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    I am at the point to where I just want to see Victor do crazy . The season is over otherwise, except trying to get into a decent lottery spot. I checked, no one has come back from 5 and 28 to start and won the championship.

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    It's hard to grade Pop right now. It's clear the team is finally starting to get better. We're seeing a lot of legit defense played now. They're running plays for various guys. Wemby is getting high-quality touches. I feel much better about the players' ability to improve without major intervention now than I did a month ago. But you also have to wonder about if Wemby is starting to cash-out or something. I'm not too worried about him subbing himself back in -- Duncan did that. And we have no idea if Victor did the right thing but tearing up that play -- seeing as the one they ran didn't work. For all we know, Wemby ran up to console Jones because it was Victor's idea to give him the shot. So there are legit reasons to wonder if players are starting to rebel against Pop ... except on the court it really looks like they're starting to click with him.
    The play drawn up resulted in a wide open corner 3 for Tre, so in that respect I'd say it was a pretty good play design... but it just happen to be taken by a guy who is 1 for 11 from the right corner 3pt area for the season. Whomp whomp.

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    The play drawn up resulted in a wide open corner 3 for Tre, so in that respect I'd say it was a pretty good play design... but it just happen to be taken by a guy who is 1 for 11 from the right corner 3pt area for the season. Whomp whomp.
    A wide-open look from an abysmal shooter isn't a good play design. Again, I'm not saying they even ran whatever play Wemby thought they should. But Jones shouldn't've been on the court if the plan was to get a three. I believe the plan was to get Wemby a quick dunk, and Tre made perfect sense to be in for that, both because of his passing and because the Spurs would've immediately gone for a steal in that case, which is someone you want Jones in for.

    I kind of think that was an awkward place to even call a time-out though. The Spurs should've tried for a quick score, fouled and then used the time-out rather than stopping with so much time left to draw up a play.

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    A wide-open look from an abysmal shooter isn't a good play design. Again, I'm not saying they even ran whatever play Wemby thought they should. But Jones shouldn't've been on the court if the plan was to get a three. I believe the plan was to get Wemby a quick dunk, and Tre made perfect sense to be in for that, both because of his passing and because the Spurs would've immediately gone for a steal in that case, which is someone you want Jones in for.

    I kind of think that was an awkward place to even call a time-out though. The Spurs should've tried for a quick score, fouled and then used the time-out rather than stopping with so much time left to draw up a play.
    Victor post game said the play was supposed to get Devin a three but it didn't work

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    Last game Victor checked himself back in.

    This game he ripped up the play design for the last play.

    Next game he might just tell Pop stay at home I'll coach the team and play in the game.

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    Devonte would have made that three pointer in the corner.

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    Point Ausar tbh
    Not point Jarace Walker or Coulibaly?

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    what would things look like if we didnt hit the 14% lottery last year?
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    Point Ausar tbh
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    It's hard to grade Pop right now. It's clear the team is finally starting to get better. We're seeing a lot of legit defense played now. They're running plays for various guys. Wemby is getting high-quality touches. I feel much better about the players' ability to improve without major intervention now than I did a month ago. But you also have to wonder about if Wemby is starting to cash-out or something. I'm not too worried about him subbing himself back in -- Duncan did that. And we have no idea if Victor did the right thing but tearing up that play -- seeing as the one they ran didn't work. For all we know, Wemby ran up to console Jones because it was Victor's idea to give him the shot. So there are legit reasons to wonder if players are starting to rebel against Pop ... except on the court it really looks like they're starting to click with him.
    Regardless if the shot went in, the play worked damn well if that was what was drawn up. Deciding if a play is good or not based on whether or not the shot goes in is the wrong way to look at how successful a play is.

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    A wide-open look from an abysmal shooter isn't a good play design. Again, I'm not saying they even ran whatever play Wemby thought they should. But Jones shouldn't've been on the court if the plan was to get a three. I believe the plan was to get Wemby a quick dunk, and Tre made perfect sense to be in for that, both because of his passing and because the Spurs would've immediately gone for a steal in that case, which is someone you want Jones in for.

    I kind of think that was an awkward place to even call a time-out though. The Spurs should've tried for a quick score, fouled and then used the time-out rather than stopping with so much time left to draw up a play.
    Jones on a wide open 3 is at least a 30-35% shooter (I know he's sub 30% but that was a corner 3). There's virtually no chance the Spurs get better than that on a chance to tie there. You aren't going to tie very often. It's the nature of being down 3 against a superior team. Putting in a 3 point shooter doesn't dictate you get that same look with a better shooter.

    That's a wide open corner 3. I just don't see how any play is going to get anything that is better even with Tre shooting.

    EDIT: Ehhh, looking at at Tre's percentages over the past 2 year maybe you're right. He's not any better on corner 3s.

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    Last game Victor checked himself back in.

    This game he ripped up the play design for the last play.

    Next game he might just tell Pop stay at home I'll coach the team and play in the game.
    at this point I'd be perfectly ok with it.

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    New England just fired Belichick. Holt Jr. should pay attention here and learn something. You don't have to extend a "GOAT" coach into eternity, you are allowed to move on gracefully.

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    New England just fired Belichick. Holt Jr. should pay attention here and learn something. You don't have to extend a "GOAT" coach into eternity, you are allowed to move on gracefully.
    Belichick wasn't fired fwiw. I sure hope Pop isn't the kind that holds on for dear life until he is forced out, but I haven't really seen any evidence for that yet.

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    Belichick wasn't fired fwiw. I sure hope Pop isn't the kind that holds on for dear life until he is forced out, but I haven't really seen any evidence for that yet.
    "Mutually agreed to part ways" is code for "The coach agreed to resign because he was going to be fired if he didn't"

    Either way, I'm looking forward to Holt and Pop "mutually agreeing to part ways"

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    I always believed he'd stay with the organization forever but eventually move into a more advisory or operations type of role. I can't believe he's still out there calling plays.

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    New England just fired Belichick. Holt Jr. should pay attention here and learn something. You don't have to extend a "GOAT" coach into eternity, you are allowed to move on gracefully.
    After 2007 Pop has gotten one (1) Championship.
    That is one is 16 years. 9 of those years he had the true foundation of Spurs Championships, that being Duncan.

    I personally wish he would have been moved on in summer 2007. (Actually 2004 but hey we got 2005).

    Without either Duncan or Prime MVP level Kwa, he has been beyond bad. Now progressed into dumpster fire.

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    I always believed he'd stay with the organization forever but eventually move into a more advisory or operations type of role. I can't believe he's still out there calling plays.
    Out there calling plays is kinds subjective. That would mean he's coaching but he really doesn't seem to be doing much of that now.

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    didnt popa just sign a 80m contract? yeh u going to fire him to sit at home while collecting that money

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    didnt popa just sign a 80m contract? yeh u going to fire him to sit at home while collecting that money
    Per Spotrac, the contract is non-guaranteed. Don’t know how accurate that is though. My guess is there is some kind of pre-determined buy-out in there.

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    pop when he remembered that basketball teams usually play point guards


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    Even though the Spurs seem better at this point by doing what the rest of the universe already knew, Pop is still . Maybe I've settled down from firing him but I still support ting on him. Just imagine if the "GOAT" coach followed everyone's advice! We might be the 5 seed or something. For that.. Pop need's to still be on.

    He's just an old I guess. Now, if Biden could still be salvageable like perhaps Pop is. Doesn't look like it tho.
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    The fact that since making some obvious and simple lineup changes the Spurs not only just pass the eye test, but also improve greatly according to metrics, reinforces the fact it’s time for Pop to go.



    He’s done this being overly stubborn and arrogant his entire career but always had Tim and co. to bail him out. Now it’s getting exposed.

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    The fact that since making some obvious and simple lineup changes the Spurs not only just pass the eye test, but also improve greatly according to metrics, reinforces the fact it’s time for Pop to go.



    He’s done this being overly stubborn and arrogant his entire career but always had Tim and co. to bail him out. Now it’s getting exposed.

    what a stupid take

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    Even though the Spurs seem better at this point, by doing what the rest of the universe already knew, Pop is still . Maybe I've settled down from firing him but I still support ting on him. Just imagine if the "GOAT" coach followed everyone's advice! We might be the 5 seed or something. For that.. Pop need's to still be on.

    He's just an old I guess. Now, if Biden could still be salvageable like perhaps Pop is. Doesn't look like it tho.
    What is wrong with you people? You and moan about TDS. Then say the dumbest ing about Biden.

    Are you really so ing re ed that you cannot go on your favorite teams forum after a big win and just talk basketball? You have to bring it back to politics of all things? Knowing that people are just ing tired of people like you. No one wants to hear it? Just stfu and keep your dumb political beliefs out of it. Be a fan.

    You people are the absolute worst drag on society.

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