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Yeah but why would they take LMA if they already have Love, Thompson?
Even if LMA is the better player, he doesn't fill a need. Neither does Melo, but at least he might keep the best player on the planet from jumping ship.
Yeah but why would they take LMA if they already have Love, Thompson?
They may not take LMA (moved to a third team) or they may move someone like Love/Thompson in a deal as well.
How the can other teams allow themselves to have big 3's and even big 4's then? Something doesn't add up, tbh. Even you are talking about the idea of adding a third max contract guy (in Cousins) but are also saying that Kawhi and Irving would consume 80% of the cap space. Get in line with yourself, tbh.
Anyway, I don't give a . If you have a chance to add Irving, you do it. Specially if it is at Aldridge's expense, tbh.
Celtics could completely destroy Cavs if they send some of their assets to the Spurs for LMA, and then the Spurs use those assets to land Kyrie. They get the big they need while moving Cavs' #2 to the West mortally weakening the Cavs and making Celts the favorite in the east. Cavs can start rebuild for when LeBron leaves. And Spurs finally get a PG.
So the plot thickens... what if they trade Love and Irving.
Spurs get Irving
Cavs get LMA, Murray, Melo
New York gets Love or assets from another team that wants Love
Cleveland is talking to Rose and if they get him they have a stop gap at point.
Rose, Smith, Lebron, Melo, Aldridge
Calderon, Shumpert, Jefferson, Korver, Thompson, Frye, Murray
I mean there's been worse GM's. That's not bad on paper. They'd likely want Shumpert and Frye gone. This might be me but I'd take Frye, and to a much lesser extent Shumpert. Too many years on his deal and can't shoot well. How's Frye defense? Liability?
My guess a deal could get done with Murray, Aldridge, Green, and try not to include a first. I just wouldn't want to lose Green though.
Irving/Green/Leonard/Anderson/Gasol
Mills/Manu/Gay/Bertans/Joff
Forbes/White/Paul
Gay could close, for Anderson, but man we'd just need a solid big on D and isn't a stiff on Offense for small ball. I'd imagine in this scenario PATFO might take a look at Lee. Who's left with a pulse?
Reed was available but they passed on him, at this point they need to cut someone to add a big. Javale McGee? Withey? Look at this list:
http://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/ufa/center/available/
Centers:
Tyler Zeller C 27 UFA BOS TBD - - - - Festus Ezeli C 27 UFA POR TBD - - - - Boris Diaw C 35 UFA UTH TBD - - - - Roy Hibbert C 30 UFA DEN TBD - - - - Jordan Hill C 29 UFA MIN TBD - - - - Justin Hamilton C 27 UFA TOR TBD - - - - Marreese Speights C 29 UFA LAC TBD - - - - JaVale McGee C 29 UFA GSW TBD - - - - Stephen Zimmerman C 20 UFA ORL TBD - - - - Jeff Withey C 27 UFA UTH TBD - - - - Joel Anthony C 34 UFA SAS TBD - - - -
Traditional PF:
Tiago Splitter
PF 32 UFA PHI TBD - - - - LaVoy Allen PF 28 UFA IND TBD - - - - Kris Humphries PF 32 UFA ATL TBD - - - - Udonis Haslem PF 37 UFA MIA TBD - - - - Dante Cunningham PF 30 UFA NOP TBD - - - - Adreian Payne PF 26 UFA MIN TBD - - - - David Lee PF 34 UFA SAS TBD - - - - Brandon Bass PF 32 UFA LAC TBD - - - - Jordan Mickey PF 23 UFA BOS TBD - - - - Rakeem Christmas PF 25 UFA IND TBD - - - - Willie Reed PF 27 UFA MIA TBD - - - - Thomas Robinson PF 26 UFA LAL TBD - - - - Christian Wood PF 21 UFA CHA TBD - - - - Marshall Plumlee PF 25 UFA NYK TBD - - - - Maurice N'dour PF 25 UFA NYK TBD - - - - Kyle Wiltjer PF 24 UFA LAC TBD - - - - Donatas Motiejunas PF 26 UFA NOP TBD - - - - Ryan Kelly PF 26 UFA HOU TBD - - - - Derrick Williams PF 26 UFA CLE TBD - - - -
Last edited by SAGirl; 07-22-2017 at 02:00 AM.
That's the exact trade I posted earlier...
It's kinda sad but that's best/realistic Spurs-Cavs can do straight up....
Speights or Bono might work for small ball 5. Diaw might actually be perfect cause of his experience. And I'm just thinking like Warriors here but Boris could guard Draymond, and theoretically switch if he's got anything left in the tank.
I know you wouldn't want to see him get minutes over Anderson but he could over Bertans in this scenario.
Mills/Manu/Gay/Boris/Joff ... that ball would move. Still would need another C though
Edit: Splitter 😂 bring back the foreign legion. The bench would be happy. Would be fun year or miserable due to injuries
McGee is a liability on defense for pick n rolls. I think that's why he played so sparingly in the finals. He plays confused
I edited my original post to add traditional PF, they have guys like Tiago still available there... I'd just as soon choose someone who is defensive minded. I have no idea about Joff Lauvergne tbh so I am not giving opinions on him. I'll be thrilled if he turns out somewhat like Baynes, but he was apparently absolutely godawful as a small ball center and that is why he played as a PF, while being horrible as a shooter. I am not sure what he's doing in the team except soaking up regular minutes for injured players. If you remember, in that essay by Manu he talked just a little bit about him and mentioned in passing, that he could be behind LMA and Pau... IMO that would have been the same spot available to DLee and thus he declined his option and decided to test his luck in the market even when injured. With LMA being theoretically traded, maybe Lee would want to join the team? It's just a suggestion. At this point i do prefer Lee to Diaw if I must choose. Diaw is checked out. He was absolutely godawful last season for the Jazz and the season prior he was already losing minutes to a still shy 22 year old Anderson.... And you run the risk of, if you don't play Diaw, he will coast, balloon to 400 pounds lol and have to be cut. It's one of the reasons Diaw admitted Pop had him play in garbage time and such, to give him a workout. I would pass on Diaw at this point, and I used to love him. I would take DLee or someone else... For defense, probably Withey. I hope Joff Lauvergne is not as bad as he is in my mind tbh.
Good deal, but would like to stick with Forbes. Don't think he is deal breaker in any sense in this deal.
Then Cavs send Green + Love for Melo to Cavs.
I could dig all that. I've kind wanted to see both Tyson Chander and Shumpert on the Spurs years ago, so I wouldn't mind seeing what they can do now, that is, if we get Kyrie to go with them.
I hope the front office is all over this trying to make a deal happen. Pop needs to give Kyrie a call and get him to push for the Spurs to drive away other suitors.
I'm not sure if this is an official Rudy Gay instagram account (it seems like some kind of backup account, or team account https://www.instagram.com/rudygay8/), but he has a picture of Kyrie in a Spurs uniform saying "u comin or what???"
Last edited by Ice009; 07-22-2017 at 03:09 AM.
not a kyrie fan. i want the spurs to be a part of the deal but i don't want kyrie.
FWIW, I tried putting Kyrie Irving on the Spurs in 2K and they immediately shot up to #1 in team rating.
We already had the better player, tbh...
Bring back Nando de Colo
people overvalue the garbage that this team has tbh. On one side you have suggestions of a trade without adding Aldridge in it (as bad as he is, he is the best asset that we have right now), on the other you have others like Chinook, DPG not wanting to trade LMA and Green for kyrie irving.
he's not coming and Aldridge is the better player anyway.
Agreed on the first part but the second is
You do your damnest to keep lma and ship out some guards starting with green and Murray. We are still short in salary. Can't we do what rockets did an acquire ungaranteed contracts?
Jesus Christ posters here have reached the senile stage of threads like these.
Hopefully the "We didn't want him anyways" heartbroken stage isn't next.
undeniable?Agreed on the first part but the second is
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