The Touchdown Jesus Statue of Blake Wesley

[spurraider21]

And a decade ago was the beautiful game. They were relying on passing and screens, not Parker. Go back another ten years for that.

beautiful game years were also the years the parker was actually getting league MVP votes, scored as much as ever, had his highest assist numbers, and generally had usage rates on par with the highest of his career

[Chinook]

And a decade ago was the beautiful game. They were relying on passing and screens, not Parker. Go back another ten years for that.

The Spurs were running Zipper and Motion Weak at the same time. The years where Parker was a dominant scorer in the "loop" was 2013, literally the year before the "Beautiful Game". You can see in the videos Zipper plays from 2016 and Motion Weak plays from 2013.

[playbonner15]

Damn... good thing he'll probably be staying in Austin

[onechance87]

ill take rice over him at this point

[rankingtear]

Pretty telling that Bassey developed a floater before Wes.

[Obstructed_View]

Pretty telling that Bassey developed a floater before Wes.

And it's really good.

[rankingtear]

I just don't like the idea of filling 2 spots for that third stringer point guard spot for 2 years maybe 3. We don't even care where we finish this season and yet there is no confidence that Wes could play insurance behind Tre without completely nuking the offense.

[Maddog]

Damn... good thing he'll probably be staying in Austin

Probably.
He definitely isn't ready for prime time.
You can see things that are tantalizing and why the Spurs took a flyer on him. There's reasons he was a late 1st rounder. Still very raw. I'd hoped for more development by now, however he's still young and only 1 year in.

[Obstructed_View]

Good on Blake for hitting his final two free throws. Other than that, he stinks.

Remember that he, Sochan and Branham were all at the same level not that long ago.

[exstatic]

Good on Blake for hitting his final two free throws. Other than that, he stinks.

Remember that he, Sochan and Branham were all at the same level not that long ago.

That blown MCL set him back a bit. Six weeks in your rookie season is an eternity. Remember, Branham looked like dog until probably mid January. He started getting reps when Vassell went down, and not so magically, he improved.


I think someone like Blake is another reason for the mad scientist season this year by Pop. He’s going to take some lumps and losses to get time for Blake, to see if he pops like Sochan and Branham did.

[sfernald]

They need to focus on getting Wemby to the playin this year and not worry about low end first round picks that aren’t developing well. I would trade three Wesleys for a guy like Miller who the spurs just gave away in the draft this year.

What the spurs need to do is focus on a mid season trade that brings in a top three player in their roster the way the Celtics did bringing in Jrue and Porz this off season.

Forget development. Wemby is a top 10 player this year! Get this man into the playoffs now!

[exstatic]

They need to focus on getting Wemby to the playin this year and not worry about low end first round picks that aren’t developing well. I would trade three Wesleys for a guy like Miller who the spurs just gave away in the draft this year.

What the spurs need to do is focus on a mid season trade that brings in a top three player in their roster the way the Celtics did bringing in Jrue and Porz this off season.

Forget development. Wemby is a top 10 player this year! Get this man into the playoffs now!

You just haven't been paying attention, have you? That's not the plan, no matter how much of a fit you throw. They will evaluate Wemby, and everyone else on the roster for a year. It's also dumb to compare us to the Celtics. They have been a deep playoff team for like 4 seasons, and most of the guys on their roster are mid to late 20s. Most of our guys are 19-23, and we've never been to the playoffs with this group. You make different moves at different points in the team's life cycle, and win now moves make no sense for us.

[Spurs Homer]

You just haven't been paying attention, have you? That's not the plan, no matter how much of a fit you throw. They will evaluate Wemby, and everyone else on the roster for a year. It's also dumb to compare us to the Celtics. They have been a deep playoff team for like 4 seasons, and most of the guys on their roster are mid to late 20s. Most of our guys are 19-23, and we've never been to the playoffs with this group. You make different moves at different points in the team's life cycle, and win now moves make no sense for us.

sez who? Where?

wemby evaluation for a year w/out any moves?

please show this memo i must have missed…

pop wants to watch him and allow him to be himself but to suddenly conclude pop needs a YEAR …is just as inaccurate as what you are criticising isnt it?

win- now moves make no sense?
wow

if you were a consultant to a business i had investments $$ in i would ask the board to vote to fire you and get me the guy that thinks outside the box and will be OPEN to win now!

[Fireball]

i hope he has fun in Austin ...

[JPB]

That blown MCL set him back a bit. Six weeks in your rookie season is an eternity. Remember, Branham looked like dog until probably mid January. He started getting reps when Vassell went down, and not so magically, he improved.


I think someone like Blake is another reason for the mad scientist season this year by Pop. He’s going to take some lumps and losses to get time for Blake, to see if he pops like Sochan and Branham did.

I'm really not spurs have any kind of specific plan for Wesley at this point and that we can compare him with Sochan and Branham who didn't show worrying flaws like Wesley repeteadly shows. You never wondered if sochan or Branham belonged or thought to yourself, "damn they suck ass", which you defintely do with Wesley sometimes... Ofc spurs are gonna continue to develop and try to make him a valuable player but there's that feeling he's more of an afterthought now, and he's not in the same wagon as his rookie class fellas. His challenge is to stay on the train now.

[wildbill2u]

My question is whether Blake feels like he under so much pressure to perform well that he becomes a chucking black hole without the skill set to pull it off, or he just doesn't have the mentality to share the ball when it is imperative. KJ kinda grew out of it so maybe Blake will to, but it is painful to watch sometimes.

[exstatic]

sez who? Where?

wemby evaluation for a year w/out any moves?

They made no moves not predicated on renting cap space.

please show this memo i must have missed…

numerous press conferences.

pop wants to watch him and allow him to be himself but to suddenly conclude pop needs a YEAR …is just as inaccurate as what you are criticising isnt it?

The only thing I criticized was his lack of paying attention, and apparently, you're not either. Have fun with your year of frustration, both of you.

win- now moves make no sense?
wow

The last time the Spurs were in this position, some good young prospects and a #1 pick, was 1989. They traded an All D, multi All Star, one time All NBA player for a veteran PF who turned out to have only a couple of good years left, a win now move. They won nothing until they got lucky again and won the lottery for a second time eight years later. It was a dumb move.

if you were a consultant to a business i had investments $$ in i would ask the board to vote to fire you and get me the guy that thinks outside the box and will be OPEN to win now!

Casuals would advocate for "win now". Thinking outside the box is waiting a year to see how the pieces fit.

[couchman]

Wemby being this good means the timeline for everyone moves up.
The Spurs will solve the PG issue one way or another in the next 12 months.
Wesley will either be part of that solution or he won’t be a Spur.

I love his defense, his energy, and his first step.
But that first step is pointless if he can’t find a floater or some other way to finish at the rim.
He needs to spend the next 7 months in Austin working in finishing like his career depends on it, because it does.

[exstatic]

I'm really not spurs have any kind of specific plan for Wesley at this point and that we can compare him with Sochan and Branham who didn't show worrying flaws like Wesley repeteadly shows. You never wondered if sochan or Branham belonged or thought to yourself, "damn they suck ass", which you defintely do with Wesley sometimes... Ofc spurs are gonna continue to develop and try to make him a valuable player but there's that feeling he's more of an afterthought now, and he's not in the same wagon as his rookie class fellas. His challenge is to stay on the train now.

Posters here, unsurprisingly, WERE calling Malaki a bust by January. He looked awful.

[Spurs Homer]

You might be the one not paying attention or I did not communicate it properly...

I am OPEN to the plan you seem to believe that is etched in stone -if pop is indeed set on a time and on a plan and is not open to trades/moves/improvements-

I am OPEN to that - a bit disappointed - but OPEN

I am also OPEN to seeing where it goes and seeing how things progress- WITHOUT the set time of 1 year
or the

1-4 year plan BEFORE the spurs compete for les...

I am also aware that the FIRST thing I ever heard Victor say to the Spurs - in public - the first message was;
"I want to win now"

Now,

sure, we can all ASSUME that Victor is just another perfect Timmy/David/Manu/Parker type of young man and that HE will be happy to snail across his career and wait for pops brilliant system to eventually lead him to a le...

but

I am OPEN to the fact that Victor appears to MEAN what he says and he grew up in the Lebron era - like it or not and that era means PLAYERS/STARS call the shots and franchises make stars happy and if not -

then...who knows.

Victor appears to be in the mold of the Timmy's of the world but we do not know what happens if and when he tastes defeat or if and when he feels that when he rests on the bench- the team loses games.
We do not know and I am proud of Pop and in the fact that Pop KNOWS- that he must be OPEN to new ways.

If Pops plan and your belief of it is accurate - I am OPEN to it and I hope to see victor believe in the spurs and follow the plan and I am open to see what happens if a proper deal/offer comes along that the spurs feel is in the teams best interests too!

[sfernald]

You just haven't been paying attention, have you? That's not the plan, no matter how much of a fit you throw. They will evaluate Wemby, and everyone else on the roster for a year. It's also dumb to compare us to the Celtics. They have been a deep playoff team for like 4 seasons, and most of the guys on their roster are mid to late 20s. Most of our guys are 19-23, and we've never been to the playoffs with this group. You make different moves at different points in the team's life cycle, and win now moves make no sense for us.

People who still believe in the developmental plan (and that includes spurs management in case they haven’t figured it out) are falling behind in the narrative.

Wemby is so good right now, he is going to drag this team to the playin. There’s no low draft picks ahead folks, besides the ones from other teams. We good. We gunna be really good. Wemby is one of these rarified air once in a generation players who will lift his team to greatness every time he plays. Even greater than someone like Zion who when he’s healthy makes his team one of the best in the league. His teammates aren’t nearly as good but I think he will lift them to become the best possible versions of themselves.

We are about to see magic and there’s no reason not to upgrade this season cause who knows we might just win that playin and even win the first series! I’ve lived long enough to see this begin a few times with Magic and Lebron and it is sheer joy to watch.

[exstatic]

People who still believe in the developmental plan (and that includes spurs management in case they haven’t figured it out) are falling behind in the narrative.

Wemby is so good right now, he is going to drag this team to the playin. There’s no low draft picks ahead folks, besides the ones from other teams. We good. We gunna be really good. Wemby is one of these rarified air once in a generation players who will lift his team to greatness every time he plays. Even greater than someone like Zion who when he’s healthy makes his team one of the best in the league. His teammates aren’t nearly as good but I think he will lift them to become the best possible versions of themselves.

We are about to see magic and there’s no reason not to upgrade this season cause who knows we might just win that playin and even win the first series! I’ve lived long enough to see this begin a few times with Magic and Lebron and it is sheer joy to watch.

Ah,you’re one of the ones that think they’re smarter than PATFO. I’ll trouble you no further, since we have no frame of reference in which to discuss.

[Obstructed_View]

That blown MCL set him back a bit. Six weeks in your rookie season is an eternity. Remember, Branham looked like dog until probably mid January. He started getting reps when Vassell went down, and not so magically, he improved.


I think someone like Blake is another reason for the mad scientist season this year by Pop. He’s going to take some lumps and losses to get time for Blake, to see if he pops like Sochan and Branham did.

It might have set him back a bit, but he was healthy by the end of the year, so he had the entire off season and came in with nothing new. No floater, no jump-stop, no nothin. He strikes me at this point as a guy who succeeded at other levels with his athletic talent.

But you could be right, because right up to his injury he was really looking good. Far better than he has looked for a single moment since.

[sfernald]

Ah,you’re one of the ones that think they’re smarter than PATFO. I’ll trouble you no further, since we have no frame of reference in which to discuss.

I’m sure front office is figuring this out too. I mean I hope they are watching the games lol. Are you watching what Wemby is doing out there?

[RC_Drunkford]

the timeline should not be 4 years. They should also not rush things and try to win a le now. You see what you have this season, then try to upgrade next season. If the Spurs are able to get an All-Star level PG without giving up much, they should be a dark horse contender next season.