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    iirc the University of San Francisco voluntarily shut down its basketball program for a while in the early '80s because players were basically running amok on campus. If Penn State had any honor whatsoever they'd do that. But they won't.

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    I doubt Penn State gets any NCAA sanctions for this as there doesn't seem to be any whispers about that happening. Penn State will still be a profitable program so the NCAA isn't gonna ruin that, however if Penn State starts to suck 3-5 years from now, then the NCAA will sanction them after needing 3-5 years to "gather the facts".

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    I personally hope they get burned for the cover-up.

    No way this ins ution should get a free pass for covering up a crazy pedophile conjuring up his own sex ring.

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    Let's be real though, they won't get punished in the slightest by the NCAA, because the NCAA only cares about this, tbh...



    Now if this were, say, LaTech instead of a well-known, traditional program like Penn State that brings in a ton of ratings/merch money, the death penalty would have been handed out months ago....

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    Contrary to What You Have Heard, the Freeh Report has Big Problems by John Ziegler

    1)

    The most glaring omission in the report is that Freeh did speak to any of the primary witnesses in the case. Not Paterno. Not Tim Curley. Not Mike McQueary (whom he referred to as “McQuade” in the press conference). Not Jerry Sandusky.

    How can any investigation possibly be considered remotely complete or come to any legitimate conclusions without even speaking to any of the most important witnesses?

    How can we possibly fully evaluate Paterno’s actions if we don’t know exactly what Mike McQueary (who, it must be pointed out, misremembered the year he witnessed the episode in the shower, an incident for which there is still no actual victim) told him? How can we possibly understand fairly vague emails without even hearing from the guy who wrote them?

    2)

    Secondly, Freeh seems to promise far more in his press release/conclusions than he actually delivers in real evidence. Most of the media of course, at best, only read the summary and not the actual report. Thanks to that, it appears that most people have no idea that the real evidence backing up Freeh’s conclusions is, given the strong language he uses, remarkably thin.
    The key pieces of new evidence (and frankly, maybe the only significant ones) against Paterno are two emails cited on pages 48 and 49 of the report which Freeh concludes are “clear" proof that Paterno was fully in the loop on the 1998 investigation of Sandusky which resulted in no criminal charges.

    However, Freeh is grotesquely overstating his evidence.

    A close examination of these two emails raises significant questions as to what they actually mean. The first email is from athletic director Curley to the university president with the subject line “Joe Paterno.” As far as we know, the only content of the email was “I have touched base with the coach. Keep us posted. Thanks.”

    Based on this, Freeh concludes that because the email was sent after Curley knew of the investigation into Sandusky that Sandusky had to be the subject of their “touching base.” Even if this wasn’t a bit of an evidentiary leap (which it is), we have no idea what “touching base” really means and, again, Freeh has never even spoken to Curley to find out. The president didn’t even remember this email, which he referred to as a “vague reference with no individual named.”

    The second email is just as problematic. In it Curley writes to the head of campus police, “anything new in this department? Coach is anxious to know where it stands.” Freeh writes, without any actual evidence that, “the reference to Coach is believed to be Paterno.” We are to assume that “is believed” really means “believed by Louis Freeh.”

    3)

    One of the most blatant errors in the report with regard to both facts as well as their interpretation comes with regard to the two Penn State janitors about whom Freeh spoke so glowingly at his press conference. Here Freeh exposes himself and his report to very credible charges of malpractice.

    Freeh claims that two janitors saw something “horrific” in the Penn State locker room in 2000. He says that they didn’t report the episode because they were terrified of speaking of what they saw to Paterno because going up against the football program was like taking on the “President of the United States” and they feared being fired. Freeh then concludes that this fear proved that there was a “chilling effect” within the football program, which was, in it self, is evidence of a culture of corruption.

    These assertions by Freeh are simply as laughable as they are inaccurate.

    First of all, whether Freeh realizes it or not, his team has never spoken to the actual witness in the 2000 episode because the lone witness now has dementia. The other janitor who testified at trial did so under a hearsay exception and only told of what the other janitor told him. Secondly, neither janitor would have been reporting to Paterno. Thirdly, Sandusky was a former football coach at that time. Fourthly, Freeh seems to completely disregard the obvious reality that these janitors desperately need an explanation for why they didn’t report the episode and that their claiming “fear” of a now dead man (without a shred of evidence) should be looked at with great su ion. Finally, it seems totally lost on Freeh that these janitors who didn’t report the episode at all are being treated by him as heroes while Paterno, who did at least report allegations which he didn’t even witness, is seen as a pedophile protector.

    MORE:

    http://www.johnziegler.com/editorial...?editorial=219

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    Bob Costas "“if [Penn St.] play[s] football in September something is wrong”

    Bob Costas said Penn State's football program should get the death penalty for this.

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    Why isn't Costas calling for the death penalty for all athletics at Penn St?

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    I don't think the football program should get the death penalty.

    Did the Catholic Church get the death penalty?

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    The Catholic Church doesn't answer to the NCAA, dumbass....

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    Victim #2 has come forward.

    The one McQueary saw in the shower with Sandusky. Pretty disturbing.

    It's shown that Sandusky contacted this Victim in September 2011 to try and coerce his testimony and continue the bribes of access to the Penn State football program.


    http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/201...awyers_sa.html

    http://citizensvoice.com/news/shower...tate-1.1348995

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    Truly disturbing--I hope the victims that come forward can find some solace that Sandusky is behind bars. I know it won't completely rid them of the nightmares they faced in Happy Valley, but it would be somewhat better than if the perpetrator was never caught.

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    For those not here in San Antonio, local radio station 99.5 Kiss played some recorded phone messages left by Sandusky to some of his victims.

    All I can say is wow, this man was straight up a sick individual, he sounded like a stalker woman leaving a message on guys cell phone. After listening to it, I think he is so completely insane, he has no concept of reality.

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    Bottom line............. you dont play with fire, you dont get burned. Everyone is upset at the consequences to what initially happened. Oh well. Reap what you sow.

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    Franco Harris crashed the PSU Trustees meeting:

    http://deadspin.com/5943402/franco-h...ophone-cut-off

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