Why do you laugh?
Election-year divisions rock North Carolina’s GOP
Things could be better for North Carolina Republicans right now. After significant victories in 2012 and 2014, GOP policymakers are in a dominant position in the Tar Heel State, but as things stand, the right’s hold on North Carolina may not last much longer.
The debacle surrounding the anti-LGBT HB2 continues to haunt the Republicans who rushed the law through, and the consequences are likely to linger. Gov. Pat McCrory (R), who was apparently caught off guard by the entire controversy, continues to struggle with the mess he helped create.
Voters have noticed. A conservative group released a statewide poll on Friday that found
McCrory losing his re-election bid to state Attorney General Roy Cooper (D) by 10 points, 46% to 36%.
And while Mitt Romney won North Carolina four years ago, this same poll showed Hillary Clinton leading Donald Trump in North Carolina by 12 points.
Sen. Richard Burr (R), meanwhile, is also seeking a second term this year, despite a low approval ratingand a dwindling lead over his Democratic challenger.
Perhaps the state Republican Party can help calm the waters and get the GOP slate back on track? Not anytime soon they won’t: WRAL reported over the weekend that the state party just fired its own chairman.
Members of the North Carolina Republican Party’s nearly 600-memberIf North Carolina Republicans are hoping this reduces some of the intra-party pressure, they may be disappointed.![]()
member executive committee voted Saturday to remove Hasan Harnett as chairman, ending a months-long leadership struggle that focused GOP establishment on its own internal drama rather than campaigning against Democrats.
Executive Director Dallas Woodhouse made the announcement shortly after 5 p.m., saying that the proceedings had been “somber.” The committee found that Harnett was responsible for violating the party’s plan of organization and “gross inefficiency.”
As we discussed a month ago, party insiders didn’t want Harnett elected in the first place, but rank-and-file GOP activists ignored McCrory’s and Burr’s wishes. The conflicts arose soon after, escalating to the point that
Republican officials barred Harnett from his own party headquarters in Raleigh, right around the time they shut down his official email account.
I can’t say with any confidence whether Harnett’s ouster was fair, but the WRAL’s report noted that right-wing activists and North Carolina Tea Party leaders saw Harnett as one of their own, which means the weekend’s drama generated a fresh round of ill will.
Given that all of this is happening about six months before Election Day, the state GOP’s unraveling comes at a rather inconvenient time.
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow
DEE ING LISHIUS
I expect NC Repugs "turn up to 11" their tactics to disenfranchise for November.
Why do you laugh?
The headlines say:
Man Accused of Spying on Little Girl in Public Bathroom, Charged with Child Porn
Cliffs.
a. The 10 year old girl says he was spying on him.
b. But he has now been charged with possession of child pornography, after investigators who examined his phone said that they found several nude photos of his 16-year-old girlfriend.
http://insider.foxnews.com/2016/04/2...ged-child-porn
1. Agenda driven Faux News.
2. 16 year old. Really, this again?
Not sure if this was a Uni bathroom or if guy snuck in.
North Carolina transgender law violates civil rights law: U.S.
The Department of Justice told North Carolina's governor on Wednesday that a new state law limiting restroom access for transgender people violates the U.S. Civil Rights Act.
In a letter to Republican Governor Pat McCrory that was seen by Reuters, the Justice Department said the state was "engaging in a pattern or practice of discrimination against transgender state employees," and it had until Monday to address the issue.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-no...2F+Top+News%29
nearly $1B in Federal funding for NC schools in play.
Not that NC slave state Repugs GAF about schools or civil rights
Alabama city abandons law targeting transgender bathroom use
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-al...e=domesticNews
NC lawyers are really ty lawyers, as ideology and religion require. And as lawyers, they'll do whatever they're paid to do (with no repercussions) Their suit against Feds is full of
North Carolina Sues the Federal Government, Insists Anti-LGBTQ Law Is Legal
North Carolina first insists that le VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964—which bars sex discrimination in employment—does not afford any protections to trans people.
It labels the DOJ’s claim to the contrary a “radical reinterpretation” that would prevent the state from implementing a “common sense privacy policy” to protect “the bodily privacy rights of state employees.” This “baseless and blatant overreach,” the state declares, is “an attempt to unilaterally rewrite long-established federal civil rights laws.”
Some of this is erroneous; some of it is mendacious. Let’s separate the two.
First, the DOJ’s claim—that gender iden y discrimination is encompassed in a ban on sex discrimination—is only a “radical reinterpretation” of le VII if you ignore Price Waterhouse v. Hopkins, a Supreme Court decision from 1989. Price Waterhouseinvolved an employment discrimination lawsuit by a butch, masculine female employee. The court allowed her suit to move forward under le VII, reasoning that “sex discrimination” encompassed “sex stereotyping” and “sex-based considerations.” From this point onward, courts have generally followed Price Waterhouse’s command that “sex-linked evaluations” regarding masculinity, femininity, and adherence to gender roles are invalid under le VII.
Oddly enough, the North Carolina lawsuit doesn’t even mention Price Waterhouse. It does list a series of decisions—many from the pre-Price Waterhouse era—rejecting le VII suits on the basis of gender iden y discrimination. But it is misleading (at best) to include these cases without also noting the many judicial determinations that arrived at an opposite conclusion. For instance, the state’s complaint mysteriously omits Glenn v. Brumby, a 2011 decision by the 11th Circuit concluding that “discrimination against a transgender individual because of her gender-nonconformity is sex discrimination.” It elides a federal district court’s ruling that anti-trans discrimination is “literally” sex discrimination. It ignores a conclusion by the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission—the federal agency tasked with interpreting le VII—that sex discrimination encompasses anti-trans discrimination.
We could keep going, but you get the idea. The notion that an interpretation of le VII mandated by federal courts and the EEOC cons utes a “radical reinterpretation” of federal civil rights law is extraordinarily disingenuous. But what’s worse is that North Carolina fails to mention a ruling by the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals from April 19 explicitly agreeing that “sex discrimination” may be read to encompass discrimination on the basis of gender iden y. The Fourth Circuit’s decision involved a different federal law—one curiously unmentioned in Monday’s complaint—but hinged on virtually identical language about “discrimination because of sex.” North Carolina’s complaint does not even attempt to explain how the state plans to get around this ruling.
The complaint’s second charge is, somehow, far sillier. In its notice, the DOJ drew attention to the fact that the Violence Against Women Reauthorization Act (VAWA)explicitly bars gender iden y discrimination. North Carolina’s decision to explicitlylegalize gender iden y discrimination would seem to jeopardize about $5 million in federal grants authorized to the state by VAWA.
Make no mistake: This move is a Hail Mary, and it is destined to failure. The only question now is how much longer North Carolina will continue its doomed attempt to relegate trans people to second-class citizenship.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2..._save_hb2.html
North Carolina Republicans pressure lobbyists over HB2
WRAL in Raleigh, N.C., reported last night on an unexpected twist in the fight over the state’s controversial new anti-LGBT law.
While Republican state leaders have complained about being “bullied” by the federal government over House Bill 2, lobbyists in Raleigh tell WRAL News they and the businesses they represent are being bullied by state lawmakers seeking to silence business opposition to the new law.
Lobbyists say they’ve been told – either directly by legislative leaders or by lawmakers’ staff – that, if they or the businesses they represent speak out publicly against House Bill 2, they can expect retribution from House and Senate leaders.
Legislation they want won’t move, and other bills could actually target them.
One longtime lobbyist told WRAL that the pressure from elected officials is a “gross abuse of power,” while another veteran lobbyist added, “I’ve never seen anything like it.”
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-s...d=sm_fb_maddow
Repug Taliban telling business lobbyists:
"We gonna keep doing Christian Sharia in NC, so STFU. Christ told us to up NC, we don't care about businesses losing business"
Pat McCrory: Congress should ‘revisit the 1964 Civil Rights Act’ to allow segregated bathrooms
In fact, McCrory suggested that Congress should take a look at gutting the entire Civil Rights Act over the issue.
“I think there’s a time where the Republicans and the Democrats in this Congress need to revisit the 1964 Civil Rights Act, and revisit all this issue,” the first-term governor opined.
“Because these are complex issues and North Carolina for whatever reason politically has become the target by the left on this agenda.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2016/05/pat-...e+Raw+Story%29
Once a slave state, ALWAYS as slave state. Confederate crackas don't wanna sit on the same toilet seat as knitters.
Abbot STANDING strong for Christian Sharia hate
Texas Guv Ready To 'Fight Back' For North Carolina Anti-LGBT Bill
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) on Thursday said that he will support North Carolina in its legal battle with the federal government over the controversial new anti-LGBT law.
"I am working with the governor of North Carolina, and we are going to fight back," Abbott said during his speech at the Texas Republican Convention.
He lamented that "Obama is turning bathrooms into courtroom issues."
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...+%28TPMNews%29
6 straight posts with no response and over a week since anyone else posted anything.
This thread has been boutons'd. RIP.
The Great Boutons doesn't need responses to this posts. They are self validating. G F Y
With the directive sent out from the Justice Department to all public schools instructing them to allow transgenders to whichever bathrooms they want how far is "identify" going to be pushed. Can and adult identify as a child?
"excuse me sir did you know she was only 14?"
"it's okay Chris, I identify as a 15 year old"
![]()
This is akin to "what if somebody wants to marry their dog" as a counterpoint to gay marriage
This is about choosing iden y, not ing your dog.
If I don't have to identify with the gender on my birth certificate, why do I have to identify with the age on my birth certificate?
i know its not exactly the same thing. it's why i said "akin to." its still just a slipper slope argument, though.
do you recognize the difference between gender and sex?
Yes.
Why can you accept a choice of gender iden y and not a choice of age iden y?
a) bad wording, its not a choice
b) because gender is subjective and age is objective
It sure the is a choice now. I can choose to identify with any gender I want and use any bathroom freely. No one can tell me what gender I identify with, and no one can prove I am not identifying with the gender I claim.
Age iden y is also subjective, ever heard the term old soul![]()
you could lie and "say" you identify is a woman. that doesn't mean you actually do.
you could also come on here tomorrow and say you've decided to become gay and enjoy sucking s. i dont think it would be true though
Of course it doesn't mean I actually do, but you can't prove I'm lying and I can access a women's bathroom any time I want. Take advantage man, these are good times. I wish I was back in high school I'd have a field day.
whoops but this one is no secret so no biggie.
at least you now realize that its not the same as "age iden y" or whatever that was you were suggesting
You woulda been a total hit with the ladies.
There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)