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If you're going to keep referring to it, that'd be advisable.
lol
If you're going to keep referring to it, that'd be advisable.
believing a confirmed liar. lol
zimmerman couldn't think of another word for walking fast or brisk walk but he can remember everything else lmaooo. whew!
As his counsel, I wouldn't have allowed him to do the interview.
But, nothing he said is inconsistent with his original story. He's just really bad at relating what happened.
And, on the point of what happened up to the point of the confrontation -- most of what he relayed in the interview last night, happened while he was on the phone with police. If I remember correctly the entire call lasted around 4 minutes with 2 of those occurring after Martin moved away from Zimmerman, between the condos, at faster than a walk ( , I don't even know what word to use).
That timeline is perfectly consistent with Zimmerman walking from his truck, across the complex to he street and walking back toward his truck before terminating the call.
An important piece of evidence will be the amount of time between the termination of Zimmerman's call with police and the termination of Martin's call with his girlfriend. That will tell us how long after Zimmerman hung up with police that the confrontation occurred.
We already know from Martin's girlfriend, Martin spoke first. So, the closer to the same time both calls terminated the more likely it is Martin waited for Zimmerman to end his call and confront him. The greater the time difference, the more time there would be for a scenario Zimmerman's critics claim happened...not that it means it did happen that way.
Bottom line, the timeline supports Zimmerman being where he was when the confrontation occurred. There is no reason for Martin to have still been that close to the scene after two minutes unless he was detained or waited or returned. None. And, I've listened to the police recording and there is nothing to suggest Zimmerman was detaining Martin until the end of the call.
liar....always referring to god. lol
Actually, if you watch the interview, he was unclear on a number of details -- particularly those that occurred after Martin started bashing his head against the concrete.
Besides, memory and vocabulary are two different things.
bashing lol
he knew exactly what he was doing, the interview was scripted, rehearsed and he still managed to up.
happy barbara walters realized how much of a snake he is before giving him an interview
http://thegrio.com/2012/07/19/george...to-supporters/
The day after he gave an interview to Sean Hannity of Fox News, in which he expressed “no regrets” over the incidents surrounding the shooting death of Trayvon Martin, George Zimmerman relaunched his website, and sent a message to his supporters.
“I want to reach out to each supporter personally, however, the overwhelming support has made that effort challenging. I thank each and every one of you for your support, whether through your hard-earned money, words of encouragement, or most importantly through prayer,” Zimmerman said on the site, which had been shuttered by his attorney, Mark O’Mara, after the attorney took over the case in April. Zimmerman initially created TheRealGeorgeZimmerman.com while in hiding, prior to being charged with second degree murder in the Martin killing. His previous attorneys quit after losing touch with him, and included in their reasons for resigning, Zimmerman’s launching of the website, and an associated PayPal account, without consulting them. The following day, Zimmerman was charged with second degree murder.
That PayPal account eventually took in more than $209,000 — more than $135,000 of which was in the Zimmermans’ bank account on the day before his April 20 bond hearing. Zimmerman’s wife, S ie, faces perjury charges for misleading the court about the money, raised from supporters. O’Mara declared the couple indigent at the hearing, and Zimmerman’s bond was revoked in June, after prosecutors discovered the existence of the money.
Now, the website is back.
Zimmerman explained why, in his letter to supporters:
“This has been the most difficult time of my life. I have been charged and arrested for murder, I have been accused of being a racist, and my family and I have to live in hiding because of threats against my life. I am not a murderer, and I am not a racist. Rumors and lies about the case and me are rampant on the Internet. I want to set the record straight about some things. I created this website to give me, the real George Zimmerman, a place to do that,” the post read. And Zimmerman added: “This is not my website, this is our website.”
The post includes a pitch for donations to the Zimmerman legal defense fund, which O’Mara placed under a trustee’s control in April.
“I also want a place where people can send me words of encouragement, and while I wish I didn’t have to ask, a place for those able to donate to my defense fund,” Zimmerman writes. “I started a defense fund to help pay my living expenses, to help with legal expenses, and help with security expenses as needed. I have had no other means of generating income for five months let alone pay the enormous expenses surrounding this case.”
Zimmerman in the post states that his living and security expenses have proved to be much larger than anticipated: “We have been in hiding in temporary housing, and our security needs have been extremely high,” he writes. “The fund has been devastated by the need to pay $100,000 to a bondsman and almost $50,000 in security expenses. The skyrocketing legal costs have gone unpaid. The defense fund is at its lowest point since its inception; in fact, with outstanding expenses yet unpaid, the fund is near depletion.”
O’Mara created a separate site, GZLegalCase.com, back in April, to disseminate information about the case. But Zimmerman indicates his site will do so, too. A previous version of the site drew controversy for including pictures of pro-Zimmerman graffiti scrawled on a black cultural center at Ohio State University.
The new site includes none of the original content. O’Mara confirmed to NBC News that the site is being administered by George Zimmerman. The full text of his letter is below:
o,
Thank you for taking the time to visit our website. I want to reach out to each supporter personally, however, the overwhelming support has made that effort challenging. I thank each and every one of you for your support, whether through your hard-earned money, words of encouragement, or most importantly through prayer. I want to tell you why I have created this site. This has been the most difficult time of my life. I have been charged and arrested for murder, I have been accused of being a racist, and my family and I have to live in hiding because of threats against my life. I am not a murderer, and I am not a racist. Rumors and lies about the case and me are rampant on the Internet. I want to set the record straight about some things. I created this website to give me, the real George Zimmerman, a place to do that. This is not my website, this is our website. I am going to use this as a chance to communicate with you and listen to you, and as an opportunity to share important things about the case.
I also want a place where people can send me words of encouragement, and while I wish I didn’t have to ask, a place for those able to donate to my defense fund. I started a defense fund to help pay my living expenses, to help with legal expenses, and help with security expenses as needed. I have had no other means of generating income for five months let alone pay the enormous expenses surrounding this case.
Given the extraordinary cir stances surrounding this case, we have now realized that it is much larger than we ever thought regarding its extent and cost. We have been in hiding in temporary housing, and our security needs have been extremely high. The fund has been devastated by the need to pay $100,000 to a bondsman and almost $50,000 in security expenses. The skyrocketing legal costs have gone unpaid. The defense fund is at its lowest point since its inception; in fact, with outstanding expenses yet unpaid, the fund is near depletion.
I don’t have the words to express the gra ude that my family and I feel toward you. Thank you for your generosity and your support in the past. We need your help again. It is only through your support that we have come this far and I’m learning there is a long way to go.
Once again, I humbly thank you.
Sincerely,
Your Friend, George
The child killing molestor's story continues to change
http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmem..._story_fox.php
Nick R. Martin July 19, 2012, 1:12 PM 11196
George Zimmerman’s interview on Wednesday night with FOX News host Sean Hannity made it clear for the cable viewing nation that his story continues to shift in small but important ways.
Hannity was a mostly sympathetic interviewer, having defended Zimmerman for months as a misunderstood and maligned victim who almost certainly was forced to kill unarmed teenager Trayvon Martin in self defense.
But even Hannity managed to catch the former neighborhood watchman on some inconsistencies early in the interview. The FOX host asked him to talk about the night of the Feb. 26 killing, when he first spotted the teen walking in the rain through the gated neighborhood in the Orlando suburbs.
From inside his vehicle that night, Zimmerman, 28, called the police and asked them to come out and investigate what Martin was up to. He had no idea that Martin was staying in the neighborhood with his father and his father’s girlfriend and was walking back from the store.
On a recording of the call, Zimmerman could be heard at one point telling the dispatcher that Martin had taken off. “ , he’s running,” Zimmerman said. At almost the same moment, the audio captured him taking off his seat belt, opening the door to his vehicle and getting out to follow the teen.
Authorities have said Martin ran because he was afraid of Zimmerman and that the neighborhood watchman chased him down, confronted him and eventually shot and killed him.
But on Wednesday night’s broadcast, Zimmerman changed his story from what he told the dispatcher that night. He also said there was no way Martin was afraid of him. Here’s part of the transcript prepared by FOX News:
Zimmerman went on to say he was “going in the same direction” as the teen to watch where he was headed but was not “actually pursuing him.”
HANNITY: Why do you think that he was running then?
ZIMMERMAN: Maybe I said running, but he was more —
HANNITY: You said he’s running.
ZIMMERMAN: Yes. He was like skipping, going away quickly.
But he wasn’t running out of fear.
HANNITY: You could tell the difference?
ZIMMERMAN: He wasn’t running.
HANNITY: So he wasn’t actually running?
ZIMMERMAN: No, sir.
HANNITY: OK. Because that’s what you said to the dispatcher, that you thought he was running.
The discrepancies could end up being damaging to his defense. Prosecutors charged him with second-degree murder and said his actions led to a fight and ultimately to Martin’s death. He has pleaded not guilty, said the teen attacked him first.
But that wasn’t the only inconsistency in his story on Wednesday. He also shifted what he said happened after coming face to face with the teen.
Zimmerman in the past has told authorities some slightly different versions about the encounter. All seem to involve the teen punching him in the nose, knocking him to the ground and getting on top of him.
But in one version, Zimmerman has said the teen repeatedly punched him in the face while he was flat on his back and then slammed his head into the concrete. In another version, he never mentioned the punches, saying only that the teen got on top of him and immediately started to slam his head onto the ground.
Zimmerman told the first version to investigators just hours after the shooting in an interrogation room in Sanford, Fla. The interview was recorded on video and released to the public in recent weeks.
“He ended up on top of me and he just kept punching my face and my head,” Zimmerman said in the interrogation. “I got a little bit of leverage and I started to sit up, and he took my head and slammed it into the concrete.”
The second version came days later when Zimmerman was taken back to the neighborhood by police investigators to reenact the events of that night. It was also recorded on video and recently released.
“He got on top of me somewhere around here and that’s when I started screaming ‘help, help’ as loud as I could. Oh, that’s when he grabbed me — I tried to sit up and that’s when he grabbed me by the head and tried to slam my head down,” Zimmerman said.
Zimmerman returned to his first version of the story on Wednesday night with Hannity. He said the teen punched him “more than a dozen” times while he was on the ground. Here again is the FOX News transcript:
HANNITY: OK. So after that first hit, what happened next?Zimmerman is free on a $1 million bond. His trial is expected to begin next year.
ZIMMERMAN: He started bashing my head into the concrete sidewalk. I was — as soon as he broke my nose, I was — I started yelling for help. So, I was disoriented. And he started slamming my head into the concrete.
HANNITY: Which is where the lacerations came from?
ZIMMERMAN: Yes, sir.
HANNITY: You said it was like your head was going to explode was a comment that you had given to the police.
ZIMMERMAN: Yes, sir. He continued to punch me in the head.
HANNITY: How many times would you estimate that he punched you?
ZIMMERMAN: Several. More than a dozen.
HANNITY: And hitting you hard.
*waits for the spurstalk GZ legal team to counter*
I have an the autopsy report and such do not include a layout of the supposed location, any signs of gunpowder or anything else that I am not an expert on or the like in regards to the shooting.
I did look and found the following.
http://www.examiner.com/article/auto...rmediate-rangeI would want to review the autopsy report and interview the medical examiner who conducted the autopsy to find out whether he noticed any injuries other than the fatal gunshot. For example, did Martin have any abrasions on his hands and fingers.
I would have a lot of questions for the medical examiner regarding the nature of the gunshot wound and Martin’s clothing.
For example, the weapon was a black Kel Tek 9 mm PF9 semiautomatic. The bullet would have been discharged when Zimmerman pulled the trigger causing the hammer to strike the primer igniting the smokeless powder in the casing producing rapidly expanding gas (consisting of carbon monoxide, nitrogen dioxide, carbon dioxide and other gases) that ejects the bullet, burning and unburned gunpowder (the burn always is incomplete), and trace amounts of the primer that contains heavy metals, including lead, antimony, and bismuth. Depending on the nature of the wound and the presence of all, some, or none of these materials, a qualified forensic firearms expert can determine how far away the gun barrel was when the shot was fired.
The gases, including the heavy metals, and some smoke from unburned but gaseous carbon, are projected only a few inches. The effects of the gas produce what are called contact or near-contact wounds that are characterized by variable skin lacerations or tears from the expanding gases that rip the skin apart and stippling, which is blackening skin from the unburned smokeless gunpowder that is propelled out the barrel of the gun with the bullet by the rapidly expanding gas.
As the distance of the gun barrel to the skin increases, the effect of the gas diminishes and only the unburned powder and bullet are capable of penetrating the skin. Stippling is present when the gun barrel is 0.5 centimeter to 1 meter from the wound. The pattern gets larger as the distance increases. So-called distant wounds do not cause tearing or stippling.
Based on Zimmerman’s statement, I would expect Martin to have had a contact or near contact wound with skin laceration or tearing caused by the explosive gases entering the wound expanding and tearing the skin. I also would expect to see some stippling or unburned smokeless powder. If I did not see evidence of either in the wound or clothing fibers, I would conclude that the gun barrel was more than a meter away, which is at odds with Zimmerman’s statement in which he claimed that he shot Martin as Martin was on top and hitting him.
Given Zimmerman’s statement, I also would expect to see high velocity blood spatter (mist-like spray of blood drops about 1 mm in diameter) or blowback on the barrel of Zimmerman’s gun, his shooting hand, and the sleeve of his jacket.
Absence of skin tearing, stippling, and high velocity blowback or blood spatter would seriously undermine a claim of self-defense.
I also noticed that you completely disregard that the kid could not have been begging for his life with high velocity shrapnel in his heart and lung. Nor do I think you have seen someone that has been severely beaten.Skip to main content
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Autopsy report reveals Trayvon Martin was shot at ‘intermediate range’
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An autopsy report released to the public Wednesday shows Trayvon Martin, the Florida teen who was shot and killed by neighborhood watch volunteer George Zimmerman, was shot at "intermediate range."
The report shows Trayvon's gunshot wound is consistent with a wound of entrance at intermediate range, which many believe conflicts with Zimmerman's account of what happened the night of the shooting.
View slideshow: Autopsy report reveals Trayvon Martin was shot at ‘intermediate range’
HLN’s Jane Velez-Mitc invited experts, including a forensic consultant, to weigh in Thursday on what ‘intermediate range’ means and found their answers varied greatly from three inches, to 12 inches, to 18 inches, to three feet.
The consensus, Velez-Mitc said, is Trayvon Martin was shot anywhere from a few inches to three feet away from George Zimmerman.
Trayvon Martin, 17, shot and killed by George Zimmerman in Florida - family shares photos
Trayvon Martin, 17, shot and killed by George Zimmerman in Florida - family shares photos
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George Zimmerman reportedly told police that Trayvon was the aggressor, and that Trayvon punched him, knocked him down, and beat his head into the ground causing him to shoot and kill Trayvon Martin in self-defense.
Velez-Mitc posed the question: If Trayvon was on top of Zimmerman, how could the gun fire be several inches away, let alone several feet away?
Forensic consultant Mike Knox explained that when a pistol is fired there will be some type of gunshot residue. He said there would be particles of partially burned and unburned powder as well as soot from the combustion that comes from the firearm.
Knox said the residue is deposited around the wound. Based on the gunshot residue, the pathologist is able to tell that the gun was not in contact with the skin. At intermediate range, the gun would be fired at least several inches away and would be close enough to deposit the soot, the stippling, and the gun shot particle.
Read autopsy report showing "intermediate range"
Velez-Mitc asked Knox how far away could the shot have been fired and still be considered “intermediate range.” Knox said that with most firearms, such as the 9mm Zimmerman used to kill Trayvon, about three feet would be the maximum distance. Knox said gunshot residue would not be present on the body if the gun was shot a distance of more than three feet away.
Knox confirmed distant-range means there is no presence of any type of gunshot residue, meaning the gun would have been shot from a distance greater than three feet, and close-range means the gun was touching the victim's body.
The information provided by Knox conflicts somewhat with information on the Forensics-Medicine.info website that reads:
In forensics there are four types of gunshot wound:
Contact wound - the muzzle of the gun was applied to the skin at the time of the shooting;
Close Range - the muzzle of the gun was six to eight inches away from the skin at the time of the shooting;
Intermediate Range - the gun was eight inches to 3.5 feet away; and
Distant Range - the gun was over 3.4 feet away at the time of the shooting.
The “Forensic Investigation Handbook: An Introduction to the Collection, Preservation, Analysis, and Presentation of Evidence” by Michael Fitting Karagiozis and Richard Sqaglio states on p. 139:
Intermediate range (6-8 inches to 1.5-3.5 feet): This is too far for soot to travel so there is no fouling, but hot fragments of burning propellant (gunpowder) follow the bullet to the victim and produce stippling by causing pinpoint burns around the entrance wound. Of the two types of propellant, “ball” and “flake,” the former will produce stippling at a greater distance.
The handbook states close range is between six to eight inches, and that the entrance wound is surrounded by fouling, which is soot that travels for a short distance from the gun barrel to be deposited on the skin. There may also be stippling.
According to the autopsy report, the entrance wound was on Trayvon’s left chest. The wound passed from the front to back entering the heart and lung. There was no exit wound. Three fragments of projectile were recovered. The lead core was recovered behind the right ventricle, and two fragments were recovered behind the right lower lobe of his lung.
Trayvon was shot and killed the night of Feb. 26, and was initially classified an “Unidentified #3,” because police did not find fingerprint information on Trayvon in the fingerprint database. Photographs were taken at the scene, and Trayvon’s body was placed in a blue transport pouch. The coroner received positive identification on Feb. 28 just after noon. The identification was made by Trayvon’s father from crime scene photos.
The Death Certificate Worksheet indicates the cause of death was a gunshot wound to the chest. The manner of death was homicide, and the incident occurred when Trayvon was shot by another person.
Get a watermelon take it out to the curb and drop it from about the level of your head. Look at the skin. Now take the same watermelon down on your knees and start pounding it into the pavement a couple of times. Now take a look at it.
Zimmerman's account is a ing joke. As much as you lie I figure you could spot it easy.
That's a picture of a Mexican that has been beaten.
That is not.
Lol @ a watermelon as surrogate for a human head.
Mosquito bite
How many s ches were required? Oh yeah none. Even minor wounds bleed like if they are on the head. If it was severe it would have been a cascade of bloodMosquito bite
This is a head wound:
Its just to give a notion of the relative forces involved. Those wounds are not consistent with getting your head beaten into the pavement a dozen times. It didn't require a single s ch.Lol @ a watermelon as surrogate for a human head.
FOH with them baby scratches. didn't even require s ches. his mommy n daddy probably put some rubbing alcohol and covered it with a bandaid.Mosquito bite
I once hit the back of my on pavement (from a standing position) and was knocked unconscious. I had no cuts and required no s ches.
That's more whiplash than impulse contact.
Have you ever had someone grab your head and slam it into a curb a dozen times like Zimmerman claims was done to him?
yea either Tray and Zimmerman were play fighting or Tray was really really really really reaalllllllly weak.
How can you punch someone more than a dozen times, bash their head into concrete multiple times, to the point that it feels like your head is about to burst and only have 2 minor scratches that didn't require medical attention? something isn't right with that picture
bull . birther supporting another liar. lol
George should have checked the back of his head before shooting.
in' true that. The whole thing was a set-up on OJ, too much shady went down that day...a little too convenient given how he got caught up in that in the first place.
As for Zimmerman, that cracker lied his ass off on Hannity. I thought he was telling the truth this whole time, but his lawyer better not put that soft cracker ass on the stand unless he wants to get roasted during cross-x. The defense is better off keeping Zimmerman far away from the stand and not trying to make it look like an emotional decision he made to start watching the neighborhood cuz his wife watched some other get robbed. Ughhhhhh.
I change my vote to manslaughter, fo' sho.
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