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    Note to coachmac. This article is fake.
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    True


    I hope he's as much of a pain in the ass for the Rockets as he was for us.
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    Yeah, so much for RC the genius.

    It'll also be interesting if the Rockets get past that buyout clause with ease and sign Scola for Bonner money.
    That is what I want to see- how the Spurs have claimed for three years that they could not get a proper buy out figure but the Rockets appear to have done it in three days.
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    BTW...not to interrupt the massive intellectual exchange within this thread...

    But does anyone know when the Championship DVD comes out?


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    That is what I want to see- how the Spurs have claimed for three years that they could not get a proper buy out figure but the Rockets appear to have done it in three days.
    But the front office would never misrepresent the truth...
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    That is what I want to see- how the Spurs have claimed for three years that they could not get a proper buy out figure but the Rockets appear to have done it in three days.
    exactly.

    here's how the phone conversation went:

    Houston GM: "So what will it take to get you over here?"

    LS: "What I've been asking for all these years! 3 years, 9-10 million."

    GM: *spittake* *cough cough* "That's it? What the ? You sure?"

    LS: "Si."

    GM: "Get your long greasy hair on a flight to Houston right now, we've got a press conference to arrange!"
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    BTW...not to interrupt the massive intellectual exchange within this thread...

    But does anyone know when the Championship DVD comes out?


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    Talk about overreacting. I know the Spurs got ripped off but it's a little early to be calling the Rockets the 2008 NBA champions.

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    Yeah, I did. I just wanted one of these ------>
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    oh that little insert of Spanish made me laugh
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    That was the best part.
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    Talk about overreacting. I know the Spurs got ripped off but it's a little early to be calling the Rockets the 2008 NBA champions.

    Hey remember i was first to pronounce
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    CRY ES!!!


    Rockets land Scola, deal Spanoulis to Spurs


    By JONATHAN FEIGEN
    Copyright 2007 Houston Chronicle


    LAS VEGAS -- The Rockets took their search for a power forward around the planet and found just what they wanted available down the road.

    The Rockets completed a deal to land forward Luis Scola, one of the stars of Argentina's 2004 gold medal winning Olympic team and twice the MVP of the Spanish league, sending guard Vassilis Spanoulis, a 2009 second-round pick and cash to the Spurs for Scola and reserve center Jackie Butler.

    Scola, a 6-foot-9, 230-pound forward that was the 56th player taken in the 2002 Draft, had become one of the most coveted unsigned players in the world, but became increasingly difficult to sign as he became the star of Tau Ceramica (Vitoria, Spain), one of the top traditional powers in Europe.

    The Spurs permitted the Rockets to talk with Scola, 27, in recent days and although contract negotiations were not permitted, Rockets general manager Daryl Morey was confident that Scola was ready to make the move to the NBA.

    ``We're planning to sign Luis,'' Morey said. ``He's excited to play in Houston. We expect to see him in a Rockets uniform next year. Luis is very motivated to come to the league and is very motivated to play with Yao and Tracy.''

    ``The Spurs gave us permission to speak with him about three days ago and we had a long conversation. It was very positive on both ends.''

    Teams are not permitted to make offers until the deal is complete, but the Rockets will likely have to offer between $3 million and $3.5 million for the first year. Morey would not discuss the parameters of the deal he has in mind.

    While the deal should bring the Rockets their power forward, it also could mean Spanoulis' freedom.

    Spanoulis and his agent, Miodrag Raznatovic, could not be reached on Thursday, but last week Raznatovic said Spanoulis would never play for the Rockets or any team in the United States. He even added ``They could trade him to San Antonio and he could be the starting point guard, and he would he would say, `No, I cannot.' ''

    Spanoulis played in 31 games last season, averaging 2.7 points and .9 assists in 8.8 minutes per game. He made 31.9 percent of his shot, 17.2 percent of his 3-pointers.

    Butler, a 6-10, 260 center, played in just 11 games with the Spurs, after he was acquired from the Knicks. Butler, 22, has averaged five points 53.9 percent shooting in 69 career games.

    Morey said the deal does not in any change the Rockets' intentions to sign both Chuck Hayes and Dikembe Mutombo, though with the little room likely left in the mid-level exception, the Rockets could try to sign Mutombo for the veteran's minimum.

    Butler has one guaranteed season, worth $2.35 million, remaining on his contract.

    ``Jackie is someone we wanted in the deal,'' Morey said. ``Obviously, we had a need at center. He'll have a shot to prove it.''

    But the prize in the deal was Scola.

    ``He has a pretty complete game in terms of an offensive skill-set, defensive integrity. He was MVP of the Spanish League, the best league outside the US, two of the last three years. He's been Euroleague first team which I would say makes him a top five player over the there.

    ``If I had to describe him, he's just a winner.''

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    So we'll see how much of the $6 mil they saved on this deal they actually put back into the roster.
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    So we'll see how much of the $6 mil they saved on this deal they actually put back into the roster.
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    Mission impossible 4 : trying to make this trade looking good :

    1) What was Scola's trade value ?
    Spurs have asked for more than one year for a first round pick and no team were ready to give up that for him.
    Reports were saying that teams have only offered a second round pick for him.
    Spurs didn't want to sign him (we will see if they were right about that later), other teams know that and weren't ready to give a lot for him.
    Scola for a second round pick is a fair trade.

    2) Butler ?
    Spurs wanted to get rid of him. His trade value wasn't high at all after a year on the bench. Dumping his contract was maybe the best thing Spurs could do with him.
    Butler for nothing is a fair trade.
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    Teams are not permitted to make offers until the deal is complete, but the Rockets will likely have to offer between $3 million and $3.5 million for the first year. Morey would not discuss the parameters of the deal he has in mind.
    There you go. 3 years starting at $3 mil works out to $9.9 mil total.

    Anyways, the Rockets already knew how much they'd have to offer before doing this deal. How long have the Spurs been lying about the buyout?
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    BTW...not to interrupt the massive intellectual exchange within this thread...

    But does anyone know when the Championship DVD comes out?


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    Mission impossible 4 : trying to make this trade looking good :

    1) What was Scola's trade value ?
    Spurs have asked for more than one year for a first round pick and no team were ready to give up that for him.
    Reports were saying that teams have only offered a second round pick for him.
    Spurs didn't want to sign him (we will see if they were right about that later), other teams know that and weren't ready to give a lot for him.
    Scola for a second round pick is a fair trade.
    Then sit on him instead of sending him to a rival.

    2) Butler ?
    Spurs wanted to get rid of him. His trade value wasn't high at all after a year on the bench. Dumping his contract was maybe the best thing Spurs could do with him.
    Butler for nothing is a fair trade.
    How about keeping him and giving him a shot next summer when you know spots will open up in the bigs rotation?

    But they wouldn't and there are six million reasons why.
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    Rockets fans must be ing pumped right now. Can you imagine? A week ago they were boggled that they drafted Aaron Brooks with their first round pick, they had traded away Juwon Howard for Mike James, their only other PF option in Chuck Hayes was unsigned, and they had guys like Carl Landry, Lior Eliyahu, and Anton Kavilauskas scrumming in summer league - decently, but not expertly - looking to help. They had no starter, no real depth.

    Then the ing Spurs gift wrapped them a player with game changing talent, who is cheap, and a solid backup center.

    Nuts. They won the lottery.
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    ``If I had to describe him, he's just a winner.''


    LOL
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    Mission impossible 4 : trying to make this trade looking good :
    You lost me at "good"
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    There you go. 3 years starting at $3 mil works out to $9.9 mil total.

    Anyways, the Rockets already knew how much they'd have to offer before doing this deal. How long have the Spurs been lying about the buyout?
    the Spurs through their mouthpiece Ludden haven't really been pushing the buyout issue for nearly 2 years, the last major push with it was when they signed Oberto over Scola. With the trade now that might change as they ramp it up a bit.

    The only people blathering on all this time about a huge buyout (or no buyout at all!) have been national writers (draft express) and spurs front office apologists/Scola-haters on message boards.
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    at spurs fans jumping bridge
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    the Spurs through their mouthpiece Ludden haven't really been pushing the buyout issue for nearly 2 years, the last major push with it was when they signed Oberto over Scola. With the trade now that might change as they ramp it up a bit.

    The only people blathering on all this time about a huge buyout (or no buyout at all!) have been national writers (draft express) and spurs front office apologists/Scola-haters on message boards.
    I thought there was a recent Ludden article that touched on how the buyout was still problematic.
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