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    So Smokey was Christian, but Jack saw him off the Island in the hospital, how did smokey get off the island?

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    So Smokey was Christian, but Jack saw him off the Island in the hospital, how did smokey get off the island?
    Or on the freighter when he appeared to Michael.

    I'm hoping that's not the full answer... we'll see. It doesn't fully make sense, but I'm starting to accept that a good number of the puzzle pieces may not fit.

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    Locke didn't have anything to offer Jack. However, Jack did say that he came back to the island because he thought he was broken. Jacob was right about when a person talks and listens to MIB/Flocke. If you talk and listen to him, you're going to be hooked in by him. MIB/Flocke used that power on Sayid, Claire, Sawyer, and Sun & Jin.
    Yeah, they were SO under FLocke's power that they all (other than Sayid, who appears to perhaps have defied FLocke and let Desmond live) stole a boat and left.

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    So Smokey was Christian, but Jack saw him off the Island in the hospital, how did smokey get off the island?
    I think FLocke was lying. I think Jacob was appearing as Christian each and every time. Jacob can obviously leave the island and it's periphery. FLocke appears to have to remain within a small area encompassed by The Island, Hydra Island, and a small area around them, probably whatever diameter travels with the island when it time-skips.

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    So Jack is the last recruit of Flocke?

    Is Hurley the candidate?

    Don't have a damn clue!

    I have a feeling many questions will be left unanswered- hope I'm wrong!

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    I think Jack is the last recruit because he was the only one that went back to Locke. Everyone else wanted to be on the boat and leave the island for good but Jack wanted to stay because he thought he was suppose to do something on the island. Jack wants purpose and meaning. That's why he came back to the island because he was broken. I wish the real Locke would come back and beat Flocke's ass. I can't stand hearing Flocke talking about the real Locke. I don't care what anybody says. The real Locke was a badass on the island.

    Did anyone laugh when Hurley mentioned Anakin to Sawyer?

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    Yeah, I liked that line Jacob.

    Also, everyone in the Alt seems to be remembering their Island self... what happens when Locke remembers his?

    We've already seen the MiB do some very "Locke" type things... remember when he yelled "Don't tell me what I can't do!"? Maybe more of the real Locke will bleed through.

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    I think Jack is the last recruit because he was the only one that went back to Locke.
    I think it depends on your perspective. Sayid could easily be the last recruit...for the good guys, now that he and Clair appear to have defected.

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    I think it depends on your perspective. Sayid could easily be the last recruit...for the good guys, now that he and Clair appear to have defected.
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    There's a repeat of Ab Aeterno next week, but after that, the next episode is called "The Candidate"... so hopefully we'll find out for sure which one it is. I'm assuming Jack.

    The next episode after that is called "Across the Sea" and is supposed to be the backstory of Jacob and the MiB, with none of the regular cast members.

    After that, there's another episode en led "What They Died For"... meaning I expect some people to go down in the Candidate episode, though it could refer to Across the Sea.

    And then finally... the last two-part finale is simply called "The End".

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    @ the last episode.

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    More answers already....no point in hiding stuff with 3 episodes to go....get on with it


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    More answers already....no point in hiding stuff with 3 episodes to go....get on with it

    Given the answers we've gotten for Christians and the Whispers... I'm not sure if we WANT all the answers.

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    I think FLocke was lying. I think Jacob was appearing as Christian each and every time. Jacob can obviously leave the island and it's periphery. FLocke appears to have to remain within a small area encompassed by The Island, Hydra Island, and a small area around them, probably whatever diameter travels with the island when it time-skips.
    But we saw Claire with Christian in the cabin. That wouldn't make sense if he was Jacob.

    On the other hand, Sun and Lapidus saw Christian in dharmaland when the MIB was already trapped in Locke's body.

    Maybe both Flocke and Jacob appeared as Christian.

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    what the ? Next week's episode won't be new????

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    So Smokey was Christian, but Jack saw him off the Island in the hospital, how did smokey get off the island?
    Smokey simply looks like Christian on the island.

    Off the island, I think Jack really saw his dad's ghost.

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    I think FLocke was lying. I think Jacob was appearing as Christian each and every time. Jacob can obviously leave the island and it's periphery. FLocke appears to have to remain within a small area encompassed by The Island, Hydra Island, and a small area around them, probably whatever diameter travels with the island when it time-skips.
    Jacob hasn't been known to appear as anyone else, has he? Why would he need to?

    I think Flocke being Christian the whole time fits the story.......especially the part where he told Locke he was going to need to die after he fell down the well...

    ......which by happenstance is where Desmond got pushed down into...

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    what the ? Next week's episode won't be new????
    Nope. Repeat of Ab Aeterno, which I didn't really like.

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    Smokey simply looks like Christian on the island.

    Off the island, I think Jack really saw his dad's ghost.
    what about

    But we saw Claire with Christian in the cabin. That wouldn't make sense if he was Jacob.

    On the other hand, Sun and Lapidus saw Christian in dharmaland when the MIB was already trapped in Locke's body.

    Maybe both Flocke and Jacob appeared as Christian.
    ?

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    But we saw Claire with Christian in the cabin. That wouldn't make sense if he was Jacob.

    On the other hand, Sun and Lapidus saw Christian in dharmaland when the MIB was already trapped in Locke's body.

    Maybe both Flocke and Jacob appeared as Christian.
    He was only trapped once Jacob died. Remember he turns into Alex in S5 too.

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    He was only trapped once Jacob died. Remember he turns into Alex in S5 too.
    Ilana said "he's stuck like that now". We don't know for sure when. But you're probably right.

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    He was only trapped once Jacob died. Remember he turns into Alex in S5 too.
    that's interesting that he gets trapped once Jacob died....

    one would think he would be free once Jacob died.

    .....it would be nice if that freaky quiet kid with the stupid grin would start explaining some of the rules of the island before the season finale.

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    At least some major plot points are revealed in the next two episodes. Some payoff from the war that MIB spoke of, and the islands history.

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    a lot.

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    why did they kill 3 people off including Sayid....damn it


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    I sort of saw Sayid coming, but not the other two. Waterworks!!!

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