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Jesus Christ I give up. Just award the hawks the Larry O’Brien trophy and give the spurs the #30 pick in the draft lol
Wright made a bad bet.
Jesus Christ I give up. Just award the hawks the Larry O’Brien trophy and give the spurs the #30 pick in the draft lol
They are just the most frustrating team. They lose games to the Wiz, Bulls, Blazers, Pistons... and then beat the Cavs, Celtics, Knicks and Bucks. Get drilled by 30 by Denver at home one night? No problem, just work over the Knicks in the garden in a cup game the next. It makes zero sense.
Spurs Head Office will come up with something........
I think they can pull another 2021 playoffs and advance to ECF only to lose to Boston
The most annoying part is they're actually playing good defense as a unit this season. They're currently ranked 9th in the NBA in Team Defense. So even if they have an off-night offensively, they're usually kept in games because they can lock down defensively on the other end. We saw that tonight after their slow start in the first half. They really locked in and started reeling off consecutive stops during their 28-7 run. Quin has those young guys playing hard and playing well.
If you mean the Murray trade, NO as it got us Wemby, even though we couldn't be sure about that.
If you mean holding onto the picks in potential trades (Markkanen) you may have a point, but I still like where we are, as it netted us other stuff (Barnes, Picks, ...).
And , at this point we can be sure that the pick won't land us Flagg, Traore and so on, but who knows...maybe a player being picked at #21 is something special as well. It's not that we are desperately searching for our Star player like most teams.
Last edited by mudyez; 12-12-2024 at 05:11 PM.
Man, that was a wild and fun game between the Hawks and the Knicks. Implications for the draft pick aside, I have to admit I actually like watching the Hawks right now. Jalen Johnson and Dyson Daniels are flat out balling, and they somehow are good enough defensively that they can win despite not being red hot on offense. Risacher didn't do much in the game against the Knicks, but overall, he will probably at least become a good role player - not his fault he was the first pick in a weak draft.
Huck the Fawks
Tbh it is out of Wright's control.
Somehow Hawks got lucky and choose Trae over Murray and hence eliminated their chemistry problem and also added all defensive 1st team Dyson Daniels.
It is just pure luck and Trae finally learnt to be more team orientated rather than chucking up 3s by himself.
Two picks and a swap in #15-25 range is fair value for DJ and was the initial assumption of return value because we thought Trae/DJ duo will work out and that they'll be an average playoff team.
Then we thought we hit a jackpot when they crumbled last season, but unfortunately it looks like it wasn't meant to be.
Right now we're sitting at #12 and #16 on tankathon, I think we can move into #7-9 range with those two picks, which would be a good outcome in a strong draft.
I don't think we're picking two rookies unless PATFO really likes someone.
The Spurs have already had amazing luck with the Tim Duncan era and now getting Wemby. Maybe Atlanta finishes as a top 4 seed or maybe they start having injuries. Who knows...but even if the Atlanta pick for next year doesn't turn out, Spurs have still been incredibly lucky. Heck, the number one player for the 2026 draft already said he would like to play for the Spurs.
I agree - the Hawks have been entertaining to watch. Trae has really changed his game to fit what they are trying to do, and they got huge leaps from Jalen Johnson and Dyson Daniels, and De'Andre Hunter has leveled up as well. Kudos to Quin Snyder for extracting a fun, exciting, winning brand of basketball... and kudos to Landry Fields on recovering from his predecessor's mistakes (DJM, John Collins contract, etc). Honestly... Fields is probably deserving of some Executive of the Year consideration.
It will be curious to see if they become buyers now that they have a pretty clear path to the playoffs. As of today they are tied for the 5th seed and 3 games up on the 8th seed. The Pacers, Sixers and maybe Pistons will all be looking to move up and compete for the playoffs, but everyone else behind them should be tanking (with the Nets and Bulls as the only question marks). They could probably use a little more depth, but their core rotation is pretty solid.
Also... wouldn't by any means say Wright made a bad bet. This is how things go when you trade for far out picks. There is a high degree of uncertainty and picks are more likely to NOT be high picks than they are to convey where you might hope. If you think otherwise, you're just delusional (let this be a warning for anyone assuming on MIN31 will be better than #8).
But at the end of the day, the DJM trade accomplished its mission: it allowed us to tank (getting Wemby was the result of that, but the objective of trading Murray was to tank, and that objective was accomplished) and it returned a return that everyone generally agreed was good.
I agree with mudyez that the only potential criticism would be to say that Wright should have had some additional foresight to see this coming and be more aggressive at using those picks for some other purpose. However, he may very well have his eyes on some prospects in that draft range, we don't know. BUT... if he ends up punting the ATL pick to 20132, that's going to be frustrating as and signal that this dude doesn't have a plan on how to best utilize these assets.
people jumping the gun at every opportunity.
We own the Hawks' picks for the next three years.
They are 14-12 in the first of those three years. Barely above .500. The NBA is a terribly unpredictable league... Hold your horses.
Even if we picked #20 this season with their pick, worst-case scenario, it still tells us nothing about next year's pick, and even less about the year after that.
Hopefully we can get a future starter at SF with our first pick and then use Atlanta pick to get a good backup for PG/PF/C
Yea bro...But atl looking like conterders in the east since the other east teams all of a sudden got bad at the worst time for us.Making those
We own the Hawks' picks for the next three years.
They are 14-12 in the first of those three years. Barely above .500. The NBA is a terribly unpredictable league... Hold your horses.
Even if we picked #20 this season with their pick, worst-case scenario, it still tells us nothing about next year's pick, and even less about the year after that.
picks lose alot of value the next years we own them.
I believe next year we have a pick swap with Atlanta not a pick so unless something major happens I am assuming will just keep our pick next year. Yes, a lot of things can happen as someone mentioned teams can go to wining to loosing in a blink of an eye so will see.
Atlanta is definitely not contenders
They are having a little hot spurt to start the season, just like a bunch of crappy teams do every year. Same thing happened with Indiana last year.
Spurs are only 1 game back on Atlanta overall in the league, and we sure as aren't contenders.
They will regress to the mean eventually, and are just lucky they play in the East. They would still get wiped out by Boston, Milwaukee, or even Cleveland in a 7-game series
This is probably how it plays out. It’s not the worst thing to have a mid-teens pick to find a specialist or project. For example, who is an Yves Missi type this coming draft?
But this upcoming draft is a very strong draft. Hence, would be optimal if we can get a high pick via hawks
We own the Hawks' picks for the next three years.
They are 14-12 in the first of those three years. Barely above .500. The NBA is a terribly unpredictable league... Hold your horses.
Even if we picked #20 this season with their pick, worst-case scenario, it still tells us nothing about next year's pick, and even less about the year after that.
I know it’s the talking point, but after the Top 3 are we sure it is that much better than any other draft?
Not a bad trade. However, we all got too excited assuming Atlanta would bottom out. Regardless, I'm glad Dejounte is off the team AND we get some compensation for it.
I would also throw in the silver lining of Hawks jumping to the No 1 spot in the draft last year. W/o that spurs may have ended up with a better pick and possibly missing out on castle.
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