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At the risk of being called a dumb , I came away underwhelmed by Coward’s athleticism, particularly his agility. It doesn’t look like he moves his feet well side to side.
Cool, draft him into your high jump team. Edgecombe actually uses his capabilities on the court. Coward is fine. Go jack him off if you want.
At the risk of being called a dumb , I came away underwhelmed by Coward’s athleticism, particularly his agility. It doesn’t look like he moves his feet well side to side.
I agree with you, you dumb .
I'll give an example. Amare Stoudemire looked amazingly athletic, but his lateral movement was very poor. Being able to jump high doesn't always mean you're a great athlete. There's more to it than that.
Lane Agility Time:
Coward - 10.97 seconds
Edgecombe - 11.27 seconds
Harper - 11.07 seconds
Shuttle Run:
Coward - 3.02 seconds
Edgecombe - 2.93 seconds
Harper - 3.05 seconds
3 Quarter Sprint:
Coward - 3.06 seconds
Edgecome - 3.20 seconds
Harper - 3.16 seconds
Starting to think about PHO as a potential Derik Queen landing spot... I think I kind of like it for them (and not in a sadistic kind of way, but in an actual basketball kind of way)
Agree. He can be a really interesting high post and secondary facilitator on a team with no real point guards at the moment.
I wouldn't say Castle can "easily" play SF. He has size and strength advantages at the point and 2 guard spot. Bump him up to SF and he is just guarding and trying to score on players his size or slightly larger. At the guard spot Castle could be a really good player. At SF he is just another SF who can't shoot.
People talk about if they can improve their shooting they can play together...the issue is that the majority of guards who come into the league and can't shoot...never actually become good shooters. To say that Castle and Harper are both going to learn to shoot, and they need to be able to shoot enough that teams will actually guard them and create space, is a bit of a reach. Add to that the spurs being just a bad shooting team in general and unless significant changes are made in coaching and training I don't see either one ever being that good of a shooter. It's historical data for a reason.
I think power forward is completely off the table for the Spurs as they are not going to do anything to disrupt pet cat Sochan minutes. No way they bring in a power forward to compete with him, his already fragile ego would shatter into a thousand pieces and he'd go back to having an even more ridiculous hitch in his shot if they did.
That's it: I'm drafting Coward at #2.
That Harper kid seems pretty good for a player not touted as one of the better athletes in this class.
But Amare was a great athlete. He was a top big in the game until his knees and thus athleticism went away.
Lol, did you even read what you're responding to?
I know a guy who had an awful head injury in a car wreck to the point he can't talk longer than 5 minutes without suffering nosebleeds that get so severe he has passed out from loss of blood...
100% positive that guys brain works better than yours.
goodness this site makes me laugh sometimes
I agree that we shouldn't be taking away Castle's size advantage, but he's got enough size for most SF matchups.
Ideally Harper/Castle are close to all-star level within 3 years and Fox gets moved.
There are levels to it.People talk about if they can improve their shooting they can play together...the issue is that the majority of guards who come into the league and can't shoot...never actually become good shooters.
I don't follow college basketball, but Castle was advertised as almost a Sochan level non-shooter.
But he's shown big improvements over the course of the season. And I'm not talking about percentages, but his willingness to take 3pts on the move, off the dribble and a few steps behind the line.
I've said it many times, the gap between a non-shooter (Sochan in this case) and a bad shooter (which Castle definitely is) is bigger than the gap between a bad shooter and a good shooter.
As for becoming good shooters, that's on Spurs shooting coaches who have been subpar over the past years.
Dejounte didn't even have a jumpshot when he entered the league, he was shooting floaters from the 3pt line.
Derrick's shooting was also rough and Celtics fixed during the first summer after the trade.
We don't need them to be better than 33-35% if we get legit wing shooters.To say that Castle and Harper are both going to learn to shoot, and they need to be able to shoot enough that teams will actually guard them and create space, is a bit of a reach.
OKC just won with their 3 best players shooting 28-30% from 3pt in the playoffs.
If that's the case, we're ed and there's nothing to talk about.I think power forward is completely off the table for the Spurs as they are not going to do anything to disrupt pet cat Sochan minutes. No way they bring in a power forward to compete with him, his already fragile ego would shatter into a thousand pieces and he'd go back to having an even more ridiculous hitch in his shot if they did.
But I don't think it's the case. To me it was obvious Mitch wanted to reduce his role, but didn't have the authority because he was the interim.
We'll have no room to around in the upcoming season and Sochan can't play that much unless he makes miraculous jumpshot improvements.
Fox is an all-star.
Castle is the ROTY.
Harper is the #2.
All of them are way higher on Spurs priority list than Sochan, we can't accomodate a 4th year player who made no improvements over the past 3 years just because he's a Rodman cosplayer.
Kinda crazy when you think about it, he's made so little improvements in his nba careerI agree that we shouldn't be taking away Castle's size advantage, but he's got enough size for most SF matchups.
Ideally Harper/Castle are close to all-star level within 3 years and Fox gets moved.
There are levels to it.
I don't follow college basketball, but Castle was advertised as almost a Sochan level non-shooter.
But he's shown big improvements over the course of the season. And I'm not talking about percentages, but his willingness to take 3pts on the move, off the dribble and a few steps behind the line.
I've said it many times, the gap between a non-shooter (Sochan in this case) and a bad shooter (which Castle definitely is) is bigger than the gap between a bad shooter and a good shooter.
As for becoming good shooters, that's on Spurs shooting coaches who have been subpar over the past years.
Dejounte didn't even have a jumpshot when he entered the league, he was shooting floaters from the 3pt line.
Derrick's shooting was also rough and Celtics fixed during the first summer after the trade.
We don't need them to be better than 33-35% if we get legit wing shooters.
OKC just won with their 3 best players shooting 28-30% from 3pt in the playoffs.
If that's the case, we're ed and there's nothing to talk about.
But I don't think it's the case. To me it was obvious Mitch wanted to reduce his role, but didn't have the authority because he was the interim.
We'll have no room to around in the upcoming season and Sochan can't play that much unless he makes miraculous jumpshot improvements.
Fox is an all-star.
Castle is the ROTY.
Harper is the #2.
All of them are way higher on Spurs priority list than Sochan, we can't accomodate a 4th year player who made no improvements over the past 3 years just because he's a Rodman cosplayer.
But he's only 21! And did you see the latest workout video?!?
if you are trying to paint amare stoudemire as anything other than a resounding success you are doing something wrong
We have to be fair and admit that he got the short end of the stick in multiple seasons.
First with that point guard experiment and then as a backup big.
He's a wing and can't play any other role.
But his lack of shooting was the main reason for him getting moved to different roles.
I just can't be optimistic about his shot because he didn't make any improvement over three seasons with no pressure to win.
I'm sure Wright won't go into the summer relying on Sochan's miraculous jumpshot improvement, we can't risk it.
Keep him, but he needs to show he's worth an extension, he's not an integral part of the project anymore.
I’m the biggest Cedric Coward fan here but even I will tell you he is not the quickest side to side athlete. He got beat a lot off the dribble then made up for it with his length. He is an elite post defender because of his strength but still has strides to make as a perimeter defender. He is average at best on ball. I think he can make massive improvements though because he has never really had great coaching or been on a defensive oriented team.
No, I'm serious here. The guy said that Amare didn't have great lateral mobility despite being able to jump high, then you rushed in to shout: but he could jump high!
Like, five year olds aren't this illiterate. What's up with you?
What are the rumors ?
There's plenty of tape of him recovering on excellent weak side blocks. His length gets him nice steals in passing lanes. But there's plenty of tape of white dudes in the Sky conference blowing by him. It's definitely a concern. He could catch up to some of them, but in the NBA those are posters.
His block percentage is pretty good, btw, but his steal rate was really surprisingly low. Not sure if that was scheme or not. He didn't get many steals.
Mainly just Givony from ESPN, but he's been mocking Beringer to us for a while now and reports that there's interest on the Spurs' side.
I wouldn’t mind Beringer, feel like it’s smoke tho
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