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    episode 4: little prince

    ok a little theory:
    what if, the young "other" girl was Faraday's mom aka (possibly) the woman at the end of the 2nd episode ? He did tell her she was familiar.

    Richard called her "Ellie" and Faraday named his rat Eloise.
    Yeah, he also said she looked familiar to him.


    The nosebleeds are for those who have been on the island for a long time and haven't connected with their "constant"

    Solid season so far, the Widmore and Richard/Locke reveal were the best.

    All the off-island stuff drags though, especially with the ty storyline between Kate and Aaron. He isn't her son and damn she's gotten more and more annoying.

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    ... especially with the ty storyline between Kate and Aaron. He isn't her son and damn she's gotten more and more annoying.
    +1,000

    Kate is the only thing wrong with this show.

    Her storyline should be over, can't they kill her off?

    I used to think that the only reason they are keeping her alive is because they're gonna reveal that she is behind all the weird things that happen on the island, or she was some extremely integral part of the island's beginning. But that theory has gone out the window, and I have no clue why she's still alive. I hate that they keep forcing her ty story on us and trying to make us interested in such a crappy character.

    Analogy...Lost is like the Mona Lisa, and Kate is like if da Vinci decided to give her a lazy eye!!!

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    Kate is the only thing wrong with this show.

    Her storyline should be over, can't they kill her off?

    I used to think that the only reason they are keeping her alive is because they're gonna reveal that she is behind all the weird things that happen on the island, or she was some extremely integral part of the island's beginning. But that theory has gone out the window, and I have no clue why she's still alive. I hate that they keep forcing her ty story on us and trying to make us interested in such a crappy character.

    Analogy...Lost is like the Mona Lisa, and Kate is like if da Vinci decided to give her a lazy eye!!!


    My buddy was talking about Kate the other day. See, he's a guy that caught up to the current season mostly through DVDs, and he laughed that Kate was almost constantly the reason why the group was in trouble.

    She's always going off to track someone (and inevitably gets caught) or she just stays in a constant state of flux as either Jack or Sawyer's emotional baggage. I swear to God, the only reason they're keeping her alive is so they can make sure Jack, Sawyer, and the rest of the cast have some trouble to get out of.

    She really is absolutely worthless as a character!

    Having said all that, she's hot (especially off-island Kate) and her involvement should keep the show interesting to conclusion.

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    My buddy was talking about Kate the other day. See, he's a guy that caught up to the current season mostly through DVDs, and he laughed that Kate was almost constantly the reason why the group was in trouble.

    She's always going off to track someone (and inevitably gets caught) or she just stays in a constant state of flux as either Jack or Sawyer's emotional baggage. I swear to God, the only reason they're keeping her alive is so they can make sure Jack, Sawyer, and the rest of the cast have some trouble to get out of.

    She really is absolutely worthless as a character!

    Having said all that, she's hot (especially off-island Kate) and her involvement should keep the show interesting to conclusion.
    Her only purpose is as a booty call for Jack and Sawyer in their ty soap opera romantic triangle. If she kept her mouth shut and stayed in the background, then I could enjoy her as the island that she essentially is. Too bad, they force her as a lead character who is one whiny, annoying .


    I never understood why anyone watched this show. Just tease after tease after tease.
    That's why I'm glad there is a set ending- this season and just one more.

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    we didn't really see Michael or Jin die.

    I think the writers did that on purpose in case they wanted to pull them back later.
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    I agree that Kate is an annoying character but dont expect the producers to kill her off as she is the second lead character of the show. It will probably be till the end for her to die..if she ever will on camera.

    I'll tell you who will die within the next few episodes...Juliet.

    She's truly done I feel. Her story is all done. No real reason to have her on the show anymore.

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    Blake called it.

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    I agree that Kate is an annoying character but dont expect the producers to kill her off as she is the second lead character of the show. It will probably be till the end for her to die..if she ever will on camera.

    I'll tell you who will die within the next few episodes...Juliet.

    She's truly done I feel. Her story is all done. No real reason to have her on the show anymore.
    I hope your wrong, I like looking at her rack

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    I'll tell you who will die within the next few episodes...Juliet.

    She's truly done I feel. Her story is all done. No real reason to have her on the show anymore.
    Doubt it. I think Ben is still in love with her and I think the writers try to make one last ditch effort to squeeze that back in somewhere.

    The character I cannot stand and cannot wait for her to die off is that red headed chick with the nosebleeds. She's absolutely worthless.

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    I agree that Kate is an annoying character but dont expect the producers to kill her off as she is the second lead character of the show. It will probably be till the end for her to die..if she ever will on camera.

    I'll tell you who will die within the next few episodes...Juliet.

    She's truly done I feel. Her story is all done. No real reason to have her on the show anymore.
    i hope you're wrong about juliet, she's my favourite character with desmond and ben.

    I think there's something going on between her and sawyer since the begining of the season, the producers will not kill her off anytime soon (i think).

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    Doubt it. I think Ben is still in love with her and I think the writers try to make one last ditch effort to squeeze that back in somewhere.

    The character I cannot stand and cannot wait for her to die off is that red headed chick with the nosebleeds. She's absolutely worthless.
    I like looking at her rack too, she is worthless but she is hot. It might be time to kill off another chick though. Shannon, Libby, Anna Lucia, and Claire hahah damn chicks are lucky to survive on this show.

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    I like looking at her rack too, she is worthless but she is hot. It might be time to kill off another chick though. Shannon, Libby, Anna Lucia, and Claire hahah damn chicks are lucky to survive on this show.
    wait, Claire is dead?
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    wait, Claire is dead?
    we can only hope

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    It hasn't been indicated whether Claire is dead or not.

    The theory is that she died in the explosion when Keamy's men attacked New Otherton, and the Claire that Sawyer rescued was a deceased version of her. This theory is strengthened by the fact that Miles kept giving Claire strange looks after this event, as if he detected something ghostly about her.

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    The Ten Most Worthless Characters of "Lost"

    Published on Saturday January 24, 2009 01:53 AM CST

    Yahoo TV recently declared Lost's 10 most worthless characters. They are the characters whose scenes we usually fast-forward through because they just don't have a lot to offer. They're not necessarily evil, most of them kick very little butt, their back-stories eat up precious screen time, and they require far too much hand-holding from the characters who are actually making themselves useful (or entertaining) on or off the island. We're calling them out because we know Jack just doesn't have the heart to. And besides, he's busy doing important things, which is more than we can say for these guys.

    10. Michael
    "Oops! I killed Libby!" When Michael wasn't running around wildly screaming "My son!" at anything with ears (annoying, but a great drinking game rule nonetheless), he was killing or betraying his fellow castaways for Walt's benefit. While we're on the subject of Walt, it should be noted that Michael is also the least fun dad ever. He wouldn't let Walt learn how to throw knives, even though all the cool kids on the island were doing it, and he dragged him on his shoddy raft tour of doom and kidnapping, the island's equivalent of a long and boring father-son fly fishing trip. Did we mention he's just no good?

    9. Christian Shephard
    When this guy was alive he liked to do things like perform surgeries whilst intoxicated, drunkenly botch them, and then try to guilt his son (Jack) into lying about it for him. This is the same son he spent a lifetime convincing that he was hopelessly inadequate by drilling the mantra "You just don't have what it takes" into his head, by the way. And that's just what he does to the kid he tells people about! He also has a secret family on another continent that he enjoyed violently threatening on rainy evenings from time to time. Now that he's un-dead (half-dead? Half-alive? It's anyone's guess), he's certainly become a much cooler character, but he haunts Jack for no good reason and he seems to have killed Claire, so he's still about a million miles away from sainthood in our book.

    8. Kate
    Kate's biggest problem is that she just can't follow instructions. Ignoring simple pleas like "Kate! Don't touch that!" or "Kate! Don't follow us!" have wound up causing a whole mess of problems, from getting her and Jack "caught in a net" once, to losing the Losties quite a few weapons to The Others back in Season 2, to, most recently, assuring a frantic wife, "Sun, you get the baby on the helicopter. I'll get Jin." -- moments later, Jin (ostensibly) blew up, and Kate was safe and sound in the air. Oh, and back on the mainland she got her cancer-curing, upstanding-citizen-minding-his-own-business of a childhood sweetheart shot to death when she stole his car with him in it to escape the fuzz. Short and simple, Kate ruins everything.

    7. Charlie
    Admittedly, Charlie offered some great comic relief at times, and he did do cool things every once in a while (killing Ethan to avenge Claire, rescuing Sayid's girlfriend from an alleyway robbery, drowning himself to save everyone, probably a couple other nice things we're forgetting). The downside is that all of that was negated by his never-effing-ending struggle with heroin, freakish obsession with Aaron, and the thinly veiled Oasis: Behind the Music that was his back story, all of which just got in the way of much more interesting plotlines. And while we're at it, "You All Everybody" is a far cry from "Wonderwall." A really far cry.

    6. Claire
    Claire is representative of the problems common among all of Lost's least compelling characters. She can't fight for herself, so she constantly needs to be protected and/or rescued, she can't hunt for herself, so she constantly needs to be provided for, and she's guilty (though to a lesser degree) of Michael's "My son!" syndrome when it comes to all things Aaron, which is more than a little grating after four seasons. Basically, she's the least kick-butt of any of the show's remaining major characters, which is just inexcusable when even Bernard has proven handy with a gun at this point. But at least we won't see her again until next season.

    5. Shannon
    Hey everyone, meet Shannon. She's very pretty and very rich, but aside from possessing a half-assed French proficiency and the ability to whine about anything and everything, she has no skills whatsoever. How did her brother feel when some jungle peyote caused him to hallucinate her gory demise? "Relieved." That's right. This girl was such a soul-crushing burden that even her own brother was relieved when he thought she'd been killed. And so were we, when she was finally offed for real.

    4. Aaron
    Is it just us, or is this little guy really not pulling his weight?

    3. Sarah Shephard
    While the "Happy Gilmore" fan in me says Julie Bowen can do no wrong, Sarah Shephard is the most boring part of the most boring back story in "Lost" history. While Sayid and the love of his life were torn apart by political strife, warfare and ultimately, murder, for instance, Jack and Sarah just kind of...grew apart. Because of...Jack's busy work schedule. While that kind of thing is undoubtedly relatable to many viewers, this isn't "Thirtysomething," it's "Lost". No one watches this show to see a bored rich housewife crying about being ignored. If that's the biggest problem in your life, character, you belong on another show.

    2. Achara (That Bai Ling Character)
    We get it -- Jack is weird about girls. This is a fact we all knew long before this episode aired and wasted everyone's time. We'd endured his painfully boring divorce, watched four full seasons of him trying to steal Kate away from Sawyer, and even enjoyed some chaste sexual tension with Ana Lucia and Juliet. Why, after all of that, did we have to sit through an entire flashback episode of him hooking up with a psychic Thai floozy on vacay? Because she gave him one of his tattoos? Yeah, because everyone was just dying to know where Jack's tattoos came from.

    1. Nikki and Paolo
    These two were so worthless they don't even deserve to be separate characters. A show like Lost should never, repeat, never have departure episodes. Not only did they halt much-needed exposition in the show's long story arcs, they also seriously messed with the viewers' collective sanities. Don't leave us with a cliffhanger like Ben seemingly teleporting Locke's dad to the island via an alleged "magic (fricking!) box" and then waste the entire next week on a cautionary tale against greed starring two characters (who die at the end of the episode, never to be heard from again) we've never heard of. It was just cruel and we clearly still haven't fully recovered. Perhaps we never will.

    http://www.theallybox.com/stories/36...acters_of_Lost

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    Where's Vincent?

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    I object to having Charlie on that list, especially after his epic (and very sad) death.

    Also, Vincent swimming for the raft after it launches is one of the best moments in Lost history. "Vincent, go back!"

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    The Ten Most Worthless Characters of "Lost"

    Published on Saturday January 24, 2009 01:53 AM CST

    Yahoo TV recently declared Lost's 10 most worthless characters. They are the characters whose scenes we usually fast-forward through because they just don't have a lot to offer. They're not necessarily evil, most of them kick very little butt, their back-stories eat up precious screen time, and they require far too much hand-holding from the characters who are actually making themselves useful (or entertaining) on or off the island. We're calling them out because we know Jack just doesn't have the heart to. And besides, he's busy doing important things, which is more than we can say for these guys.

    10. Michael
    "Oops! I killed Libby!" When Michael wasn't running around wildly screaming "My son!" at anything with ears (annoying, but a great drinking game rule nonetheless), he was killing or betraying his fellow castaways for Walt's benefit. While we're on the subject of Walt, it should be noted that Michael is also the least fun dad ever. He wouldn't let Walt learn how to throw knives, even though all the cool kids on the island were doing it, and he dragged him on his shoddy raft tour of doom and kidnapping, the island's equivalent of a long and boring father-son fly fishing trip. Did we mention he's just no good?

    9. Christian Shephard
    When this guy was alive he liked to do things like perform surgeries whilst intoxicated, drunkenly botch them, and then try to guilt his son (Jack) into lying about it for him. This is the same son he spent a lifetime convincing that he was hopelessly inadequate by drilling the mantra "You just don't have what it takes" into his head, by the way. And that's just what he does to the kid he tells people about! He also has a secret family on another continent that he enjoyed violently threatening on rainy evenings from time to time. Now that he's un-dead (half-dead? Half-alive? It's anyone's guess), he's certainly become a much cooler character, but he haunts Jack for no good reason and he seems to have killed Claire, so he's still about a million miles away from sainthood in our book.

    8. Kate
    Kate's biggest problem is that she just can't follow instructions. Ignoring simple pleas like "Kate! Don't touch that!" or "Kate! Don't follow us!" have wound up causing a whole mess of problems, from getting her and Jack "caught in a net" once, to losing the Losties quite a few weapons to The Others back in Season 2, to, most recently, assuring a frantic wife, "Sun, you get the baby on the helicopter. I'll get Jin." -- moments later, Jin (ostensibly) blew up, and Kate was safe and sound in the air. Oh, and back on the mainland she got her cancer-curing, upstanding-citizen-minding-his-own-business of a childhood sweetheart shot to death when she stole his car with him in it to escape the fuzz. Short and simple, Kate ruins everything.

    7. Charlie
    Admittedly, Charlie offered some great comic relief at times, and he did do cool things every once in a while (killing Ethan to avenge Claire, rescuing Sayid's girlfriend from an alleyway robbery, drowning himself to save everyone, probably a couple other nice things we're forgetting). The downside is that all of that was negated by his never-effing-ending struggle with heroin, freakish obsession with Aaron, and the thinly veiled Oasis: Behind the Music that was his back story, all of which just got in the way of much more interesting plotlines. And while we're at it, "You All Everybody" is a far cry from "Wonderwall." A really far cry.

    6. Claire
    Claire is representative of the problems common among all of Lost's least compelling characters. She can't fight for herself, so she constantly needs to be protected and/or rescued, she can't hunt for herself, so she constantly needs to be provided for, and she's guilty (though to a lesser degree) of Michael's "My son!" syndrome when it comes to all things Aaron, which is more than a little grating after four seasons. Basically, she's the least kick-butt of any of the show's remaining major characters, which is just inexcusable when even Bernard has proven handy with a gun at this point. But at least we won't see her again until next season.

    5. Shannon
    Hey everyone, meet Shannon. She's very pretty and very rich, but aside from possessing a half-assed French proficiency and the ability to whine about anything and everything, she has no skills whatsoever. How did her brother feel when some jungle peyote caused him to hallucinate her gory demise? "Relieved." That's right. This girl was such a soul-crushing burden that even her own brother was relieved when he thought she'd been killed. And so were we, when she was finally offed for real.

    4. Aaron
    Is it just us, or is this little guy really not pulling his weight?

    3. Sarah Shephard
    While the "Happy Gilmore" fan in me says Julie Bowen can do no wrong, Sarah Shephard is the most boring part of the most boring back story in "Lost" history. While Sayid and the love of his life were torn apart by political strife, warfare and ultimately, murder, for instance, Jack and Sarah just kind of...grew apart. Because of...Jack's busy work schedule. While that kind of thing is undoubtedly relatable to many viewers, this isn't "Thirtysomething," it's "Lost". No one watches this show to see a bored rich housewife crying about being ignored. If that's the biggest problem in your life, character, you belong on another show.

    2. Achara (That Bai Ling Character)
    We get it -- Jack is weird about girls. This is a fact we all knew long before this episode aired and wasted everyone's time. We'd endured his painfully boring divorce, watched four full seasons of him trying to steal Kate away from Sawyer, and even enjoyed some chaste sexual tension with Ana Lucia and Juliet. Why, after all of that, did we have to sit through an entire flashback episode of him hooking up with a psychic Thai floozy on vacay? Because she gave him one of his tattoos? Yeah, because everyone was just dying to know where Jack's tattoos came from.

    1. Nikki and Paolo
    These two were so worthless they don't even deserve to be separate characters. A show like Lost should never, repeat, never have departure episodes. Not only did they halt much-needed exposition in the show's long story arcs, they also seriously messed with the viewers' collective sanities. Don't leave us with a cliffhanger like Ben seemingly teleporting Locke's dad to the island via an alleged "magic (fricking!) box" and then waste the entire next week on a cautionary tale against greed starring two characters (who die at the end of the episode, never to be heard from again) we've never heard of. It was just cruel and we clearly still haven't fully recovered. Perhaps we never will.

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    This list is stupid without Shannon number 1.

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    Does anyone else wish they brought back Echo?

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    That list is re ed.

    Christian Shepherd cannot be worthless just because he gave Jack a hard time. Plus way to judge a character pre-crash. Now that he seems to be with Jacob his character really has become mysterious and interesting.

    Ok back on point...

    Someone is supposed to die on the next episode. (As per tv advertisement for next ep)

    This is what made me think that Juliet is next in line. I mean she began to have nosebleed+they say someONE will die next week.

    I dont see, Sawyer, Daniel, Miles, or Charlotte dead yet just because we dont know what their story is yet.

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    This list is stupid without Shannon number 1.
    No, I think they nailed #1.

    but Shannon #2 seems right.

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    Does anyone else wish they brought back Echo?
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    No, I think they nailed #1.

    but Shannon #2 seems right.
    Ok good point.

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    Does anyone else wish they brought back Echo?
    I wish they never killed him off.

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    I would let Kate ruin me.

    And Ecko should have never died. Total bs. They had to do it because Locke would have played 2nd/3rd fiddle in the bad ass department behind him and Sayid.

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