Right because Richardson is going to save their season (and yes, I get the addition by subtraction of Westbrook).
If there was any chance of the Lakers doing that, the trade would be done.
He's still a 3 and D starting C who'd allow Davis to go back to primarily masquerading as a PF.
It’s an interesting point about the TE, because that could be their ticket to Irving (if he takes a slight discount). I don’t think Richardson-Brick works (spurs need to send out more salary), but if Rich/Romeo works that’s around a 28M TE if my math is right.
Not sure why this isn't the unanimous concensus by all here minus Laker Fan
What's the point of doing the Lakers any favors? Taking Westbrook for a prorected 1st only benefits them. And they are likely to suck in a couple years meaning that pick may never convey. So why do it under that scenario? We aren't going anywhere and if we can swindle two 1sts from them, you do it. Otherwise, you have the season you're going to have. And let the Lakers have the season they're going to have.
First, I merely proposed what I suspect their offer would be; I didn't advocate for the Spurs accepting it.
Second, I said minimally protected as in the Spurs would have a legit chance at a very high pick.
Third, they wouldn't sniff championship contention with this trade.
at this point i'm going to root against any westbrook trade. the spurs are in a good place and unless the lakers throw all their meager assets at us. no reason to give them any help. Richardson and poertle are great guys who don't complain and play good basketball. San antonio needs these guys better than they need extra picks far out into the future. While it's tempting to get in to the lakers future misery, the lakers are untrustfull in trades with small market teams. They think they can gain leverage by playing the offers against eachother. but the spurs have all the time in the world to cook this pig.
the lakers. all day all night. amen
All the Lakers need is warm bodies who can shoot the three and to get Westbrook off their team to be contenders. Richardson and McDermott would be great fits there and would take a lot of pressure off James and Davis. Lakers aren't in a situation where they can be picky, they can either trade now or flush another season in a wide open west when they have top level talent in James and Davis that they won't see again for years. Also can't be understated how toxic Westbrook is to their offense and also their defense (since he forces a fast pace that works against their halfcourt defense, which was an enormous strength of their le team in 2020).
The Spurs are not in a good place. They look like they're in a win 35 games and draft tenth again place without any high end talent on the roster.
See that's why I hold out for two unprotected firsts for say Richardson and McDermott. The Lakers won't get a better chance to win a le than this year if they can add some shooting and if they wait very long Westbrook will have already tanked their season. Lakers will have to pay a heavy price with those picks to not waste another season of James + Davis together. They have already mortgaged their future in the Davis trade so they're unlikely to have another duo as good as James + Davis any time in the next few years again. And Westbrook is pure cancer, I don't know that I expect to see him in the NBA again once his time in LA is up. Two unprotected firsts for role players sounds ridiculous, but Westbrook is that toxic and whoever trades for him is going to have to pony up $47 million for a loser they'll most likely cut.
The Spurs could still add value to any trade. They could include the Charlotte rather heavily protected first (1-16, then 1-14, then 1-14, then 2 seconds). So even while giving up unprotected picks, the Lakers would still have a piece to go forward with for other trades. The risk of the pick becoming 2 seconds could make it worth the Spurs including if they can get unprotected back.
Spurs could also instead give back the Lakers 24 second rounder.
I dunno, the Lakers are such a bad shooting team that the opposition doesn't even guard the perimeter at all this year and it's working.
I've watched their games. It's utterly disrespectful how teams guard them.
Switch Westbrick with JRich and all of a sudden there is a near-seismic shift in how teams have to defend them and then Lebron and AD have more room to work.
And those two are enough to leverage that into a winning formula, which they don't have right now.
And Turner in street clothes is a giant nothing and he's in street clothes a lot.
Just my opinion.
The year they won it all, they played a center and Davis at PF. Adding a top 10 center in the league wouldn't hurt them tbh. If we are being honest, the Lakers are starting Westbrook, Lonnie and Beverly. Poeltl sould be an improvement over any of them, the fit.
I don't think the Poeltl fit is problematic for them. Move Davis to the 4 in the SL.. then when you sub Poeltl out play AD at the 5 and rotate them. A unit of Schroeder, JRich, McDermott, Lebron, and Jak would score alot and Jak protecting the rim on D would look better that what they've had so far...The year they won it all, they played a center and Davis at PF. Adding a top 10 center in the league wouldn't hurt them tbh. If we are being honest, the Lakers are starting Westbrook, Lonnie and Beverly. Poeltl sould be an improvement over any of them, the fit.
On second thought...don't make the trade...I want LA to be good enough to make the 6th seed tops...not actually compete..
Lakers signed 2 centers this summer, Damian Jones and Thomas Bryant, who are probably style wise closer to Poeltl then a volume 3 shooter like Brook Lopez or Turner
Having beef to spare Davis from punishment seems like something they could use. And Poeltl is an ironman compared to the candidates on the roster and someone like Turner
Fair enough.
I don't like helping the Lakers, but the Pelicans get their swapped pick. The Lakers aren't doing any real damage in the playoffs.
Still, I don't trade Poeltl or even Richardson at this point. The young guys need some structure and they help provide it. You can't just throw youth out there and expect growth without structure.
Other teams may come along as the season deepens. No rush.
Looks like Anthony Davis hurt his back again just now against the Nuggets
The way he’s going the Lakers may aswell trade this dude for picks. Or they might be more inclined to come after Poeltl knowing that AD can only play 40-50 games a year and they can load manage him through to the playoffs.
Lakers are in shambles
Davis is back out there. Looked worse the way he was grabbing it. Still, he’s moving like Duncan at age 36.
This is way under respected here. This team gains a lot by being compe ive from time to time.
Watching the Lakers now and boy, stating the obvious, but the lack of shooting is killing them and clogging everything up for LeBron and AD. Defense is horrid aswell.
Won’t be long before they are DESPERATE for shooting (Doug and Richardson), some wing defense (Richardson) and a big man upgrade to spell Davis and allow him to play 4 (Poeltl). He’s getting too banged up playing 5.
Brick + 2 unprotected picks + a pick swap tbh. Spurs can send back their Charlotte 1st and a couple seconds.
The price just went up LkrFan. Bend over.
Yeah I agree with high caliber guys like Poeltl, Richardson and McDermott helping the young guys develop. It will be a tough call for the Spurs to make if they end up getting offered 2 unprotected by the Lakers for those guys.
Lakers 4-20 from 3 so far.
That’s a good night for them tbh.
How much salary do the Spurs have to match when picks are involved?
Still have to match 'Chucks 42 million?
I think Lakers will hold off on trading for Westbrook because I think Brooklyn is about a millisecond away from imploding if things keep going the way they are. I could readily see Westbrook and 2 firsts going to Brooklyn for Durant OR Irving and maybe another piece. Getting a Durant or Irving would be much preferred over what we or I diana can send back. And it'd probably be easier for Laker brass to swallow sending out their only remaining first round picks for someone of their caliber instead.
You've got bad blood already starting to surface between those guys and Simmons. They're quite frankly on the verge of collapse if they don't figure it out and do it soon.
Can't see Brooklyn doing that trade. They owe soo many picks to Houston that tanking won't solve anything. They need talent and to win. Westbrook trade won't do anything for them immediatly.
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