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    I can't entirely blame my disillusionment with Christianity on the Catholic church. I left it because I thought it was too ritualistic, and thought it seemed like a bunch of sheep mumbling the same thing over and over every single Sunday in church. So in college I joined a fundamentalist Protestant church that preached the exact things Crookshanks has posted; that the bible is literally true (every word of it), that we're all evil sinners, that anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus will be tortured in because they're the greatest evil in the world, etc. When they pushed me to read my bible, I did (for the first time), and I was mortified by how petty and full of anger god was. I had heard most of the stories before in religion class at school, but they're always softened up for children. Not so when you get it from the horse's mouth in the bible, and none of god's crimes ever seemed justified. After a few months in a protestant church, I said to with both of 'em and never looked back.

    How is it a crime? So basically you are saying that if there is a heavan and God does not deam you worthy of entrance, that you should just be left alone and not sent to , correct? That would make everything easier?

    Is it a crime for the guy who does the lethal injections to kill the man who raped and killed a child?

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    You are referring here to Acharya S's reading of the panels and inscriptions at the Luxor Temple. Her reading is forced and wrong. Thoth announces to Amun that he is to impregnate the Queen of Egypt, Neith. He has sex with her and impregnates her. (The ankh is a symbol of life, and is a stylized representation of the sexual act.) He announces to her that she will bear his son, Amenophis.

    Ina general sense, there are parallels between Jesus' nativity and various ancient legends of the birth of a king, but those parallels are the point.
    WHO THE IS ACHARYA S?

    Now back on topic.

    YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

    THAT STORY WAS PUBLISHED WAY BACK IN 1922

    SHAKEN CREEDS: The Virgin Birth Doctrine By Jocelyn Rhys - Published 1922
    http://www.amazon.com/Shaken-Creeds-.../dp/0766179885

    http://englishatheist.org/indexd.shtml


    Holy . It's like talking to a crazy person. Seriously.

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    How is it a crime? So basically you are saying that if there is a heavan and God does not deam you worthy of entrance, that you should just be left alone and not sent to , correct? That would make everything easier?

    Is it a crime for the guy who does the lethal injections to kill the man who raped and killed a child?
    Is it a crime to kill children? A mass murderer isn't my idea of a good guy.

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    ES, have you read Lee Strobel's works?

    IMO He produces some of the most lucid apologetic arguments around... his thought process is highly logical and the rationale of his conclusions is almost always explained.
    I am generally familiar with Strobel, but have not read his works outside of maybe a few pages of one book several years ago.

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    You better not ignore me like you did the other things.

    You are referring here to Acharya S's reading of the panels and inscriptions at the Luxor Temple. Her reading is forced and wrong. Thoth announces to Amun that he is to impregnate the Queen of Egypt, Neith. He has sex with her and impregnates her. (The ankh is a symbol of life, and is a stylized representation of the sexual act.) He announces to her that she will bear his son, Amenophis.

    Ina general sense, there are parallels between Jesus' nativity and various ancient legends of the birth of a king, but those parallels are the point.
    WHO THE IS ACHARYA S?

    Now back on topic.

    YOU DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT.

    THAT STORY WAS PUBLISHED WAY BACK IN 1922

    SHAKEN CREEDS: The Virgin Birth Doctrine By Jocelyn Rhys - Published 1922
    http://www.amazon.com/Shaken-Creeds-.../dp/0766179885

    http://englishatheist.org/indexd.shtml



    Now what do you have to say for yourself?

    Opps? Seriously, you are not being honest. You are trying your damndest to lie and just hang on to faith. That is not the search for truth.

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    Is it a crime to kill children? A mass murderer isn't my idea of a good guy.
    You did not answer my questions.

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    Can we all at least agree that mormons are going to .

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    I've found the truth!!!

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    Can we agree I just owned Extra Stout?

    I completely destroy him over and over yet it doesn't matter to you.

    I don't know why you guys do it. If Jesus isn't real, why hang on to it? Really, it's a huge hindrance to your edification.

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    Is it a crime to kill children? A mass murderer isn't my idea of a good guy.
    Lets not forget that man including the ones who walked with dinosaurs are all buring in . So anybody prior to the year 40 or so went to . Lots of Cavemen are seriously confused right now.

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    Lets not forget that man including the ones who walked with dinosaurs are all buring in . So anybody prior to the year 40 or so went to . Lots of Cavemen are seriously confused right now.
    I think he was referring to God being the killer.

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    It's absurd to believe the Jesus myth. Even when shown the reality that Jesus is just another form of Sun worship in a long line of Sun gods that share the same story and astrological events, it doesn't matter to some people.

    Nothing will ever free them of their fear. They will be ruled by fear until they die.

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    I've never looked back.

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    MiamiHeat = +

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    It's absurd to believe the Jesus myth. Even when shown the reality that Jesus is just another form of Sun worship in a long line of Sun gods that share the same story and astrological events, it doesn't matter to some people.

    Nothing will ever free them of their fear. They will be ruled by fear until they die.
    You crack me up. Fear my ass.

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    Another thing,

    isn't it funny how Protestants think they 'fixed' Christianity by branching away from the obviously flawed Catholic doctrine?

    Trying to purify and 'fix' a religion that was STARTED by Roman Catholics in the first place is like trying to clean and polish a flawed diamond into a perfect one. You can't do it. You started with an already flawed diamond. The Diamond has to be perfect from day one.

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    You crack me up. Fear my ass.
    so you ignore how I just slapped your friend Extra Stout up there?

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    Another thing,

    isn't it funny how Protestants think they 'fixed' Christianity by branching away from the obviously flawed Catholic doctrine?

    Trying to purify and 'fix' a religion that was STARTED by Roman Catholics in the first place is like trying to clean and polish a flawed diamond into a perfect one. You can't do it. You started with an already flawed diamond. The Diamond has to be perfect from day one.
    Man has been known to mess things up. God will love those who recieve his true message. Live on your own free will, but live a life of love. Care for those around you and you will be in my good grace.

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    so you ignore how I just slapped your friend Extra Stout up there?
    You've yet to prove jack squat.

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    Another thing,

    isn't it funny how Protestants think they 'fixed' Christianity by branching away from the obviously flawed Catholic doctrine?

    Trying to purify and 'fix' a religion that was STARTED by Roman Catholics in the first place is like trying to clean and polish a flawed diamond into a perfect one. You can't do it. You started with an already flawed diamond. The Diamond has to be perfect from day one.
    Please lets not forget the Mormons who also cherry picked what they wanted. I swear to god if the mormons don't go to I'm going to be pissed the off.

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    Fear is how humans are ruled.

    Look at how Hitler got the populace to do what he wanted. He attacked his own Reichstag and then blamed it on foreign invaders.

    "AHHH!! We are being attacked!"

    Through fear, the human population is easily ruled.

    This is the same concept with religion. Judeo-Christian mythology is BASED on fear.

    Do what I tell you - OR ELSE!

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    The MiamiHeat doctrine is seriously flawed.

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    Fear is how humans are ruled.

    Look at how Hitler got the populace to do what he wanted. He attacked his own Reichstag and then blamed it on foreign invaders.

    "AHHH!! We are being attacked!"

    Through fear, the human population is easily ruled.

    This is the same concept with religion. Judeo-Christian mythology is BASED on fear.

    Do what I tell you - OR ELSE!
    There you go again. I've never been afraid of God but you sure seem to fear religion.

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    Fear is how humans are ruled.

    Look at how Hitler got the populace to do what he wanted. He attacked his own Reichstag and then blamed it on foreign invaders.

    "AHHH!! We are being attacked!"

    Through fear, the human population is easily ruled.

    This is the same concept with religion. Judeo-Christian mythology is BASED on fear.

    Do what I tell you - OR ELSE!
    Then he killed himself.

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