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    He could have made the most money in San Antonio, so it doesn't make sense why he left...
    Kawhi could make the most money; that doesn’t go to Tio Dennis. A team like CLIPS or TOR giving him everything HE wants is what the angle is here.

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    Kawhi could make the most money; that doesn’t go to Tio Dennis. A team like CLIPS or TOR giving him everything HE wants is what the angle is here.
    Still he's losing a lot of money...

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    Still he's losing a lot of money...
    Kawhi is; Dennis stands to make more.

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    Kawhi is; Dennis stands to make more.
    Exactly, and for a re like Neph uncle Dennis is his pep pep figure.

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    I want him in TOR. Not only because I want every team that tried to strong arm SA to be punished, but because I would rather him be in the East, get paid more money and that TOR be rewarded for an incredible bold move where others failed.

    But IT IS NOT happening. He’s going to LAC and there is already a lot going on behind the scenes for years that will be proven right.

    Place your bets now while the value is still good.
    Stuff that will become public?

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    I want him in TOR. Not only because I want every team that tried to strong arm SA to be punished, but because I would rather him be in the East, get paid more money and that TOR be rewarded for an incredible bold move where others failed.

    But IT IS NOT happening. He’s going to LAC and there is already a lot going on behind the scenes for years that will be proven right.

    Place your bets now while the value is still good.
    That's already happening.

    This team doesn't even have a path to conceivable contention for the foreseeable future, so who cares where the balance of power lies? Why you'd care that that s bag gets the most money, is beyond me.

    It wasn't bold at all. It was one of the biggest miracles/gifts in recent sports history. Any president in that situation does that without thinking (operative words being that situation, so don't bother bringing up the majority of the league). He's had an incredible run of luck recently and anytime that happens, people make the mistake of thinking those involved are geniuses.

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    Kawhi is; Dennis stands to make more.
    Not more than what kawhi lose...

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    That's already happening.

    This team doesn't even have a path to conceivable contention for the foreseeable future, so who cares where the balance of power lies? Why you'd care that that s bag gets the most money, is beyond me.

    It wasn't bold at all. It was one of the biggest miracles/gifts in recent sports history. Any president in that situation does that without thinking (operative words being that situation, so don't bother bringing up the majority of the league). He's had an incredible run of luck recently and anytime that happens, people make the mistake of thinking those involved are geniuses.
    PHI didn’t act. BOS didnt act. So to me, it was bold.

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    Stuff that will become public?

    Doubtful. But it’s already stuff that has been discussed here. There is proof of Kawhi’s camp angling for LA even BEFORE the injury. Before the TP comments. A year before to be exact.

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    PHI didn’t act. BOS didnt act. So to me, it was bold.
    Them being a combination of arrogant and stupid doesn't make the Raptors bold. That was a no brainer trade if there ever was one.

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    But what was so horrible here as opposed to toronto
    Who knows. Uncle Dennis tried his power play here and failed? He'd need to have Kawhi move on in that case, so he can try somewhere else.

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    Them being a combination of arrogant and stupid doesn't make the Raptors bold. That was a no brainer trade if there ever was one.
    Probably - but DeRozan was an important figure and there is some downside, despite it being a gamble you have to make, if Kawhi bolts.

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    It was a combination of things; but Tony Parker's comment, and then the team meeting. It seems like that's what ended Kawhi's relationship with the Spurs.
    I don't think so. According to reports he told his team mates he'd do everything for them, just not for this organization. But who knows if that's true

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    The guys to the right of Uncle Dennis are billionaires in some kind of private Jet business. Uncle Dennis and Kawhi have been seen at their tail parties in downtown Toronto. Dennis has also been on vacation with one of them. He has formed a bond with these Toronto businessmen.

    Great networking by Uncle Dennis. I'm sure he will be making business deals with these guys next year in LA.

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    We could have been less than an hour away from a White, Green, Kawhi, Gay, Aldridge vs a Durantless Warriors series.

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    Should have never traded him in the offseason, tbh.

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    We could have been less than an hour away from a White, Green, Kawhi, Gay, Aldridge vs a Durantless Warriors series.
    Yeah that lineup is scary. Gay looked like he was primed for an impact player role. He was ready.

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    Should have never traded him in the offseason, tbh.
    Should Pop need to resign for this failure?

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    Should Pop need to resign for this failure?
    What's your take on it?

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    Should Pop need to resign for this failure?
    Its a few years too late. He should’ve retired with Timmy. Every second he prolongs it, it just further exposes his deficincies. And he’s oblivious to it, which makes it all the more sad.

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    PHI didn’t act. BOS didnt act. So to me, it was bold.
    I agree but to be fair to Philly and Boston they had a lot more to lose than Toronto. Simmons and Tatum/Brown have a lot more value than DeRozan has plus the Raptors were desperate to trade DeRozan whereas Philly and Boston viewed those guys as untouchable. Does Toronto trade for Kawhi if PATFO wanted Siakam and OG instead of DeRozan? Maybe not.

    The offer that Philly was reportedly offering was basically good enough to get them Butler and Harris. Covington and Saric (good enough for Butler) + Fultz and Miami 1st (at the time Fultz was more valuable than Shamet and a late 1st). Would PATFO have traded Kawhi for Butler and Harris?

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    I agree but to be fair to Philly and Boston they had a lot more to lose than Toronto. Simmons and Tatum/Brown have a lot more value than DeRozan has plus the Raptors were desperate to trade DeRozan whereas Philly and Boston viewed those guys as untouchable. Does Toronto trade for Kawhi if PATFO wanted Siakam and OG instead of DeRozan? Maybe not.

    The offer that Philly was reportedly offering was basically good enough to get them Butler and Harris. Covington and Saric (good enough for Butler) + Fultz and Miami 1st (at the time Fultz was more valuable than Shamet and a late 1st). Would PATFO have traded Kawhi for Butler and Harris?
    We just saw Kawhi beat all those guys himself. He was worth it and Simmons was not that much to lose as things stand.

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    Yeah that lineup is scary. Gay looked like he was primed for an impact player role. He was ready.
    ? Rudy gay was the reason spurs lost

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    PHI didn’t act. BOS didnt act. So to me, it was bold.
    This had LA flashing red to me. Both had stacks of assets, absolute stacks, but knew enough about a rental situation not to sit at the table with their chips.

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    We just saw Kawhi beat all those guys himself. He was worth it and Simmons was not that much to lose as things stand.
    I understand that but the risk is a lot different. DeRozan is a known en y, the Raptors were unhappy with what they were getting from him. Simmons is still 22 yrs old. He has tremendous potential and 10+ years of him and the hope he fulfills that potential is the reason why they didn't risk just 1 season of Kawhi coming off an injury. They would have needed to win the Championship and/or Kawhi to re-sign to make it worthwhile and hope Simmons didn't fulfill his potential.

    To put it into perspective it would be like if the Spurs were to trade rookie TD for Shaq in a contract year (pretending the season's aligned). At the time there was no guarantee TD would become an all-time great while Shaq was already a dominant player. Would you have wanted the Spurs to make that trade at the time?

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