the Spurs do in that situation. If they need him to take less than 100 percent, then he'd have to agree and sign, because his hold is larger than that. If they were okay with giving him 100 percent, then the extra 20 doesn't matter, as he can sign after they use the cap space.
No. This scenario, where they are concerned with cap space, not dollars, has nothing to do with that. They aren't saving money out of their pocket by screwing LJC. They are saving money to give to other players. And the ownership just got a bigger e than the cap did, so they have the money if they ever did.The point was about how the Spurs had to operate in ways that other teams didn't have to in order to be successful, and finances play a role in that.
It depends. I don't think he'd pull a Saric, as he's just delaying a big payday (especially in today's climate). But even if he did, the CBA sets up the rookie scale as a guaranteed min for stashed first-rounders, not a cap. If they happen to earn better contracts overseas, that's the risk the Spurs took by not paying them for years. Stashed guys are already well behind their counterparts in the salary curve. Even a guy like Splitter would have made more money in his career had he come over right away.Do you think LJC and his agent would have accepted scale if he had exploded into a star?
Teams break their promises and, it usually hurts them. NO did it this year, and I'm sure they won't be able to make another one for a while. Again, this is an order of magnitude worse.Teams have broken draft promises before, I believe I heard Givony or another draft guy break it down on a podcast recently. I might try to find it.
Because it happened once in 651 iterations. That's a 0.15-percent rate. I'm not dismissing history; you're dismissing statistical reasonability. That's even worse than arguing the Spurs should cut Parker because Detroit cut Josh Smith.But about renouncements, yes, it did happen before. Why dismiss history?
Yeah, no. That's what happens to late-second guys like Thomas and Denmon. It's not what happens in promises. The team doesn't have leverage when they make a promise. LJC didn't stop working out with other teams because the Spurs strong-armed him into it. He and the team came to a mutual agreement, with him fulfilling his part by foregoing money that he was en led to and signing a long-term deal in France. And he pretty much stopped trying for anyone else (which is a usual part of promises), when he had the stock to get drafted by someone else.I think the Spurs tell agents and players that truth as it is at the time. That they like the player, but don't think that have room or a role for the player. If the player is fine not coming over, they can keep him on their board. But there's the risk that if the player pushes their luck, it could end badly for them. And if agents and players aren't comfortable with that, they can try to force their way out of the first round. Guys have done it before.
They didn't promise Capela, and he didn't promise to them (the Spurs promised to him, and how knows what he agreed to for them). If anything, that should show you that players have leverage most of the time. Deshaun Thomas and Jack McClinton forced their way into camp just fine. There wasn't a chance that either would be renounced. Look at Philly and McDaniels. There are too many examples of teams giving in to act like one more 20 years ago in the dawn of the rookie scale is "history"And sometimes players push their luck and win. The Rockets wanted Capela to stash himself to get more room in pursuit of Bosh. He refused. They then had 3 choices: sign, trade, or renounce. He was promising enough that they put up with it.
Just watched LJC's first game in SL and he just looks so thin and weak. I don't know what happened to him, but I'm really surprised that Spurs are going to sign him!
He'll likely be the 15th man on the roster, in other words, will rarely play, so why not sign someone dirt cheap and young for that position?
You know Brown will do Pop a solid.
Noel would be nice. Least amount of ego and the best sefender out of the three.
Sadly, the Spurs don't have much that we could offer (outside of our core players).
How about kyle? We can try the whole stretch 4 crap
So sign Christian wood. He's also young and would be cheap. But he can play basketball and make a shot.
I'm with you on Christian Wood. In the past he's had a bad at ude but if he's past that I believe he'll be the next Hassan Whiteside. Hassan had immaturity problems and still does but has mostly gotten past them. I think Wood will get past them too, I mean he's only 20.
Spurs trade what, 2014 pick 30 Anderson for 2013 Pick 6? Nice.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/re...ikely-partner/
Report: Thunder eyeing Westbrook trade, Celtics most likely partner
The Thunder could be trading Westbrook "sooner rather than later"
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http://www.si.com/nba/2016/07/13/okl...boston-celtics
Report: Russell Westbrook could be traded before season
That's a big scoop.
KD and Russ likely decided enough was enough and to part ways. Will be nice to see Russ in Boston. Will make the east conference interesting.
If Boston trades, they are going for broke this year hoping it will be enough to contend with Cavs since there is no guarantee Westbrook re-signs in Boston next year. My guess is that if it's true, I. Thomas is on the move again along with J Brown and some draft picks.
Spurs sure are biding their time with any more moves.
Another one bites the dust
I am okay with him not being signed. He always seemed like he plays at half speed for some reason. Not a huge fan.
I consider this a good thing. Didn't they already sign a center? Makes me wonder if Dieng is available.
Good point although Dieng wouldn't be cheap.
Or it's just insurance for Pekovic's annual 30 game season plus Garnett gives them nothing.
Yeah but they signed Aldrich and have Karl Anthony-Towns. I mean, they do have Dieng listed as Power Forward so maybe he won't play C
I would love to have Dieng. Almost too perfect. He is on Mills money, so I would want to get that done and trust Manu/Simmons/Murray/or some Summer league invite can hold the backup point duties.
T'Wolves now have: Towns, Dieng, Aldrich, Hill, Garnett, Benjinca, and Payne as full time bigs, plus they can go small with Muhammad. So they obviously need to get rid of at least one, probably two. You really shouldn't have more than 5 full time bigs.
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