trump impeachment watch thread

[Winehole23]

Gonna go back to Borderlands 3, tbh, but gonna also ask this:

Are Republicans really this short sighted? You know that sooner or later, he won't be the prez anymore, and all this is going to air out. This country will likely have a Democrat president again, potentially with *all* the executive power this guy pretends to have, including being unchecked.

Yep, but it also goes for Dems.

I got no traction with this point during GWB's administration, nor with Obama's.

The growth of the executive power and the surveillance state since 2001 have been radical. If we end up with authoritarianism it will not be because we elected a bad man, it will be because we have placed unaccountable power in his hands.

[Spurtacular]

I still remember some peeps saying Obama was plotting to have a third term... (lol Wild Cobra, D'Souza, etc). You don't think this guy is way, way more prone to angle for something like that?

Establishment worshiped Obama. If anyone in recent memory had a chance at that, it was him.

Obviously, people like you are desperate to reverse the narrative though and create a false equivalency.

[Winehole23]

Bush-Obama-Trump is a continuum. Each stands on the shoulders of his predecessor.

[boutons_deux]

Trash claims that Pelosi is no longer the Speaker of the House ??? WTF

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-KEFW5nETQ&t=611s

[ElNono]

Establishment worshiped Obama. If anyone in recent memory had a chance at that, it was him.

Obviously, people like you are desperate to reverse the narrative though and create a false equivalency.

'Reverse' what narrative? Only a couple of loons came up with that re ed conspiracy, completely baseless.

Some of you guys need to pick a lane. Obama was this far leftist or establishment?

Obama was no more 'establishment' than any of his predecessors, and none of them clearly advocated for such a thing.

[ElNono]

Yep, but it also goes for Dems.

I got no traction with this point during GWB's administration, nor with Obama's.

The growth of the executive power and the surveillance state since 2001 have been radical. If we end up with authoritarianism it will not be because we elected a bad man, it will be because we have placed unaccountable power in his hands.

Agreed. You will find posts of mine from those eras stating the same.

[Spurtacular]

'Reverse' what narrative? Only a couple of loons came up with that re ed conspiracy, completely baseless.

Some of you guys need to pick a lane. Obama was this far leftist or establishment?

Obama was no more 'establishment' than any of his predecessors, and none of them clearly advocated for such a thing.

Not exactly divorce factions.

[Winehole23]

Not exactly divorce factions.

Ok

What do you mean by "establishment"?

[spurraider21]

You omitted the next sentence, where he clearly invites him to talk to his personal laywer, his attorney general, about the Bidden.

Because you didn't quote it doesn't mean I didn't post it or it didn't happen. People here can read all of our posts.

tsa hasn't come back from this one

[Winehole23]

tsa hasn't come back from this one

Won't stop him next time.

Selective/misleading quotation is a TSA specialty.

[ElNono]

Not exactly divorce factions.

pretty much divorced. How do you reconcile the proletariat message of the far left with the alleged plutocracy of the establishment?

[Winehole23]

He released his own phone convo.

He also called people who cooperated with the investigation "spies" and said that in a better world, they would be executed.

Like you do when you're innocent.

[Winehole23]

pretty much divorced. How do you reconcile the proletariat message of the far left with the alleged plutocracy of the establishment?

Our far left capitalist overlords

[ElNono]

His government was pretty much right of center, and closer to the establishment... despite any rhetoric to the contrary...

[Winehole23]

There's not, at least with respect to Trump.

Ah, yes, I see the GOP Russiagate conspiracy is still going strong:

[Spurtacular]

pretty much divorced. How do you reconcile the proletariat message of the far left with the alleged plutocracy of the establishment?

The leaders of the far left are ultimately statists.

[ElNono]

The leaders of the far left are ultimately statists.

Which is completely at odds with the idea of what's normally inferred as 'the establishment' (a few plutocrat elite that control everything).

If anything, the doctrine of the far left is to take everything away from the rich/elite.

[hater]

Gonna go back to Borderlands 3, tbh,

Wise decision ma niga

[ElNono]

Wise decision ma niga

Prolly gonna take Adam t 3 months to impeach anyways...

[LkrFan]

[baseline bum]

Gonna go back to Borderlands 3

Link's Awakening is where it's at right now tbh

[hater]

Link's Awakening is where it's at right now tbh

How is it compared to breath of d wind?

[boutons_deux]

If anything, the doctrine of the far left is to take everything away from the rich/elite.

what bull

Even if that were true, taking "everything away from the rich/elite." and investing it For The People would be wonderfully superior to the "rich/elite" currently taking away everything from the non-rich/elite.

eg, health insurance is now $20K/year, with group insurance members paying $6K ($500 / month buys a fantastic vehicle)

[baseline bum]

How is it compared to breath of d wind?

Pretty much the exact opposite of BOTW. It's more like A Link to the Past.

[TheGreatYacht]

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