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That's the spirit!
I have yet to see anyone cite that specific quote with any kind of reliable source and, at best, it's a meaningless comment that is wide open to interpretation.
That's the spirit!
You mean the NY Post is making up RJ quotes?
No, I'm saying I have not seen it, no one can produce it, and it doesn't prove anything.
From July 14: “Awesome, I wish it was sanctioned by the league,” he said of his experience at Nike Pro City. “It was good compe ion – great compe ion. I’ve only been working out for two or three days and these guys were really getting up and down the court.”
Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_...#ixzz0uNRzdlkv
So ... you don't believe him?
Well needs to get his ing ass to the gym.
or at least to the video room.
I agree with dbestpro. It's obvious this was pre-arranged.
This is how I think it went down...
There's no way that this was what the market would bear, which means the Spurs laid out the framework of this a while ago and most likely, if not convinced, at least played a part in Jefferson opting out. Jefferson and his agent told them that they'll accept the offer if after testing the market first they can't find a better fit or secure a better offer. When they realized they couldn't, they called them up and accepted their offer.
Even though the Spurs know they're overpaying, it's not by as much as it initially seems. As dbestpro pointed out, the Spurs are paying about $15.5 million for 3 years extra service (final season not even fully guaranteed, which makes him a valuable trade chip) when you factor in what they would have paid him next season originally on top of the luxury tax bill.
Could they have, when he finally agreed to accept the offer, lowered it? Sure, but that's unethical. Also, this allows him to save face and takes away the possibility of him pouting over his contract going forward.
So all things considered, is it an overpayment? Of course. But such was the price of playing a part in his decision to opt out. He did them a favor and in return, they did him one by giving him a contract he wasn't going to get anywhere else. In the end, when you factor in those things, I don't think it's quite as much an overpayment as it initially seems.
Last edited by TD 21; 07-21-2010 at 10:24 PM.
Horrible Horrible Horrible deal for the Spurs. Unbeavable.
And Spur fan had the gall to talk Bynum's contract (last year team option). The San Antonio front office has turned into pure ever since Presti bailed.
He could have meant in preparation for the Nike event. It's pretty open to interpretation and it still doesn't disprove Wojnarowski's claim.
Last edited by ohmwrecker; 07-21-2010 at 10:45 PM.
I agree with almost everything you wrote.
However, the RJ spacing issue, I think it's big, very big, and I think you put unwarranted optimism there. I HOPE RJ has the wherewithal (BBIQ) to change that, but that remains to be seen.
Also, the Spurs were losing big b4 the trade deadline in 2007, how'd that turn out? This season, the Spurs are going to be working in new players (Splitter + Dleague promotee,) so I think they might have some growing pains like last year (though not as bad w/ Dyse fully incorporated and RJ back.) I'd hate to give up TP because of that.
I don't know if this was posted, but looks like timvp was about right; 4 years, 38.8 million with a player option for year 4.
http://www.nba.com/news/features/ald...10.freeagency/Sources tells TNT's David Aldridge that forward Richard Jefferson's new contract with the San Antonio Spurs, officially announced on Wednesday, is for four years and $38.8 million, with a player option for the final season at a little more than $11 million.
Jefferson had opted out of the final year of his contract with the Spurs, which would have paid him $15 million next season, in order to test free agency. But most league officials believed the 30-year-old Jefferson would re-sign with the Spurs, who acquired him from Milwaukee last summer in a deal with the Bucks for Bruce Bowen and Kurt Thomas. Jefferson struggled for much of last season with the Spurs as he learned Gregg Popovich's system, averaging just 12.3 points, his lowest average since his rookie season.
But veteran players usually take at least a year or two to fully pick up the Spurs' complex offensive and defensive systems, and tend to improve greatly in their second or third season. The Spurs anticipate that Jefferson, a career 47 percent shooter, will return to his normal form next season.
Jefferson will make back all of the $15 million he gave up this year -- he will earn more than $27 million in the first three years of the deal -- and now has some security that he will not be a free agent in a summer where the possibility of a lockout by owners to get a new Collective Bargaining Agreement is increasingly likely.
Agree. Seems like he's talking about conditioning. His work with Pop on Spurs' schemes probably didn't come into play at the Nike camp.
Okay it was posted, my bad.
damn nice deal for rj
This off-season is basically an extension of the gamble the FO took on RJ last yr, but w/ better financing.
Spurs now have Bonner (Pop's not gonna get rid of [I]him[I],now, please) RJ, and Splitter all for the price of what RJ would have cost had he NOT opted out. And now the Spurs are under the tax line.
The gamble now is if RJ can improve his awareness and spacing, like Kori says.
Here's to hoping Pop can work some magic.
this makes me sick
If this is true it is by far the worst FO move since the Scola fiasco.
. Way to lock the team into mediocrity.
Why even put in a player option? Like he is ever going to walk away from 11mil... not.
ing terrible contract.
This mofo better be fan- ing-tastic for the next four years... the problem is, we all know he won't excel, he'll be just as patchily house as he was for most of last year. He'll be the same average ing player, only losing his legs a little each year as we pay him more.
WTF was the FO thinking? This is the sort of crappy move they usually avoid. What's worse, that contract is completely untradeable. Welcome to the declining years of RJ in a Spurs uniform.
This really pisses me off.
Laugh it up, . The FO just locked us into mediocrity for the next 4 years.
Spurs fans really need to understand something when it comes to the thinking behind this team.
There
Is
No
Long
Term
You have a coach who will likely retire when his main star retires within 3 years. You have the franchise who will more than likely retire within 3 years. You have a point guard who may very well leave for a new challenge in a year. You have a lot of young players who could possibly fill roles, but no true prospect to become the franchise outside of your point guard who may shortly leave as mentioned above. You have an owner who likely wanted very much to avoid the luxury tax this year and would rather pay 40 million over 4 years than 20 million over one year.
Overpaying could come back to bite the Spurs this year. There's no doubt about that. Maybe even next year, but there is also no doubt that the Spurs could not replace RJ with anything better than Malik Hariston and that was a worse option than taking a shot again with RJ.
DPG you can argue the opposite all you want but everyone you mentioned picking up for the LLE or something similar earlier this off season signed for more than we could have given them.
It comes down to the Spurs being in a ty situation and maximizing their chances this year at the cost of years 2-4. You guys may not like reality, but reality is what reality is.
There
Is
No
Long
Term.
hey we still have the draft in 2016
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