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They looked good when the starters we're taking games off at the end of the season.
I would doubt that.
They looked good when the starters we're taking games off at the end of the season.
Bringing Tayshaun into the Spurs fold would be a terrific move. If RC could pull it off. I have heard that Joe Dumars is very upset at the play of his team against Boston and also the faulty coaching of the Pistons. Hence the firing of Saunders. He also said he wants to make big personnel moves in the offseason. Could Prince be in a Spurs uniform soon? Maybe.
http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/artic...84/1048/SPORTS
Anything can happen, but imho Prince is a pipe dream...
I red the nets would like to sell their picks for experience...how about a re-signed finley and thomas (horry?) for, just to say, a re-signed Diop and pick 21 ?
I would not trade Thomas.
Pop would never do that to Horry or Finley.
Gomes averaged 9.4 boards per 48 min, which is a pretty good rate considering he spent some time playing SF. He's an especially good offensive rebounder.
Last edited by Tully365; 06-25-2008 at 08:58 PM.
The Spurs are not trading for Prince.
Bring better ideas than this please.
We need to offer FUll MLE contract for 4 or 5 years to the SG/SF scorer that the FO targets this summer
The ideal situation is for the Spurs to sign a wing without breaking the bank.
JR Smith, Josh Childress, Corey Maggette, Kelenna Az, etc....would cost too much money.
Thus, the Spurs should take a look at CJ Miles.
He was drafted out of High School, and the kid has good stroke. He has played under Jerry Sloan, and the kid knows the defense is a must. He is still young and could possibly flourish under a system like the Spurs were the perimeter players get ton's of looks. He did not have an outstanding season in Utah, so we could probably get a young, sharp shooting wing on the cheap.
Then, we should throw the majority of the MLE to Diop and get him away from NJ. I know NJ really likes him and wants to keep him, but I believe they might be a little cash strapped right now. We all know what Diop can do. He can defend, REBOUND, and score around the basket. Most importantly, he is another agile big to play around Duncan, and he is still young!
Lastly, draft a domestic rookie PG to back up Tony Parker with our first. We could maybe package our two 2nd rounders for a very early 2nd or late 1st, and take a gamble on a foreign wing like Casspi or a Russian foreign player....whose name I can not recall right now.
Thus, the squad would like something like this.
Parker/Rookie PG/Vaughn
Miles/Ginobili/Finley
Bruce/Udoka/Barry
Duncan/Mahimni/Bonner
Diop/Thomas/Oberto
15 Man squad....if I could, I would trade Bonner....but don't think that is happening.
This roster I believe is ideal and realistic....it does not break the bank and it adresses our needs in a compe ive fashion.
You didn't respond to our main problem against the Lakers, a proving scorer who can help our big drought.
I clearly doubt that CJ Miles or a rookie will be the key, we need someone that can score from the bench right away!
I Like this plan.
And I think is "affordable"...obviously, the difficult, and more important part, is the Diop part, while the "risky" part is Miles.
Some other name for the wings would't be bad either, given draft picks to look at in the summer leagues (exemple : sinikidze, our second choices of this year like a Marcus Dove...) or via trade ( a re-signed Delfino for rights to onner and some second choice ?)
The rookie pg could be Chalmers.
I think that we had the player you mean, but he wasn't in shape (manuginobili).
He and Mahinmi from the bench shuold give enough points...
Parker - Finley (Delfino)- Bowen - Duncan - Diop
Chalmers - Manu - Barry - Mahinmi - Thomas
Voughn - cj Miles - Udoka - Bonner (2^ pick) - Oberto
no need to say this again, but I will anyways, just to get it through the thick-headed skulls of some of the people on here, and I'm not trying to be an asshole.
Wing: Free Agency. We need a guy to contribute now. We can afford some of the wings with the MLE. Draft one in the 2nd round and get him to the D-League. He can develop there.
Post: Ian. Possibly Diop or someone else through FA. Again, we can draft someone to develop, but the need for a post is scratched if Ian can contribute.
PG: Draft someone in the 1st round. Vaughn can run an offense and defend. For scoring, we have Barry(who I think will get more time at PG next year) and Ginobili. Then the rookie can contribute if they need him. There's some pretty decent ones that should fall to us.
that's it.
One realistic choice as a dynamic scorer off the bench, ten point scoring threat, good shooting percentage, pop kind of guy , is maurice evans
The spurs already thought about him before getting finley
For those who want pietrus, i'm not sure he would be a good fit, he's athletic and has potential, but deceived a lot of people in france, he chokes and his relationship with tony is kind of damaged ( don't know if it is fixed but not sure tony can call him and help make him come..)
And i would like some precisions on several scenarios involving signing kurt thomas and a good swingman, can we really afford both ? kurt made more than 8 million this year, not sure he would take the vet min, more like half the MLE or close, so, the money for the swingman is really limited
Future does not seem bright but i feel like, with the big 3 healthy, we always have quite good a shot
Last edited by silk; 06-06-2008 at 04:34 AM.
we have kurts bird rights, meaning we can sign him without touching our MLE money.
CJ Miles & Diop are NOT the answer...wtf are you smoking?
this might be the year we have to go ahead with the old heads on the bench in the hopes that we make a big splash in next years free agency...duncan didn't restructure his contract for nothing.....
What do you need to get through? That you have some opinion and others may not agree? That you're making a bunch of assumptions like everyone else, yet you're right?
Spurs have: MLE and LLE
They also have: Thomas' Bird Rights
They also have: one first round pick and two second picks
So, they are going to sign a contributing wing and a big, with the MLE and LLE? They should use the first on a PG?
Likely bigman rotation heading into next season:
Duncan
Thomas
Oberto
Mahinmi
Bonner
Re-signing Thomas makes the most sense. You are going to be hard pressed to find a big of his caliber with the MLE and if you keep him then you are free to use the MLE and LLE on other positions.
Nobody foresee a S&T situation with Thomas? And, you still have the MLE and LLE.
Exactly. Bring back Kurt, bring up Ian.
Spend the MLE on Kelenna or another wing scorer.
Draft:
PG
Long SF
Project big to stash in Austin
Spend the LLE on whatever else you can find in FA.
1.) We need another wing who can attack the rim. Preferably young. With Ginobili slowed and Parker held in check most of the playoffs, defenses were in our shooters' faces all postseason long. We didn't have anyone to draw in a defense and then kick it out (and no, Duncan doesn't count... he has a hard time finding the open man after he goes into his move). Doesn't have to be the next MJ, just an aggressive guard. Fred Jones would be great. Except that he's not young. And that New York probably did to his game what it did to Steve Francis.' I don't know much about Azubuike, but I like what I'm reading.
2.) I'd also like to see us upgrade our depth at PG. I don't mind Vaughn. In a pinch. Damon Stoudemire's a PG who relies on his quickness and explosiveness to get to the rim and put pressure on the other team. Unfortunately, he'll be 35 at the start of next season, his quickness went with his youth, and he can't distribute the ball.
Salim Stoudemire's not much of a distributor, but can shoot the lights out. Shaun Livingston, DeJuan Wagner, and Jay Williams (bet you haven't heard those names in a while) are worth fliers with a LLE or vet's minimum. Wagner and Williams can score, and if Livingston can regain he feet, would be Eric Snow at worst. And at least one of them could be had for next to nothing.
2.) The thing we need more than anything is a post to eventually replace Duncan. I'm still not sold on Splitter. Don't get me wrong, he can finish, has a soft touch around the basket, great vision, is explosive, and was a great value. He also COULD be a great help defender.... but he sometimes looks lost out there on D and gets pushed around entirely too much. I'd love having him on our team right now, but I'm not banking on him to save the franchise after Duncan's gone. He'll struggle with his back to the basket in the NBA, so he'll have to rely on finesse to get the job done. A post who can't play under the rim isn't what we need.
3.) Udoka will be fine filling in for Bowen when he gets his feet under him. He was brought in last year as an understudy to Bruce, and he brings more offensive game. Sure, he was sloppy with the ball this season, but he hasn't got consistent minutes yet. Lets wait until he gets into a rhythm before passing judgment.
3a.) Addendum to the Udoka clause: I would make a trade for Corey Brewer in a heartbeat. The only defensive-minded wing I would go out on a limb for. Already a great man defender, developing offensive game, and in the four or five T-Wolves games I saw this year, he didn't get many minutes. The chances of us landing him are slim to none, but I love his game.
Last edited by big daddy russ; 06-06-2008 at 11:15 PM.
How about Jim Jackson? He'd like to win a ring, no doubt about it. He could be helpful from the bench, he can hit 3s and he likes to hustle!
yeah why not penny hardaway or jamal mashburn? are some of you people on drugs or just messing around? we need people that can help us now that are cheap or we just have to wait til free agency in '10 to sign a big name.
Why? He has experience.
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