Toronto is not a lottery pick next year. The 16th pick this year will likely be better than next year's Toronto pick.
Really not sure about that. If he's projected in that area, he's probably in, like most young guys nowadays. I know I would. A 16th pick gets about 9M of guaranted money + rest of career... A severe injury in college and he won't make a tenth of that in his entire life in any other job... If he believes in himself he'll just cash in big his next contracts, not that 9M isn't already big...
A player who won't even project as late lottery will absolutely stay in and get a top 10 next year, without a doubt. Your scenario never happens.
Absolutely?
Again stating your opinion as fact. Very few guys will return if they can get into the first round.
Edit: wrong thread
Lol. Go find a time when a freshman slotted to go later than lottery decided to actually stay in the draft. Jesus, man, this isn't science fiction. You can't just make up. He gets NIL money anyway.
Only way he stays in the draft is if he blows up in the rest of the year or he somehow gets a lottery promise.
Yeah I think last year Terquavian Smith was pretty much going to to between 16 to 24 - I think his group was wanting him to go much higher and he decided to play another season. As of right now most mocks have him going about the same range or a little worse.
Not a fact, it's a prediction. And I'll bet you it comes true. They have had injuries this year.
AJ Griffin Drafted 16
Trevor Keels 42
Jaylin Williams drafted 34
Max Christie
Bryce McGowans
There are many players
Last edited by rascal; 02-13-2023 at 10:24 PM.
Then how are there more than 14 players staying in the draft every year?
I mean late first round why not, although I stiil believe most first round projected guys will enter the draft no matter what, but I have a hard time believeing most who project as around 16 will stay in college nowadays.
Last edited by JPB; 02-13-2023 at 10:37 PM.
What kind of question is that?
Keyonte George has been an 0-fer today if only on three shots. Seven boards, seven assists, three steals, three TOs. I like him, but am super wary of such inefficient players, especially combo guard types.
Our own Branham and Wesley, among a million others.
Branham was markex by many to go in the lottery. Wesley was tabbed there too, but really he just wanted to go into the league.
Hood-Schifino might stay in, but he's only scratching the surface and won't do himself any favors unless he really comes on. I don't see Branham or Wesley going top 10 if they stayed for another year. I do with JHS. That's the point.
Lottery means a lot more to the teams than the players. It means that they have a shot at a top 4 pick. The reality for the players (except for the status of being able to say I was a lottery pick) being drafted 14th or 30th makes little difference. The salary for the 14th pick last year was $3.9 million. The salary for the 20th pick was $2.9 million. The salary for the 30th pick was $2.2 million. The reduction in salaries is very gradual. I would say it is a rarity that a player that thinks he is going in the 1st round anywhere drops out of the draft.
Second rounders are signing first round deals out the gate these days. 4 years guaranteed for Kennedy Chandler is a better deal than an underperforming late FRP as only first two years are guaranteed.
Not exactly true because Chandler is getting paid less per year ($1.2 mln) than the 30th pick ($2.2 mln). He has a team option at the end as well.
No 2nd rounder got a better deal than the 30th pick's, perhaps bar Nembhard.
So you are agreeing with me? Lottery is more important to teams than players.
Nah, all the main mock drafts were giving Branhan and Wesley after the lottery and many Wesley after 20.
Last edited by JPB; 02-14-2023 at 12:31 PM.
Don't remember what I wanted to say but didn't realize part of the post was missing. My bad.
Your correct no draft had them in the lottery but a lot of drafts had them going before we picked them I was kinda shocked we were able to land both of them
Chandler has ~5mm GUARANTEED over 3yrs. 30th pick has ~4mm guaranteed over two years with team options. Seems like that second rounder got a pretty good deal.
Branham was discussed in some areas as a top 10 guy potentially. And at least lottery. You're remembering wrong to satisfy your own narrative. Wesley was projected later but not after 20.
There always going to be exceptions to the rule also teams boards are different some have late second with a first round grade. Aa the saying goes “Should have put a Ring on It” and nothing says you really want a player by giving them an extra mill. Lol.
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