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Those Iraqi children weren't innocent though! They had terrorist dads! Or maybe they were at a family gathering where a cousin was a terrorist... or maybe it was collateral damage. Who cares? They were born already, and that's the important part.
Why should you? Well because your contribution might actually make a difference to prevent the cold hearted murder of some of those precious innocent lives you are so adamant in saving. It says a lot that your devotion to this thing you hold so sacred goes only as far as lip service paid from behind a computer keyboard.
Those Iraqi children weren't innocent though! They had terrorist dads! Or maybe they were at a family gathering where a cousin was a terrorist... or maybe it was collateral damage. Who cares? They were born already, and that's the important part.
And every war neoconservatives cook up
According to the bible neither one is justifiable. Supporting capital punishment is going against the bible no ifs ands or buts about it.
Then again, being against slavery is also going against the bible
Apparently it's a sin to be born and once you're a sinner, game on mother er!!!!
Did we get to "only baby mamas get abortions" yet?
well, it is going against the bible except where the bible commands you to kill people.
"KILL IT! KILL IT! DRAIN ON SOCIETY!"
It's coming...
sinners don't count as people.
Carpet bombing is very libertarian.
Carpet bombing is very libertarian.
Oh it's actually perfectly compatible with their beliefs, even if they won't admit it. The abortion argument, while framed around their desire to protect innocent life, is really about justice for women who have sex. So from that POV, it aligns completely with their desire for justice on other "criminals."
If it were about innocent life, they'd be doing everything they can to equip people with the knowledge and ability to prevent unwanted pregnancies from beginning in the first place. Condoms in schools. Contraceptive education. Free birth control for everyone.
But they're so stuck in the mindset that sex is bad, and so disgusted by the reality that people have sex with people they're not ready to have kids with, that they would sacrifice those innocent lives in favor of a ridiculous hope that they can prevent people from having sex by telling them not to.
Exactly. "WE won't stand for an irresponsible "stupid " who can't keep her legs closed to murder an innocent unborn child! But once that kid is born, it can just starve to death because it's not our responsibility!" smh
"KILL IT! KILL IT! DRAIN ON SOCIETY!"
Yoni has been lurking in this thread for quite some time now.
It's also funny that all Mitt Romney has to do is say a few sanctimonious things that align with prolife views and every bible thumper out there is convinced he genuinely cares about banning abortion and saving unborn fetuses.
If you think Mitt Romney actually believes abortion is murder and think he will make an effort to reverse Roe v. Wade (ya know, since the last Republican president took so much action in the matter), there's some beach property in Nebraska you might be really interested in buying
People who still think Republican candidates care about ending abortion and don't just say stuff in order to pander to the religious right are clueless. Mitt Romney is about as pro-life as I am.
Ryan on abortion exceptions: Rape is just another ‘method of conception’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/08/2...=Google+Reader
IMO the "rape" exception is really just a cop out. I don't see any argument for allowing abortion as an exception for rape victims.
If it really is all about the innocent life inside a woman's womb, then why is the life created by rape any less sacred than the life created by consensual sex?
I honestly think it's an unnecessary tangent for both sides. If you're pro-choice, the primary issue is government interference on what is happening inside a person's body. If you're pro-life, it's about the law protecting the life inside of that person's body.
Pro-choicers using the rape scenario as an argument are giving credence to the idea that a woman somehow loses her right to control what happens to her body if she has unprotected sex. Pro-lifers giving exception to rape victims are basically putting unborn children in a class system where some are protected by law while others aren't.
Makes sense, tbh. Afterall, Rape gave us Jesus Christ, right?
You didn't rape that.
If you subscribe to the "sanc y of life" boondoggle, probably.
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