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    Yahoo sports is saying a Boston and Memphis Gasol trade bears watching... I'm not sure what Boston would be giving up but, if they are looking for a big to put beside Horford we've got one that I'm sure we could send there way.
    Boston would not give up anything of value. Ainge is stingy

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    Would you trade Murray and a pick for Bradley/Crowder?
    In a heartbeat.

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    Which Spurs team is better 2009-2010 or 2017-2018?
    Who is going to guard roger money mason? Kawhi could only hope to contain him.

    The years with money mason on the team - I had no confidence in those teams come playoff time.

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    The Spurs need to offer their 2018 pick to Boston to absorb Avery Bradley's contract. Boston has to move one of Crowder, Bradley, or Smart to clear the capspace to sign Hayward, and Bradley's the one it makes sense for them to dump since they won't be able to afford him next summer with luxury tax considerations while Crowder and Smart are on really cap friendly contracts. Then if Simmons re-signs the Spurs could move Green.

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    Lol, Bradley. Dude was one of the worst defenders in the league last year. Why toss a third straight first at a guard (this one an expiring vet) AND surrender needed cap space to do something with the five-spot.

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    Lol, Bradley. Dude was one of the worst defenders in the league last year. Why toss a third straight first at a guard (this one an expiring vet) AND surrender needed cap space to do something with the five-spot.
    Is there anyone not named Danny Green that you actually like? You're what we call a "hater".

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    The Spurs need to offer their 2018 pick to Boston to absorb Avery Bradley's contract. Boston has to move one of Crowder, Bradley, or Smart to clear the capspace to sign Hayward, and Bradley's the one it makes sense for them to dump since they won't be able to afford him next summer with luxury tax considerations while Crowder and Smart are on really cap friendly contracts. Then if Simmons re-signs the Spurs could move Green.
    I like this. Could recoup some of the assets by moving Green. That said, are you more likely to keep Bradley in FA or Green? And at what price?

    Bradley is technically up for an extension now while Green isn't, but wouldn't make sense to move him to a higher cap hold.

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    Is there anyone not named Danny Green that you actually like? You're what we call a "hater".
    Pretty sure you'd call me an "odiador"

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    I like this. Could recoup some of the assets by moving Green. That said, are you more likely to keep Bradley in FA or Green? And at what price?

    Bradley is technically up for an extension now while Green isn't, but wouldn't make sense to move him to a higher cap hold.
    Green's up for an extension thanks to the new CBA.

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    Lol, Bradley. Dude was one of the worst defenders in the league last year. Why toss a third straight first at a guard (this one an expiring vet) AND surrender needed cap space to do something with the five-spot.
    The warriors are Bradley's ..i'd give up anyone but Kawhi for him.

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    The warriors are Bradley's ..i'd give up anyone but Kawhi for him.
    I'm sure Kerr is still smarting over that 14.5 ppg on 43-percent shooting Bradly put up on them last year.

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    Green's up for an extension thanks to the new CBA.
    Thanks. Thought it was only after third anniversary of signing a deal. Or is that not the case if there's a player option in year 4?

    People around the league (and some on this board) are realizing how F'd a bunch of teams are heading into next offseason. Cap space will all get eaten up by rookie extensions and a lot of teams will be pushed well into the tax. Smart of the Spurs not to go into the tax until 2019. Also, players coming off contract next year will be hampered by having a lot less suitors. Could keep cost of Green and LMA down (if even interested in bringing back or coming back).

    Take Minnesota for instance. They have one more year of cheap Wiggins and two more of cheap Towns. Come 2019, they'll be paying Teague $20.4 and could be giving Butler/Towns at least $30mm each (Towns should qualify for higher max) and Wiggins $25mm. The Celtics will be really far into the tax unless they recycle vets for younger pieces by then.

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    I'm sure Kerr is still smarting over that 14.5 ppg on 43-percent shooting Bradly put up on them last year.
    ok yeah..let's go to the numbers everyone!!! "See I made a point guys!!"

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    Pretty much what PATFO did to Spurs fans so far this off season

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    Thanks. Thought it was only after third anniversary of signing a deal. Or is that not the case if there's a player option in year 4?

    People around the league (and some on this board) are realizing how F'd a bunch of teams are heading into next offseason. Cap space will all get eaten up by rookie extensions and a lot of teams will be pushed well into the tax. Smart of the Spurs not to go into the tax until 2019. Also, players coming off contract next year will be hampered by having a lot less suitors. Could keep cost of Green and LMA down (if even interested in bringing back or coming back).

    Take Minnesota for instance. They have one more year of cheap Wiggins and two more of cheap Towns. Come 2019, they'll be paying Teague $20.4 and could be giving Butler/Towns at least $30mm each (Towns should qualify for higher max) and Wiggins $25mm. The Celtics will be really far into the tax unless they recycle vets for younger pieces by then.
    TBH, I'm still waiting for the CBA FAQ to be updated, but ESPN said last year that three-year deals can be extended after the second year for up to 120 percent of the previous contract or the MLE. But I'd like to see exactly what it takes to qualify a) and b) If guys on four-year deals like Covington are eligible for a similar contract

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    ok yeah..let's go to the numbers everyone!!! "See I made a point guys!!"
    You can't say a guy who hasn't done against GS is their dom. That's especially true because you're assuming he'd be the second-best player against him when he'd be terrible.

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    The Spurs need to offer their 2018 pick to Boston to absorb Avery Bradley's contract. Boston has to move one of Crowder, Bradley, or Smart to clear the capspace to sign Hayward, and Bradley's the one it makes sense for them to dump since they won't be able to afford him next summer with luxury tax considerations while Crowder and Smart are on really cap friendly contracts. Then if Simmons re-signs the Spurs could move Green.
    LOL at thinking a late 2018 1st round pick will be enough to get Bradley. Smart will be the one who is traded.

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    I would definitely take Smart too.

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    You can't say a guy who hasn't done against GS is their dom. That's especially true because you're assuming he'd be the second-best player against him when he'd be terrible.
    He actually would be though. The best player against them is a given, then assuming we traded LMA and or Green..who'd be next in line? Patty? I mean do we even have anyone on the current squad that averages over 10 a game against them minus Kawhi?

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    I would definitely take Smart too.
    For a pick, I'd prefer Smart, though again, I'd wish the team hadn't spent two firsts on PGs in back-to-back seasons. Smart was a legit good defender with great switching potential (dude shut down Millsap, for example), as opposed to Bradley, who was so bad on D that he graded out as worst than Parker and Patty by a significant margin.

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    He actually would be though. The best player against them is a given, then assuming we traded LMA and or Green..who'd be next in line? Patty? I mean do we even have anyone on the current squad that averages over 10 a game against them minus Kawhi?
    LMA averaged 24ppg against the Dubs in games Kawhi played in. Green's already on the team and doesn't require a pick to play.

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    For a pick, I'd prefer Smart, though again, I'd wish the team hadn't spent two firsts on PGs in back-to-back seasons. Smart was a legit good defender with great switching potential (dude shut down Millsap, for example), as opposed to Bradley, who was so bad on D that he graded out as worst than Parker and Patty by a significant margin.
    You don't actually believe that though do you? I mean, have you watched Parker and Patty defend??

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    LMA averaged 24ppg against the Dubs in games Kawhi played in. Green's already on the team and doesn't require a pick to play.
    Are we really going to sit here and pretend that those 24ppg meant anything? Where were those 24ppg games 2-4??

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    You don't actually believe that though do you? I mean, have you watched Parker and Patty defend??
    Bradly was that bad last year. I would hope it was a blip or quirk like with Kawhi, but dude's been in decline on D since 2014.

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    Are we really going to sit here and pretend that those 24ppg meant anything? Where were those 24ppg games 2-4??
    Sure had no chance in those games, so who cares? Second bananas don't have to be great when the top guy gets cheap-shotted out of a series. LMA played well in games where the team actually had a chance to win. If he keeps that up, he'll be a much better play against GS than Bradley

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