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Clock is ticking... Kevin Martin will need to compromise if he's got any chance at getting that ring. I don't think there's cap space for him in any of the contending teams next year.
On Minnesota sports talk they seem to think it will happen. They are supposedly negotiating set points that reduce Minnesota payment by X amount if he signs a 2017 contract for y amount.
Clock is ticking... Kevin Martin will need to compromise if he's got any chance at getting that ring. I don't think there's cap space for him in any of the contending teams next year.
Well, midnight of 3/1 happened already. They might mean 11:59 p.m. today, but the next midnight is on 3/2. I'm not arguing that Martin or anyone can't still be eligible for the playoffs if they're waived today. I'm just saying ESPN should be more careful.
Same exact thing.
So is NBA = ed yet?
So is the deadline tonight or has it already passed. I thought it ended 12am Tuesday, which means that it has passed.
Yeah, but the CBA FAQ seems to imply that they mean after 3/1, which means they have until 11:59 p.m. today. Again, ESPN miswrote the time, but they probably also mean today is the last day.
Are you a center because i love your post work!!
I'll be downtown this afternoon anyway. I will stop by the target center and get this all wrapped up and broker a deal. Or get thrown out for demanding to see wolves mgt while wearing a Spurs jersey.
You are losing me tbh...
on your first post you said Spurs would bring him for Beli role and said I'm not against the signing but he's not a rotation player... nobody ever said nowhere that Martin would play in the starting five or big minutes... what do you mean by rotation player ? a dude playing 10-15 mpg is a rotation player, isn't he ?
For 10/15 mpg Martin is clearly a rotation player and a solid one. You are saying he is not so I guess you consider a rotation player is a starting 5 dude ? call him a starter then. If your point is to say freaking Martin is not a starter caliber, then we all agree mate.
As I said Minny is overusing him and he is a bad 22 mpg, 9 FGAs and 23.5 % usage dude. Cut that by half and you get a solid rotation player vet wing giving you a bit of flex.
Sign him and give him West treatment, 17 mpg, 5 FGAs and < 20% usage rate and call it a day
By "Midnight Tuesday" it is quite obvious they mean Tuesday night (11:59 pm). This is common sense. When you talk to somebody and tell them "hey let's meet at midnight on Monday", you definitely aren't telling them to meet Sunday 11:59pm, you're telling them to meet Monday 11:59pm. No need to be so "technical"
Here is a better reference for you guys:
"Players must be waived before 11 p.m. central Tuesday in order to remain eligible for another team’s playoff roster."
Source: http://www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/With-The-Professor-NBA-s-most-6862054.php?t=36c8bee898bc83a41f&cmpid=twitter-premium
There's not a conflict there. I said: " I imagine if the Spurs do want to sign Martin and give him minutes, they would give him the Beli touches. " So I projected the role that I felt PATFO would have in mind for him. Then I explained why I don't think that would work. Yes, 10-15 MPG is a rotation spot, and no, I don't think he'd be good in that. The Spurs should go three wings as the first priority in the playoffs with Mills, Anderson and Butler contributing some minutes depending on the situation.
As I said Minny is overusing him and he is a bad 22 mpg, 9 FGAs and 23.5 % usage dude. Cut that by half and you get a solid rotation player vet wing giving you a bit of flex.
And as I said, I don't believe it's that simple. Martin's problem isn't that he's playing too much. It's that he's not a great off-ball player (and the Wolves, being a better team, aren't letting him have the ball in the situations he likes). He's limited in where he can spot up from, and if he doesn't have the ball in his hands, it harder for him to draw fouls. The specifics of his game matter, and that's why it's not accurate to compare him to West, who's not being asked to do anything he didn't already do in Indy but only for him to do it in fewer minutes and with better teammates.
That's all well and good, but there's not thing obvious about what midnight Tuesday means. I personally have to schedule for my job, and saying that DOES actually mean 12:00 a.m. this morning, not tomorrow. I understand the colloquial nature of the term, but a press company usually tries to be unambiguous if at all possible. That's why they still write out anterior cruciate ligament when 99 percent of the people either know what ACL means or don't care anyway.
On a serious note...If all you say is true. Put yourself in the Spurs shoes..why do they want to sign him if he's bought out?
Either :
1. They're not interested.
2. They think he could help more than Bonner.
3. They're making a mistake, which is normal for all FOs. This same FO thought that spending a million dollars on Jimmer for 2 cameos in pre-season was a good idea.
Haha, I understand your point
The Buck Harvey article posted in the Manu injury thread gives the best answer to your question.
This is literally a T-Mac signing. Insurance for Manu
He's better than an injured Bonner. He could help rest guys during the regular season. Same thing with Miller.
It's not a "mistake" (in the sense that it doesn't have any consequences except make the ownership $1m "poorer"), it's just a team in a "win now" mode trying to do whatever it can to get the right pieces to win a ring.
It's not like the FO is handing out crippling contracts out of desperation, hurting the team and franchise long term, going into luxury tax, etc. The Spurs are already a juggernaut, they only need to get marginally better, and to do so they are spending marginal assets (a 2nd round pick, a couple millions dollars).
Are you a center because i love your post work!!
I would be more useful than Bonner at this point.
I like Matty and all...but he appears to be done at this point. He's hardly played all season, his three-point shot (his defining skill) has waned, and he hurt his calf in the last game shooting a routine three-pointer. He wasn't even hit or anything.
His greatest contribution is his locker room presence, which he could still provide as an assistant if the Spurs were to waive him.
Tmac was younger....and id kill for a pair of his Spurs shoes right now.
so you are ok with Spurs signing him but not to be a rotation player of 10/15 mpg ? so he should be signed for what ? coaching ? playing 5 mpg ?
after you continue with the claim he's not a great off ball player or better when not assisted based on what data ? he has better efficiency when he creates his own shot vs. catch and shoot ? I don't think so
Yea I was mistaken. My bad. But in my defense, Paul Garcia reported it incorrectly
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