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    The backlash will be bad. I mean it's something that we don't even want to talk about at this time out of respect for pop and his family, but the backlash will be really bad if he doesn't even show up to the funeral services.

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    The backlash will be bad. I mean it's something that we don't even want to talk about at this time out of respect for pop and his family, but the backlash will be really bad if he doesn't even show up to the funeral services.
    On the other hand, maybe pop doesn't want a black cloud at the funeral. Honestly i think pop may bar all players to avoid over crowding or publicity.

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    On the other hand, maybe pop doesn't want a black cloud at the funeral. Honestly i think pop may bar all players to avoid over crowding or publicity.
    Pop is not gonna bar players.

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    On the other hand, maybe pop doesn't want a black cloud at the funeral. Honestly i think pop may bar all players to avoid over crowding or publicity.
    He is a very private person with his family life, so that isn't out of the question. Though I think their will be some type of Wake for friends of the family.

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    Don’t expect to see him at the game. He may give his condolences to Pop privately. I think Kiwi is avoiding the media. In reality he should be behind the bench at the home games but nothing surprises me about Kiwi anymore.

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    Don’t expect to see him at the game. He may give his condolences to Pop privately. I think Kiwi is avoiding the media. In reality he should be behind the bench at the home games but nothing surprises me about Kiwi anymore.
    I hope at the very least that's what Kawhi does. It would be beyond shameful if he didn't.

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    I’m going to absolutely lose it if this turd doesn’t show up to the game to support Pop and the team tonight. I hope my TV screen can survive me hurling the remote at it.

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    He brought up Joe Rogan because on his podcast a while back mentioned he had stem cell treatment on his shoulder and was amazed at how quickly and effective the injury recovered.
    BigPharma isn't gonna let widespread stem cell treatment happen here. They'd lose billions.

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    Don’t expect to see him at the game. He may give his condolences to Pop privately. I think Kiwi is avoiding the media. In reality he should be behind the bench at the home games but nothing surprises me about Kiwi anymore.
    We should give him the benefit of the doubt, though maybe that is foolish of me. Surely, he has the decency to show some love for his coach of 7 years. And I'm sure he will/has.

    I'm not sure what will happen this offseason on so many levels. Does pop come back to coaching at all? Will Kawhi return? Only if pop returns? Only if Parker is moved or retires? Etc.

    Right now though, I figure we should all try to be a little less judgmental about the specifics of the private dealings between player and coach.

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    BigPharma isn't gonna let widespread stem cell treatment happen here. They'd lose billions.
    Neither will BigReligia. The most effective and least differentiated stem cells come from fetuses.

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    Neither will BigReligia. The most effective and least differentiated stem cells come from fetuses.
    That was true 10 years ago, but not now. My cousin, one of the leading doctors in regenerative medicine told me that they can get adult stem cells to do pretty much anything a stem cell from a fetus can do. The arguments against stem cells are fading fast.

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    Faults probably is a no go for both sides IMO; Philly has invested in him and being able to keep him and see how he pans out would be a positive in a trade involving Kawhi while there is just a big question mark about whether Fultz can ever get back to his pre injury shooting form.

    Covington has to be in the trade to make the math work but if you take out Mills, J. Anderson doesn't have to be included.

    2 picks (10, and 26) and 2 draft rights prospects in addition to two good, youngish NBA players is a good return but there are question marks (surrounding the picks and prospects) that wouldn't be immediately answered for several years.

    Boston may lowball in a offer for Kawhi, like you mentioned, because Tatum and Brown both look good at such a young age. I don't think that they would be willing to offer Tatum, the Kings and the Grizzlies picks for Kawhi
    They are set up to contend for the better part of the next 10 years, at least, moving those assets makes them legit contenders now but with a smaller window.


    I've been on the record saying that I prefer a potential package from Phoenix but they lost out on the Bucks pick. I would be legit curious if they ended up with the 2nd pick would they be more willing to move it and would an offer for the 2nd and 15th pick, 31st be enough to get PAFTO to at least seriously consider moving Kawhi.
    Fultz would be an automatic on both sides. You don't trade a superstar without getting back someone with star potential. A collection of role players and middling draft picks isn't going to cut it.

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    Fultz would be an automatic on both sides. You don't trade a superstar without getting back someone with star potential. A collection of role players and middling draft picks isn't going to cut it.
    Is there a comparable player to Fultz? I haven't watched him at all. The only thing I remember is "tall PG with a broken jumper who went to UW" and we already have one of those.

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    Is there a comparable player to Fultz? I haven't watched him at all. The only thing I remember is "tall PG with a broken jumper who went to UW" and we already have one of those.
    ...who plays stellar defense.

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    Is there a comparable player to Fultz? I haven't watched him at all. The only thing I remember is "tall PG with a broken jumper who went to UW" and we already have one of those.
    Last year, Harden was the most common reference. Fultz was thought to be a pretty good shooter until after he was drafted and developed what appears to be a mental block.

    Obviously, that would make him a risk, but he's a significantly better prospect than Murray (athleticism, speed, quickness, handle, passing/vision), who it would make sense to trade, in this scenario.

    If he can overcome the mental block and become so much as a decent shooter, he's probably the highest ceiling prospect they could conceivably acquire. But, Tatum, Brown and maybe even Ingram, have a higher floor and the first two definitely have star potential in their own right.

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    Fultz would be an automatic on both sides. You don't trade a superstar without getting back someone with star potential. A collection of role players and middling draft picks isn't going to cut it.
    Fair.

    Kawhi

    for

    Faultz, Saric, Covington,

    and probably two of the following; 10th pick, 26th pick, Parseckniks, & Bolden


    would be a great haul.

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    Last year, Harden was the most common reference. Fultz was thought to be a pretty good shooter until after he was drafted and developed what appears to be a mental block.

    Obviously, that would make him a risk, but he's a significantly better prospect than Murray (athleticism, speed, quickness, handle, passing/vision), who it would make sense to trade, in this scenario.

    If he can overcome the mental block and become so much as a decent shooter, he's probably the highest ceiling prospect they could conceivably acquire. But, Tatum, Brown and maybe even Ingram, have a higher floor and the first two definitely have star potential in their own right.

    Haven't watched him play either, how do you think he'd fit with Murray?

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    I don't know that Murray is a guy to build around. You'd have to see how he looks next season. If he remains offensively challenged Spurs will have to reduce his role. Him not able to stay in the floor in the playoffs when guard play has been so bad tells you something.

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    Please note: This article is a opinion piece, w/ no actual reporting done. This entire opinion piece is just repeated verbiage we’ve heard over and over... I wish people would stop writing on this as if they have new breaking news. Just click bait really about 98% of everything out there....

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    I don't know that Murray is a guy to build around. You'd have to see how he looks next season. If he remains offensively challenged Spurs will have to reduce his role. Him not able to stay in the floor in the playoffs when guard play has been so bad tells you something.
    Spurs fans not know much about basketball

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    Like the kid but he needs to make dramatic improvement on his outside shooting including 3 ball. If he doesn’t then he is going to give his starter position to White.

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    Like the kid but he needs to make dramatic improvement on his outside shooting including 3 ball. If he doesn’t then he is going to give his starter position to White.
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    Like the kid but he needs to make dramatic improvement on his outside shooting including 3 ball. If he doesn’t then he is going to give his starter position to White.
    I like Murray but I can't wait for White to take over. Tired of this team not having any real threat from outside 10 feet.

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    Fair.

    Kawhi

    for

    Faultz, Saric, Covington,

    and probably two of the following; 10th pick, 26th pick, Parseckniks, & Bolden


    would be a great haul.
    This is how I think it would breakdown . . .

    - Fultz
    - One of Saric or Covington (with Spurs preferring former and 76ers preferring latter)
    - One of 10 and 26 (if Spurs got way with Saric, 26; if 76ers got way with Covington, 10)
    - One of Luwawu-Cabarrot, Parseckniks, Bolden

    Haven't watched him play either, how do you think he'd fit with Murray?


    Even if Fultz can rediscover his jumper (would think Spurs only do this with belief he could), he'll still be best utilized on ball, which means it's highly unlikely him and Murray would ever be a fit together offensively.

    Murray is not a good enough prospect to pass on Fultz because of some similarities. Fultz would need to be prioritized and it would make sense for Murray to be traded.


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    Even the local media are assuming he's gone. I am dispirited I have to admit.

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