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    I would give 2 first round,but for Derrick Williams.
    In a heart beat yes!

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    they would trade booner to get ak47 if they had to

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    #NBA news: #Timberwolves give Pekovic $50 Mill and sign Corey Brewer; #Lakers bring back Jordan Farmar at discount: www.sheridanhoops.com
    I think the only way Minnesota can sign Brewer outright and still get Martin is to stay over the cap and S&T for Martin (Brewer gets MLE). I don't think they have enough cap space to sign both outright without a salary dump, and the Brewer signing was announced.

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    Why would the Spurs give up first rounders this year or the next when they know they will be rebuilding in two years and will need those draft picks? I understand one last charge for a le, but is Kirilenko the piece to put us over the top? Not sure he's worth giving up more than what we are offering without the draft picks. Second rounders, maybe, but the next draft is supposed to be deep.

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    I can see 1 first rounder but not 2... the way it looks they'd probably give up Green before they ever deal Bonner.
    Right. I should have clarified. 1 would be ok, imo. 2 is too much.

    Then again, I'm not an NBA GM.

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    Worst case in all of this is if the Spurs miss out on AK47 while OKC gets a trade exception for Martin.

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    I wonder if Bonner, Mills and De Colo plus a first rounder would be appetizing enough...
    It should be even more if Spurs send some cash to pay Bonner's salary.

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    Also, if the Wolves sign Pekovic now, they're definitely staying over the cap because Pek's first-year salary will be well above his cap hold. Thus they could keep AK's Bird rights and the S&T door is still open.

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    Somethings happening behind closed doors,this could be it.One can only hope.

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    Misko Raznatovic, agent for Nikola Pekovic, denied with a Twitter to Sportando that the big man is close to sign a four-year, $50M deal with the Timberwolves

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    Nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

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    Why would the Spurs give up first rounders this year or the next when they know they will be rebuilding in two years and will need those draft picks? I understand one last charge for a le, but is Kirilenko the piece to put us over the top? Not sure he's worth giving up more than what we are offering without the draft picks. Second rounders, maybe, but the next draft is supposed to be deep.
    1) Going for it now trumps having worse years later.
    2) Not having a 1st rounder the first year after Duncan/Ginobili means fewer wins and a better 1st rounder the following year.

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    Worst case in all of this is if the Spurs miss out on AK47 while OKC gets a trade exception for Martin.
    It creates the potential for OKC to do something more dramatic than what they're looking at. But using the TE would likely push them into tax territory - which they've treated as a hard cap thus far in the Presti era.

    I suppose they could use the TE to shore up the 2 guard, then amnesty Perk to get back under the tax - but then a lack of physical bigs would instantly become a weakness for them.

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    God dammit this needs to be resolved already. I come back a couple hours later and we still know nothing...its getting late in the day. Spurs have to be working something out

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    If that's on the table (at the very least, that's got to be very close to what the Spurs offered), if the Wolves are intelligent, they take that package. Sure, they don't need any of those three and none would be in their rotation, but they're all on expiring contracts, so they could either keep some or all for depth purposes or re-route them, as none would likely be difficult to move.

    In the end, they'd walk away with a 1st for their troubles and despite it coming from the Spurs, potentially a solid one, if it's next year's, because of how deep the draft is supposed to be, or in '16, when Duncan and Ginobili will likely have been retired for a year and the Spurs figure to be mired in mediocrity.

    Helping an elite team get better should be of no concern to them, as they have no chance at being on the Spurs level (health aside, of course) in the next 2 seasons either way.

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    No deal for any Spurs player has been confirmed.It could be we have much better cap situation than we all presume.

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    If that's on the table, if the Wolves are intelligent, they take that package. Sure, they don't need any of those three and none would be in their rotation, but they could either keep some or all for depth purposes or re-route them, as none would likely be difficult to move.

    In the end, they'd walk away with a 1st for their troubles and despite it coming from the Spurs, potentially a solid one, if it's next year's, because of how deep the draft is supposed to be, or in '16, when Duncan and Ginobili will likely have been retired for a year and the Spurs figure to be mired in mediocrity.

    Helping an elite team get better should be of no concern to them, as they have no chance at being on the Spurs level (health aside, of course) in the next 2 seasons either way.
    I don't think they see it that way. I think they blame their inability to compete for a playoff slot and more to the injuries they had last year (Love and Pekovic, etc.). They think their roster is right there to contend. That's why they made a move for Martin and Brewer. Those are not rebuild additions. That said, I don't think they are winning the le in the next two years, but they want to be a contender.

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    I don't think they see it that way. I think they blame their inability to compete for a playoff slot and more to the injuries they had last year (Love and Pekovic, etc.). They think their roster is right there to contend. That's why they made a move for Martin and Brewer. Those are not rebuild additions. That said, I don't think they are winning the le in the next two years, but they want to be a contender.
    Yeah, contend for a playoff spot, not the championship. No way they're that delusional.

    I realize that there's a pretty good chance these two could meet in the 1st round next season, but as I said, either way, so long as the Spurs are mostly or even reasonably healthy, they'd have zero chance at beating them. They'd be stupid to not take the pick.

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    So if Ridnour does get shipped to Milwaukee does that pretty much end all possibility of the Spurs getting AK?

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    Yeah, contend for a playoff spot, not the championship. No way they're that delusional.

    I realize that there's a pretty good chance these two could meet in the 1st round next season, but as I said, either way, so long as the Spurs are mostly or even reasonably healthy, they'd have zero chance at beating them. They'd be stupid to not take the pick.

    While they may have trepedations about helping a compe or, they obviously think Brewer is better or of better value than Kirilenko as they have chosen him over Kirilenko. I do think the draft pick would be enticing for many reasons. I'd just hate to give it up for a 32 year old Kirilenko who did have injury issues last year. I think he'd be great for the system, but I'm not sure he makes us better than Miami (although he might).

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    Andrei sucks

    move on

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    Why would the Spurs give up first rounders this year or the next when they know they will be rebuilding in two years and will need those draft picks? I understand one last charge for a le, but is Kirilenko the piece to put us over the top? Not sure he's worth giving up more than what we are offering without the draft picks. Second rounders, maybe, but the next draft is supposed to be deep.
    Spurs won't have a team anywhere near as good as they have now for a long time, they need to do what they can to win now before Duncan retires.

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    So if Ridnour does get shipped to Milwaukee does that pretty much end all possibility of the Spurs getting AK?
    The only thing that formally ends it is if Beli/Pend are signed with MLE and AK is renounced.

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    The Spurs need to find a third team to dump some salary, then give Minny a draft pick. That should do it.

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    The only thing that formally ends it is if Beli/Pend are signed with MLE and AK is renounced.
    ... or AK agreeing to terms with another team.

    But that's not happening, considering that he's going to be a Spur by the end of the day.

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