Derrick White trade looking worse and worse every day

[Fireball]

Congrats to the Celtics and Derrick ... now I am at least a bit interested in watching the Finals!

[C-Dub]

Congratulations to Udoka as well!

[cjw]

Boston also ate $52M on the remainder of his contract. Most teams would charge YOU assets for that, not send any along in the deal. Derrick was a #29 pick, and we got a sure asset of a #25 pick. The pick swap,and assets for JRich are more nebulous, but possible, still.

While Boston was underperforming early in the season, the Spurs didn’t know that they’d surge to the fifth best record (three way tie). They probably pinned this pick closer to where the Raptors ended up.

But getting two late firsts out of White, Thad and an early second is fine in my book. Plus a swap and Richardson in return. Not bad.

I like White, but this was fair value if not excess value.

[jjspur]

Congrats to former spurs Udoka, White, and Hardy. They have proven to be great complimentary







pieces who rose to the top. Boston was smart to figure that out.
Boston vs. Golden State is going to be a match made in tv ratings heaven.

[Seventyniner]

The 2028 pick swap is what tells me the Celtics were the side motivated to get the deal done. That's a of a risk for them to take, albeit a remote one.

[CGD]

The 2028 pick swap is what tells me the Celtics were the side motivated to get the deal done. That's a of a risk for them to take, albeit a remote one.

It will be immaterial if they win this chip. All worth it regardless if they end up coughing up 3rd pick in that distant draft

[CGD]

Congrats to former spurs Udoka, White, and Hardy. They have proven to be great complimentary







pieces who rose to the top. Boston was smart to figure that out.
Boston vs. Golden State is going to be a match made in tv ratings heaven.

Indeed, BOS needed that winning Spurs DNA to make it happen.

[CGD]

Congrats to the Celtics and Derrick ... now I am at least a bit interested in watching the Finals!

Huge boost for spurs program. If they trade other young guys they can tell them with credibility they send folks to winning situations

[slick'81]

Skip bayless roasting pop for destroying derricks confidence

[D-Robinson 50 fan]

Skip bayless roasting pop for destroying derricks confidence

Skip is a loser who doesn’t know what he is taking about with the SPURS.

[Chinook]

Probably not. I said for months before the trade that the Spurs could get a first round pick for White whenever they wanted. That's what they got, a late first in a week draft, a young bust and a vet for another season plus a phantom pick swap. Couldn't even get expiringe to have Max caproom without machinations.

For what it's worth, the pick swap is in 2028.

Maybe they can get a couple of seconds from a team with a big enough trade exception for Richardson

Yeah, I wanted them to wait until the draft to pull the trigger on a White trade. But unless I knew that Derrick would be enough to have the Spurs make the playoffs, I'm okay that they didn't. It might have improved their pick a bit more to have him, and they were able to give quality minutes to Primo and Vassell as a result of the trade. I wish they didn't have to take back Langford -- it's basically like they never waived Samanic in the first place now -- but I do like Richardson and think he gives the Spurs option value to work more trades or to try to make the playoffs with an aggressive off-season. That's not nothing.

[exstatic]

Skip bayless roasting pop for destroying derricks confidence

Skip getting roasted and ratioed in turn.

[GAustex]

I am sure White is happy he is out of Pops show

[daslicer]

Skip is a loser who doesn’t know what he is taking about with the SPURS.

It's a slow news day. He has to manufacture bs to get attention and I say this as someone who doesn't like Pop.

[RC_Drunkford]

I'm not convinced we received enough assets to make this deal worth it. Essentially, we got the 25th pick in the draft, a one-year rental of Richardson, a rehab project in Langford, and a pick swap in 2025 (that may not even be used if we finish with a better record than them). Is that enough compensation for Derrick White?

lol they massively overpaid

[John B]

Skip is a loser who doesn’t know what he is taking about with the SPURS.

Skips probably an ST poster. This is where you find those Pop haters

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Skip bayless roasting pop for destroying derricks confidence

Uncle started blowing Skip evidently and giving him insider neph tidbits (skip knew all about his injury first of all ppl) to get him to back off roasting him on his show everyday, now he's dogging Pop every chance he gets. Skip went from lambasting nephew at each opportunity he could to praising him.

Too funny it's so transparent. What a stooge that guy is.

[DAF86]

You can always tell the posters that analyze basketball on a superficial level from those that see beyond the obvious, by looking at which players they support/criticize.

Always be on the other side of guys that criticize players like White or Poeltl, tbh.

[Chinook]

You can always tell the posters that analyze basketball on a superficial level from those that see beyond the obvious, by looking at which players they support/criticize.

Always be on the other side of guys that criticize players like White or Poeltl, tbh.

Eh, both Derrick and Jakob are worthy of their levels of criticism and skepticism. I think a lot of people go overboard -- especially on White. But I also think it'd be foolish to not admit their useful but limited players.

It's like how the Spurs arguably won the Bertans trade just by not being tempted to give him a huge contract. He did some good things and had decent stats, but his limitations and at ude issues became glaring, and he is one of the worst contracts in the NBA as a result.

[R. DeMurre]

You can always tell the posters that analyze basketball on a superficial level from those that see beyond the obvious, by looking at which players they support/criticize.

Always be on the other side of guys that criticize players like White or Poeltl, tbh.

Brad Stevens & Ime saw Derrick clearly for the role of 6th/7th man/defender/connector, and it has worked out perfectly for them. Every & any metric you could possibly look at says it's a successful pairing. It'll always be a <what if?> situation with the Spurs, where Kawhi stays, Dejounte improves, and other moves are made, but in a similar scenario he'd probably do the same for that What If Spurs team. I agree though, it is amazing that there are still people absolutely convinced that Josh Richardson is the better player. A guy who has been traded from 4 consecutive playoff teams. The Celtics could win a championship this year with White in the positive for every impact stat imaginable, and there would still be people who say he sucks he only scores 12 points per game. , even if they don't win a chip, it's a successful year! They're in the finals.

[talkspurs]

Eh, both Derrick and Jakob are worthy of their levels of criticism and skepticism. I think a lot of people go overboard -- especially on White. But I also think it'd be foolish to not admit their useful but limited players.

It's like how the Spurs arguably won the Bertans trade just by not being tempted to give him a huge contract. He did some good things and had decent stats, but his limitations and at ude issues became glaring, and he is one of the worst contracts in the NBA as a result.

how would you say we won the bertans trade instead of just not resigning him the next summer?

[slick'81]

[Spurs Homer]

Good for white - he goes to the Finals!

Good for the Spurs - for all the reasons already mentioned...

I am not holding my breath - but it would be REALLY REALLY nice if D White plays out of his mind and helps the Celtics beat those gs gots!

[DAF86]

Eh, both Derrick and Jakob are worthy of their levels of criticism and skepticism. I think a lot of people go overboard -- especially on White. But I also think it'd be foolish to not admit their useful but limited players.

It's like how the Spurs arguably won the Bertans trade just by not being tempted to give him a huge contract. He did some good things and had decent stats, but his limitations and at ude issues became glaring, and he is one of the worst contracts in the NBA as a result.

I'm not saying White or Poeltl are perfect players. I'm saying that folks that think Richardson or Mo Bamba are better players than them, aren't good at analyzing players.

[Chinook]

how would you say we won the bertans trade instead of just not resigning him the next summer?

Because they didn't have to deal with the temptation of re-signing him. He's basically identical to McDermott statistically over the past three seasons, and he's owed $11M-$22M more. Should the Spurs have just used the MLE on Carroll and then tried to rope Boston and Brooklyn into a deal for Morris? Yes. They might well have gotten Marcus to sign given that they would have had extra money to offer, and they would have avoided the extra dead money on Carroll's salary. But as time has gone on, I've been increasingly glad they got rid of Bertans and didn't get saddled with that $80M/5 contract.