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    Day before FA is kind of lit, tbqh

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    Day before FA is kind of lit, tbqh
    There'll be a flurry of insta-announcements once the moratorium lifts, as everyone pretends they weren't negotiating this entire time.

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    Wagner and Nance are recovering from ACL injuries, shouldn't even be considered.

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    There'll be a flurry of insta-announcements once the moratorium lifts, as everyone pretends they weren't negotiating this entire time.
    Sounds like you just move slower than high performing alphas. These guys are in the Arena, thinking about the Roman Empire, hustlegrinding 24/7 so they can slaycrush complex NBA contracts in nanoseconds. This is what separates the men from the pissant internet posters like yourself. If you're not crushing half a case of white Monsters by 5a (after your cold plunge, obvs) then you aren't doing it right.

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    The thing the pro Collins crowd either isn't considering or is disregarding is, why would the Jazz want the extra season of Johnson, even with a 2nd(s) attached?

    They have plenty of draft capital as is and could gain more valuable ones by utilizing their projected '26 cap space as a dumping ground if they so choose.

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    The thing the pro Collins crowd either isn't considering or is disregarding is, why would the Jazz want the extra season of Johnson, even with a 2nd(s) attached?

    They have plenty of draft capital as is and could gain more valuable ones by utilizing their projected '26 cap space as a dumping ground if they so choose.
    They could take on Barnes instead. As good as Barnes was he is expiring and he is too slow to defend. Collins would be an upgrade on defense and rebounding etc…

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    Spurs really need to move on Collins. Utah is trying to get rid of him. Perfect opportunity to buy low on his expiring and get off Keldon's deal.
    They probably want Barnes’ expiring over Keldon’s 2 years.

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    Ainge is going for another season of top3 lottery odds.
    We should give him a hand, we have the perfect man for the job who guarantees traffic cone defense and inefficent offense.
    Keldon could reach the status of tank general in Utah.
    Thought you were talking Vassell

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    They probably want Barnes’ expiring over Keldon’s 2 years.
    I don't think it's that much of an issue.
    The only players on the books for 26-27 season will be Markkanen, Kessler if they extend him and rookie deals.
    Keldon's 10% of the cap at that point won't be an issue.

    And you can't take one thing away from him, he's a great locker room presence. Maybe that's just what they need, unless I missed something Markkanen isn't the leader type.

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    The thing with Dev is just that paying him that much money for a reduced out of position role doesnt make a ton of sense. But I digress. Keldon doesnt fit all that well anymore on paper.

    Barnes is older and expiring. There’s opportunity there to improve is all Im saying.

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    Alternatively, they just view every single player who isn't SGA/JDub/Chet as expendable. Caruso, Dort, all the way down to Sorber and Topic... all replaceable when the time comes. Flip them right before they get expensive to reload the warchest of FRPs and continue to cycle through guys.

    JDub hasn't qualified for the 30% max yet, but he'll likely have the language written into his deal. If he earns it, that would be great for the rest of the league. I still don't think Chet gets a 25%. For one, he isn't worth it (IMO) and he's missed half his time in the NBA on top of it.
    Yeah for the near future Sorber is the cheap Hartenstein replacement Topic is the cheap Cason Wallace replacement.
    Last edited by baseline bum; 06-29-2025 at 04:34 PM.

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    Boston will now be an unrestricted free agent.

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    I just dont get it - I see what you are saying and that’s my FEAR is that SA sees it like that. But Spurs have every chance to make trades while not sacrificing future at all and I think they should try harder and be more creative in trying to win some games.

    I am fine with Dev + Sochan, but especially with Dev and Keldon they don’t deserve minutes any more and they should be looking to trade improve and add for sure things that help the team like shooting + defense + back up big etc..
    Well, personally I think Spurs should trade Vassell. I agree with you that they should add a good forward.

    My point is that Spurs might not agree with you (and me) and that they may be right.

    It's not crazy, for example, to think that Vassell:
    - will be better physically next season after his foot surgery.
    - will be fine as an off the ball offensive player because that how he has been the best far.
    - is big enough to play SF.
    - can be way better defensively if he put a bigger emphasis on it.

    Adding a backup C and calling it an offseason isn't what I wish for but it might work.

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    Eventually, but for the near future Sorber is the cheap Hartenstein replacement Topic is the cheap Cason Wallace replacement.
    Yes, exactly. That's the model in work. Cheap FRP talent to replace the guys they can't afford anymore. They'll trade Cason Wallace for the picks that will eventually be used to replace Topic, etc... the cycle will continue.

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    I actually think Hawks would be a great team for Vassell.
    Trae is their only legit ballhandler and creator, Vassell would fit well, not to mention he's from that area.

    If we could get Okongwu from Vassell trade, that would be a huge W.

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    Well, personally I think Spurs should trade Vassell. I agree with you that they should add a good forward.

    My point is that Spurs might not agree with you (and me) and that they may be right.

    It's not crazy, for example, to think that Vassell:
    - will be better physically next season after his foot surgery.
    - will be fine as an off the ball offensive player because that how he has been the best far.
    - is big enough to play SF.
    - can be way better defensively if he put a bigger emphasis on it.

    Adding a backup C and calling it an offseason isn't what I wish for but it might work.
    But what about Keldon is this scenario? Is Dev proving he can play 3 and play defense ok enough consistently add shooting to the roster? Harper + Fox + Castle aren’t shooters. Keldon isnt a shooter. Sochan not a shooter. Back up big likely wont be a shooter.

    Saying, forgetting about end of bench and philosophy about building that, that even if Dev can play 3, his role is reduced, Keldon doesnt fit and team still lacks shooting right? So how is adding zero shooting and a back up big only justified?

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    Yes, exactly. That's the model in work. Cheap FRP talent to replace the guys they can't afford anymore. They'll trade Cason Wallace for the picks that will eventually be used to replace Topic, etc... the cycle will continue.
    I do think Dort has to be kept unless he gets a huge offer somewhere else since he's such a disgusting defensive player. Unfortunately he seems like the kind of guy to take less to keep winning rings just like Bruce Bowen did. Man OKC has set themselves up so nicely.

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    But what about Keldon is this scenario?
    Keldon is obviously the odd man out and the worst rotation player in every possible scenario.
    The only thing that's keeping him on the roster is that he's the vocal leader and a great locker room presence.

    Unfortunately for him, he simply has to go because with the addition of Harper his only semi-useful role of taking the ball and attacking the rim isn't available anymore.

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    I do think Dort has to be kept unless he gets a huge offer somewhere else since he's such a disgusting defensive player. Unfortunately he seems like the kind of guy to take less to keep winning rings just like Bruce Bowen did. Man OKC has set themselves up so nicely.
    If he takes a paycut... sure, otherwise he's replaceable. Gotta be ruthless with everyone but your top 3 in order to make the model work. You start making exceptions, and the next thing you know you've got an untouchable PoF on your team taking 33% of the cap.

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    More NBA from us: http://tinyurl.com/3nfhybht

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    Just In: The Cleveland Cavaliers declined the $2.55 million team option on Chuma Okeke, sources told Hoopshype
    . Okeke becomes an unrestricted free agent. He averaged 5.9 points and 5.2 rebounds in nine games total for the Philadelphia 76ers and Cleveland Cavaliers this season.

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    Keldon is obviously the odd man out and the worst rotation player in every possible scenario.
    The only thing that's keeping him on the roster is that he's the vocal leader and a great locker room presence.

    Unfortunately for him, he simply has to go because with the addition of Harper his only semi-useful role of taking the ball and attacking the rim isn't available anymore.
    And im not pre- ing and fully on board with the FO so far. I expect they make moves. Just have a little creeping fear they take foot off gas after being gifted pick 2. They have been so good last few seasons and want them to keep pedal down and being razor sharp and ruthless when it comes to smart value and improvements.

    Team can definitely be a playoff team this season with a couple strong FA moves/Trades

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    DFS would be a really nice option at the starting 4. Sort of an older and slightly poorer man’s PJ Washington. However it would take the full MLE which would mean Spurs would have to settle for a backup C with the BAE unless it’s via trade. I think using the MLE on a backup C and going for a bigger fish at the starting 4 via trade is a better option.

    He’s a solid upgrade over Barnes by way of way better defense. Shooting is equally good, rebounding equally as mediocre. He’s also 32 so could start to see a decline from here.

    Lakers would really be ed if he goes elsewhere though.

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    In a recent interview, Yabusele said other players had advised him to enjoy this moment. The FA is a rare moment in the NBA when you can enjoy this feeling of being wanted. (I would rather think that he will favor Philly. But since in America, you are only respected if you have a big contract, he must take it as much as possible.)

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    Kornet & Yabusele would be very solid acquisitions but historically Spurs rarely go out and get the names fans want. SA needs to do something so we will see

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