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    Looking at this, I'm pretty convinced Tmtcsc is right. It sounds like the Spurs are being nice by saying that they are "perplexed" by how long it's taking him. They don't want to talk bad about him and are showing him max respect, but if true, darn Kawhi, I thought you were much tougher than this.

    However, the other side of the coin is, Kawhi might really know his body better than the Spurs and their medical team, and if he did come back at the behest of the Spurs, he could get injured again, or make the injury much worse and ruin his entire season. I'm thinking something similar to Karl Malone in 2004, I think the Lakers doctors screwed up his rehab or diagnosis for the knee injury he got earlier in the season and he was out longer than he should have been, then in the playoffs, that injury popped up again and basically ended their season. I'm NOT complaining about that one, though .
    Yea, at this point, I prefer he wait. I also remember was it Penny Hardaway and Grant Hill? They will not push him. Besides the team is doing ok. It's been a soft schedule and they will hit rough paths, but so far have defeated the teams they are supposed to.
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    After extending Aldridge the Spurs don't have the contracts to trade for Marc Gasol, but Cleveland have a lot to work with, especially including that Brooklyn pick.

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    Gasol would be the perfect Spur tbh. But as the poster above stated, we don't have the pieces to make a realistic trade work. CLE or some other 2nd tier team would be a good option though. I don't think he's in Memphis at the start of next season.


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    Green and Mills contracts works. Heck they could even ask for Anderson or Bertans. But I think this small ball line up is really working for us. Having Leonard would put us right near the top. I just dont think two traditional bigs would these days. Heck even Pelicans are not dominating with the two best bigs in the game. And our guards would be probably worse without Green and Mills. And yes we would still have Leonard and Gay. Anyway it's a big risk with moderate reward to trade for Marc.
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    Spurs already have two traditional bigs and play them together some, but not all game, and they are winning with lineups were they are staggered most of the time and sometimes Pau doesn't close a game. To add a third expensive big to those 2 doesn't make sense. For Marc, either Pau GAsol or Lamarcus have to go out in a trade.

    Also, for Memphis it doesn't make sense to trade for either guy.
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    No, I have no idea if it can get worse if he plays on it. The Derrick Rose comparison might be accurate. Leonard is as compe ive as it gets and you would think he would push himself to get out there and give it a go. That he hasn't, must really have the team spooked. I just want to know who his doctors are. Does he have his own or are the Spurs therapists working with him? What are they telling the team?
    I wonder why your source close to Spurs didn't tell you about that...Weird.

    Also, next time you see "your source" ask him why the team allowed Kawhi to train in the summer without restrictions or any other issue.

    Everyone with access to SDSU Jam saw him working every morning there with his trainer Randy Shelton. And some of those days with Jamaal Franklin, others with T.Cunninghan, both playing in China.

    This is something I would love to know...Since you have this source it would be nice to get an answer.

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    Looking at this, I'm pretty convinced Tmtcsc is right. It sounds like the Spurs are being nice by saying that they are "perplexed" by how long it's taking him. They don't want to talk bad about him and are showing him max respect, but if true, darn Kawhi, I thought you were much tougher than this.

    However, the other side of the coin is, Kawhi might really know his body better than the Spurs and their medical team, and if he did come back at the behest of the Spurs, he could get injured again, or make the injury much worse and ruin his entire season. I'm thinking something similar to Karl Malone in 2004, I think the Lakers doctors screwed up his rehab or diagnosis for the knee injury he got earlier in the season and he was out longer than he should have been, then in the playoffs, that injury popped up again and basically ended their season. I'm NOT complaining about that one, though .
    Like Spurs' doctors did with Kawhi's quad injury.

    Kawhi was working all summer, it's clear they thought his injury wasn't that serious. Like I've said before, the Spurs' medical staff made a big mistake in their first diagnosis approach and now...suddenly...they are perplexed.

    Doctors letting an injured player to aggravate his injury in the summer...I guess they wouldn't admit it, right?

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    Spurs already have two traditional bigs and play them together some, but not all game, and they are winning with lineups were they are staggered most of the time and sometimes Pau doesn't close a game. To add a third expensive big to those 2 doesn't make sense. For Marc, either GAsol or Lamarcus have to go out in a trade.

    Also, for Memphis it doesn't make sense to trade for either guy.
    Exactly. Grizz are in a bad situation but they can work for a better trade.

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    Would he say he was Rooked?

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    Would he say he was Rooked?
    I knew this was gonna happen.

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    I knew this was gonna happen.
    Low hanging fruit... guilty as charged.

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    Would he say he was Rooked?
    He tried to rook Marc Gasol

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    take that for data ..LeGMarc

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    Holy !

    Fizdale wanted to act like he was Pop; but last night he clearly overplayed his hand with the Gasol benching..

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    He tried to rook Marc Gasol

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    at fizdale firing.

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    Holy !

    Fizdale wanted to act like he was Pop; but clearly overplayed his hand with the Gasol benching..
    Yah, as precarious as their relationship was (per reports), he committed suicide w/ that move.

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    So Gasol is officially a "coach killer", but I'm sure he'll be given a free pass by the media because he's white. Instead, they'll pretend it's the 8 game losing streak that did him in. Don't buy it. Been on the job for only 1+ season and the team has maxed out in that time.

    Grizzlies need to stop treating Gasol and Conley as if they're Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and re-build; even if the goal is to continue to compete for the right to lose in the 1st round. As spursistan said, they could probably trade Gasol for Love, who's 3 years younger, plus Cavaliers 1st (not Nets pick) or Zizic or maybe both.


    If they're willing to do so for DeMonkey/Lou Williams I don't see why they wouldn't for Gasol/whoever the Grizz have cut from a similar vein.

    Clippers should trade Jordan, but not for Thompson, Frye and Cavaliers' 1st. Instead, for Gortat, Smith, Satoransky and 1st. They're all up a year earlier than Thompson, so they'd have greater financial flexibility.
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    So Gasol is officially a "coach killer", but I'm sure he'll be given a free pass by the media because he's white. Instead, they'll pretend it's the 8 game losing streak that did him in. Don't buy it. Been on the job for only 1+ season and the team has maxed out in that time.

    Grizzlies need to stop treating Gasol and Conley as if they're Duncan, Ginobili, Parker and re-build; even if the goal is to continue to compete for the right to lose in the 1st round. As spursistan said, they could probably trade Gasol for Love, who's 3 years younger, plus Cavaliers 1st (not Nets pick) or Zizic or maybe both.



    Clippers should trade Jordan, but not for Thompson, Frye and Cavaliers' 1st. Instead, for Gortat, Smith, Satoransky and 1st. They're all up a year earlier than Thompson, so they'd have greater financial flexibility.
    Don't see why the Wiz would make that trade. Gortat means more to the Wiz than Thompson does to the Cavs tbh, and while DeMonkey is the better player in the right situations Gortat fits the Wiz's offense better.

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    Don't see why the Wiz would make that trade. Gortat means more to the Wiz than Thompson does to the Cavs tbh, and while DeMonkey is the better player in the right situations Gortat fits the Wiz's offense better.
    Wizards are one more significant piece away from having a legit shot to win the East . . . and Jordan's not that player. But he'd still upgrade them and show the team that management is serious about trying to contend now. They were probably hoping Pelicans would flop, so they could pursue Cousins. Gasol probably only comes available if he asks out and he'd more than likely require Oubre and an additional 1st.

    Gortat is in decline and has periodically griped about being underappreciated.

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    Grizzlies imploding but geezz bad drafting. then you add the Chandler Parsons contract.


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    Wizards are one more significant piece away from having a legit shot to win the East . . . and Jordan's not that player. But he'd still upgrade them and show the team that management is serious about trying to contend now. They were probably hoping Pelicans would flop, so they could pursue Cousins. Gasol probably only comes available if he asks out and he'd more than likely require Oubre and an additional 1st.

    Gortat is in decline and has periodically griped about being underappreciated.
    I just can't see the Wiz trading their emotional leader (as overrated as that term is) for a rental of DeMonkey who wouldn't even elevate their ceiling. Wiz have enough as is to at least be a legitimate threat in the East this year; if the Cavs don't make any moves and everyone else stays as is, they're already better than Boston and Toronto currently and close enough to the Cavs to have a legit shot.

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    Grizzlies imploding but geezz bad drafting. then you add the Chandler Parsons contract.

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