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    It's been rumored that Bogut is available as well. We know that Bogut is better than Bonner and Blair, and Splitter, at the moment (we don't know how good Splitter is yet, so Bogut could be better or not in the future too).

    Interesting, although I'm not sure what the Bucks would want and if the Spurs want any part of Bogut.

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    I doubt the Spurs would keep Miller in this deal. His value is his fully unguarenteed contract if he's waived by the 29th.

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    Alex Kennedy - 06/22/2011 10:43pm EST-

    The San Antonio Spurs and Portland Trail Blazers nearly completed a blockbuster trade on Wednesday afternoon, but the deal fell apart in the late stages. San Antonio was prepared to ship Tony Parker and the #29 pick to Portland in exchange for Andre Miller, Nicolas Batum and the #21 pick, but the trade died when the Spurs insisted that Richard Jefferson somehow be included in the deal. Other players would have been included in the trade to make salaries work. Talks have quieted for now, but they could pick back up tomorrow if one of the teams has a change of heart.
    For the love of ING GOD... GET GREG ODEN INVOLVED IN THIS DEAL. Give them whatever they want. Hill? Done. Blair? Done. Hill and Blair? Gone.

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    This is some bull from the F.O. if true. Just flat out bull .

    I called re-signing RJ as a death blow right as it happened.
    Well I wanted Rj back because I didn't think we had any other options and I legitimately thought he would improve.

    I was right about him the first month of his first season with the Spurs and wanted him traded in November that season. Only one of a few people that wanted him gone immediately.

    I was wrong about him last season though. Should have just went with a minimum salary player last season. You guys were right about that.

    I was right and then I was wrong. Stupid stuff.

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    Charlotte is open to dealing. I posted about it in the Hill thread, but it could work with Parker.

    a charlotte media blog talking mentioning the "Parker on the block with Jefferson" rumors under their "draft night eve quick thoughts" for the bobcats

    One trade I'd consider that works under the old trade rules

    Parker + Jefferson + 29

    for

    Augustin + Jackson + Diop + 9.

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    For the love of ING GOD... GET GREG ODEN INVOLVED IN THIS DEAL. Give them whatever they want. Hill? Done. Blair? Done. Hill and Blair? Gone.
    Oden is a restricted free agent. Portland may let him walk, which would allow the Spurs to sign him if possible. I'm all for signing Oden to a contract with lots of incentives and minimal guaranteed money. Take a flyer on a young, athletic big man who has one leg longer than the other and may never amount to anything? Why not, if he cost the team little to nothing.

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    Oden can't be traded until he has a contract.

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    Oden is a restricted free agent. Portland may let him walk, which would allow the Spurs to sign him if possible. I'm all for signing Oden to a contract with lots of incentives and minimal guaranteed money. Take a flyer on a young, athletic big man who has one leg longer than the other and may never amount to anything? Why not, if he cost the team little to nothing.
    Right. I mean a sign and trade situation. And there's no way in they'd even get him for the full MLE.

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    Tony, Richard, 29 for Bogut, Maggette and 10th pick.

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    Tony, Richard, 29 for Bogut, Maggette and 10th pick.
    Why would the Bucks want RJ back lol.

    That would be like the Spurs trading RJ right now and then trading back for him a few months later.

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    Tony, Richard, 29 for Bogut, Maggette and 10th pick.
    The Bucks wouldn't fall for that. Remember, the Spurs were the team that "fleeced" the Bucks for Jefferson.

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    Tony, Richard, 29 for Bogut, Maggette and 10th pick.
    Works on the ESPN Trade Machine..

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    Tony, Richard, 29 for Bogut, Maggette and 10th pick.
    Why would they do that deal when arguably their best player plays point guard?

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    Why would the Bucks want RJ back lol.

    That would be like the Spurs trading RJ right now and then trading back for him a few months later.
    Crap. I just remembered that's where the Spurs got him from..

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    The only way the Bucks would take RJ back is if he has some mystical power that guarantees the Packers winning another Superbowl next season if he is on the basketball team.

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    Why would they do that deal when arguably their best player plays point guard?
    Because their best player is not better than Tony Parker. I saw Jennings play, and he had some moments. But no matter how much some of you all hate Parker now, Jennings is not better than him.

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    Why would the Bucks want RJ back lol.

    That would be like the Spurs trading RJ right now and then trading back for him a few months later.
    Not really but ok.

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    Because their best player is not better than Tony Parker. I saw Jennings play, and he had some moments. But no matter how much some of you all hate Parker now, Jennings is not better than him.
    Parker is better, but that's not the point. A kindergartener could analyze that deal and come up with the same conclusion I did; laughter.

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    I heard a podcast where Chad Ford stated the the Bucks FO believes that the team is a playoff contender. Parker would show the fans that the FO is serious about getting to the playoffs, being that Parker is a better player.

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    I heard a podcast where Chad Ford stated the the Bucks FO believes that the team is a playoff contender. Parker would show the fans that the FO is serious about getting to the playoffs, being that Parker is a better player.
    It's the East, I'm sure they do. They're also in the business of selling tickets, so even if they didn't, they would say that.

    Again, it's absolutely laughable to think that they would trade for Tony Parker, given that their best player currently plays the same position.

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    Tony, Richard, 29 for Bogut, Maggette and 10th pick.
    Seeing as how Bogut and Maggette are better overall than RJ and Tony and the 10th pick is 19 selections higher than ours, why the would the Bucks do this?

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    Seeing as how Bogut and Maggette are better overall than RJ and Tony and the 10th pick is 19 selections higher than ours, why the would the Bucks do this?
    lol I don't even think the Bucks would trade Bogut for Parker straight up.

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    Seeing as how Bogut and Maggette are better overall than RJ and Tony and the 10th pick is 19 selections higher than ours, why the would the Bucks do this?
    If Bogut is better than Parker, then the Bucks best player doesn't play the same position as Tony.

    Either way, if Jennings in the Bucks best player, what does that say about the team that Tony is better than Jennings. Again, I'm not saying the Bucks do this, but not because of Jennings. Tony is a better player, and if Jennings is the Bucks best, then it stands that the Bucks could be better with Tony. Talent is talent, and talent that has championship hardware is much more valuable than an up and down PG.

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    , these deals just keep getting worse and worse. I half expect Parker to get traded to the Lakers for Luke Walton, Derek Fisher, and the #58.

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    That's like saying that the Spurs wouldn't trade a player for Chris Paul because Tony is a PG as well. It doesn't matter what position Tony plays, if you can get a better player at the position, then you do it and worry about what to do with the position later.

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