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Way to attempt to conceal the fact that you've conceded. Nice try, genius.
It was sarcasm. I've repeatedly said it's a no brainer to sign Splitter.
Excuse me please if I missed your sarcasm. I don't always get it on the first read.
Way to attempt to conceal the fact that you've conceded. Nice try, genius.
It was sarcasm. I've repeatedly said it's a no brainer to sign Splitter.
There's nothing here worth debating. My first post in response to your question wasn't offered to take any opposing point of view, but to add something to the conversation. You're the one who responded with condescension. I responded to your condescension with sarcasm.
You're right. Clearly there are no parallels between Scola's situation in 2007 and Splitter's potential situation in 2010. No parallel whatsoever. I was wrong, you were right. I concede to your superior knowledge and interpretation of the relative strengths of the players and teams involved. You win.
If there's nothing worth debating here, then run along sideshow Mel. What was this then, just another attempt to have a argument with me? Other than extreme arrogance, that seems to be your M.O.
Did I say "no parallels"? "Relative strengths of the players and teams involved"? Never got into that, either. Now you're just flat out making things up, while attempting to come off as intelligent in the process. Too bad you're failing to do so.
What I said was the Rockets weren't legitimate contenders in 07-08. The 10-11 Spurs might be. That means one was done playing in late April, while the other could be playing deep into May and possibly June. I suppose you'll now tell me that that makes no difference as far as fatigue is concerned?
Supreme irony.
Go back and read the posts and see when it devolved from a conversation to an argument. Better yet, look at your ongoing argument in the Mahinmi thread. You're the one who can't let go without a concession.
So, I concede. I'll know better than to make any comment on anything you post unless I am in perfect agreement with what you have to say.
It was this post that this devolved from a conversation to an argument. Yet another example of your extreme arrogance, this time in the form of sarcasm. The issue? I essentially told you your comparison was a bad one and pointed out the primary difference between the two situations. You couldn't take the fact that someone wasn't impressed with what you brought to the table.TD21 has spoken. No need for further discussion, introduction of facts or alternate theories or opinions.
Somehow I knew you'd bring up the Mahinmi thread. I'm not surprised, since you're desperate to have some of your yes men come into this thread and back you. The Mahinmi thread has nothing to do with letting go, it's based on one person not understanding the other.
I know you concede. All this ongoing talk is just an attempt to change the subject. It's not about agreeing with me, because, you like many, lack basic reading comprehension skills. I never said "I think Splitter will be fatigued if the Spurs make the WCF next season" or "I know Splitter will be fatigued if the Spurs make the WCF next season". I asked, "is anyone mildly concerned he will be fatigued if the Spurs make the WCF next season?" Based on all you've written, I'll take it you're not. That's fine, but don't act like Scola rookie season which finished in April is the same as the situation I'm describing.
That's exactly how this conversation devolved into an argument. It's really a one sided argument, because all I asked was "how are the two situations the same?" You followed that up by dodging the question and being sarcastic, which was a clear sign that you had conceded.
Clearly, the Scola situation and the situation I am describing are different. That's not opinion; that's fact. You can argue until you're blue in the face, the reality is Scola didn't play into late May in his rookie season.
I think there is enough time between playoff games to effectively negate any difference in fatigue between late April and late May.
You're the only one who is arguing. You're the only who has been arguing for quite some time now. How many times must I concede to your superior knowledge and reasoning before you accept my concession? Do you not see the irony in continuing to make your case long after I have conceded, while at the same time accusing me of being invested in starting and maintaining the argument. Once again, I concede. This clearly was not a difference of opinion, but rather a matter resolvable by the facts. Clearly the facts you have presented have carried the day.
For what I hope will be the last time, you win.
Give it up, man. I'm not arguing and this isn't about my "superior knowledge and reasoning". This is about the fact that you tried to compare two different things and make them one and the same. Only, you're too arrogant to admit that you misunderstood what I was saying. Get over yourself.
I'm not making my case, I'm explaining the situation. You said go back and find where this devolved from conversation to argument and I did.
Splitter's coach is legendary for the physical preparation he gives to his team. More than one guy have asked to leave his team due to how physically demanding his practices are. If Splitter survived Ivanovic's practices, he won't have any problems with a NBA season.
This is more of a problem for younger players and rookies out of college. Plus, I doubt Splitter will be playing 38 mpg or something like that.
The words speak for themselves. I have no intention of editing my previous posts. As long as you do the same, they will continue to speak for themselves.
ChumperDumper and mogrovejo understood the (simple) question and answered accordingly. On top of that, they managed to do it without a hint of arrogance.
Where is there any hint of arrogance in my initial response to the question you posed?
Must be an off day for both of us.
It wasn't your initial response, it was the follow up responses.
I was thinking the same thing, chumperdumper.
At this point, I will make a sincere attempt to lower the volume and make a real attempt to move beyond this and get back to talking about basketball. I hope you are willing to do the same.
You have quoted a particular post of mine as objectionable. This one:
I will readily admit that I wrote that post to be sarcastic.TD21 has spoken. No need for further discussion, introduction of facts or alternate theories or opinions.
That post was in response to a post of yours which included:
Now, perhaps you will concede that the bolded portion contains at least a hint of arrogance on your part. Maybe there was no such intent on your part. Even if there was intent on your part, I certainly raised the volume with my response.
So, I'm ready to leave this behind and move back to discussing basketball
Are you?
That's what I've been trying to do all along. Glad to see you've joined in.
There was no such intent on my part and you certainly did raise the volume. Good on you for owning up to it...finally (sorry, I couldn't resist).
My point was you acted as if because the win totals were similar (Rockets was actually higher) that that meant each team was/will be entering the season expecting to legitimately compete for a championship. But really, were the '08 Rockets legitimately expecting to compete for a championship? I don't think they were and even in the event they were, that was really irrelevant to what I was asking.
All I was saying was the Rockets season ended in late April. How do you think Splitter will hold up in late May and possibly into June next season, coming off of playing deep into this season and playing for the national team over the summer?
So, you do see how it could have been taken as such even if there was no intent?(sorry, couldn't resist either).
As to the Splitter discussion, I understood your point all along and never intended to contradict it. You'll have to accept that just as you feel that I didn't follow your point, I also felt that you didn't follow mine.
To respond directly without revisiting the earlier discussion. Of course, doubt exists as to how Splitter will hold up as he adjusts to life in America, the brutally long NBA season and the ridiculous schedule that will have him playing 5 games in 5 different cities in a week, and then a post season that could extend the season by more than 20 high stakes games. It will be uncharted territory for him and playing for the NT doesn't help matters.
For now, though, the only real concern I have about Tiago Splitter is whether or not he will sign an NBA contract to play for the San Antonio Spurs. We'll only get the answers to all the other questions about how skilled and durable he can be in the NBA after the biggest question is answered.
Yeah. It's easy for things to get lost in translation on a message board.
How did I not follow your point?
I agree with the part in bold. I know that we'll only get those answers after the fact. It was just a question. A lot of what we're doing here is projecting, predicting, etc.
I don't know that you didn't, more a perception on my part. Just as you said that you believed I wasn't following your points, when I'm very certain that I was. As you said, things get lost in translation. Now that we've returned to to a normal conversational tone and found a major point of agreement, it's certainly not worth going back down that particular rabbit hole.
I'm sure that others will present themselves in the future.
Whats a chumperdumper?
Caja Laboral won game 2 85-80 in OT.
Splitter was damn awesome.
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