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    The polls are trending away from McCain and towards Obama.

    No more post convention bounce. Back to the issues. McCain can't win this battle.

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    Intrade is shifting as well.

    McCain 48.5 (-2.0)
    Obama 51.5 (+2.6)

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    Yeah I don't buy Obama up in Indiana and I don't buy McCain at 47 in Oregon. WTF @ no undecideds? Did they just give them all to McCain?
    The polls show Obama within 4 in West Virginia. Yes, this West Virginia -



    That can't be accurate.

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    The polls show Obama within 4 in West Virginia. Yes, this West Virginia -



    That can't be accurate.
    I've actually read a lot about how WV could have been far more in play if Obama had tried as hard there as he did in Georgia.

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    The polls are trending away from McCain and towards Obama.

    No more post convention bounce. Back to the issues. McCain can't win this battle.


    I fully expected Obama to regain some control after the convention/Palin thing died down, but these numbers are just shifting way too fast t-wards Obama in some states he was just down alot in.....

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    Told you Whottt that was too early to call man right after the conventions.
    While I'm happy Obama has retaken the lead, I refuse to blow my load again till after the debates. Especially with how wierd these polls have been looking.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4456249.shtml

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    It is over....

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    I'm in agreement with you that these poll #'s are looking crazy. I expected it but not this fast.

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    My prediction that it is over wasn't based on polls.

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    My prediction that it is over wasn't based on polls.


    Oh. What were you basing it on?

    Obama may be leading in the natl polls again, but he has to fix some stuff on that map because he still trails McCain.

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    Oh. What were you basing it on?
    The same instinct I've used to predict the winner of the popular vote in every election I've been eligible to vote in.


    Obama the Democrats are too far to the left to win.

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    updated and has McCain at 274

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    The same instinct I've used to predict the winner of the popular vote in every election I've been eligible to vote in.


    Obama the Democrats are too far to the left to win.
    Is this the same instinct you've used to argue that NY is going to be in play?

    Barring an October surprise or a monumental gaffe by Obama, this election is his to lose.

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    Has ONE state exactly tied; and I live in it.

    My vote matters!!

    I hope Pat Buchanan isn't on the ballot; I'll get very confused.

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    The numbers on several of the key states on that map are prior to Monday's market meltdown, which has been an undeniable game changer so far.

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    I was suprised at this when I saw it this morning. I think given a few more days of the current trend you'll see that flip. I do believe McCain was at 280+ on there a couple of days ago though.

    EDIT: I just looked, McCain was at 254 yesterday. He's actually moved up. Interesting given the results of yesterdays polls were pretty solid for Obama.

    I still see the trend obviously in Obama's favor at this point and if it continues you will see those numbers flip in a couple of days.

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    The numbers on several of the key states on that map are prior to Monday's market meltdown, which has been an undeniable game changer so far.


    right! alot of the battleground states haven't been updated since Sunday.

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    The debates are gonna be big. (not the actual debates, but the reporting of who "won" them, that is) - I can't expect the idiots who change their minds every few hours to actually watch and understand the debates.

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    The polls have been very good for Obama the past few days, and the state polls tend to lag from the national ones. That said, neither candidate has locked this thing up.

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    The polls have been very good for Obama the past few days, and the state polls tend to lag from the national ones. That said, neither candidate has locked this thing up.


    It's still good to see Obama get some breathing room though. Hopefully he stays on the attack. It's when he takes his foot off the gas and goes on the defensive is when he normally starts to lose momentum.

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    Is this the same instinct you've used to argue that NY is going to be in play?
    Yes...and out of 3 polls, all 3 polls back that statement up.


    Barring an October surprise or a monumental gaffe by Obama, this election is his to lose.
    Obama cannot stand up to scruitiny...he's completely dirty and it's easy to see for non zombies.

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    Yes...and out of 3 polls, all 3 polls back that statement up.
    It will take a miracle for McCain just to get within single digits on the RCP average, much less make NY truly compe ive.

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    Man, that was tough to watch.

    Here I thought southeast Michigan was the last racially-divided hole in this country. Who knew?

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    It will take a miracle for McCain just to get within single digits on the RCP average, much less make NY truly compe ive.


    Even the blowout poll(in Obama's favor) shows a 10 point gain for McCain...I only predicted a 5....the other 2 are much closer.

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    Man, that was tough to watch.

    Here I thought southeast Michigan was the last racially-divided hole in this country. Who knew?
    Maybe they should just make it illegal to not vote for the black guy.

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