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  1. #601
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    Mark Hunt would do a lot of damage in the UFC HW division. And he was top 10 when he fought Fedor...and he gave him a good fight.
    He would max out weight wise in the UFC HW division. Would he function at such a high level if he dropped so much?

    But why was he a top 10? Because of the fight with Cro Cop?
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    and keep in mind I am not saying he is a bad fighter by an means, just over rated a bit. Such a small sampling to judge him from.
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    He would max out weight wise in the UFC HW division. Would he function at such a high level if he dropped so much?

    But why was he a top 10? Because of the fight with Cro Cop?
    He could make 265. He fought in the 250's in K-1. After he fought Fedor he said that dropping weight was his goal, but I haven't heard anything else about him...

    CC is definitely his best win. 8 months ago the top 10 didn't include Couture or Gonzaga as they weren't even in the picture. The UFC HW's were Sylvia and Arlovski and that was it. Hunt was easily in the top 8 HW's in Pride. He was ranked #9 at the time. Maybe he was in the top 10 by default, but I think most feel that Hunt would wreck Sylvia...and I think he'd do well with Arlovski because he's just not the type to take somebody down and try to submit (no doubt Hunt's weakness). He showed that he could beat CC in what basically amounts for a K-1 match, and he took a full on head kick from CC, which nobody has ever done before. He's a dangerous fight for anybody...he's perfect for the UFC, IF he gets his weight down a little. You'd think it wouldn't be too hard. He's been about 290 lbs. Lose 15 lbs and cut 10. Not really that much to lose...but again, haven't heard a peep, other than other than a possible Bob Sapp vs Mark Hunt fight...but GFC seems to fail at everything...
    http://www.sherdog.net/forums/showthread.php?t=623576
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    and keep in mind I am not saying he is a bad fighter by an means, just over rated a bit. Such a small sampling to judge him from.
    Yea, we just haven't seen enough of him...he's still relatively new to MMA and he's fought some tough guys. Fedor, CC, Barnett, and Silva...not many guys have fought that group...
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    OK I can see that from your angle at looking how things were a year ago.

    Poor Timmy, gets no love.
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    Mayhem Miller's "Tapout" parody...genius...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSXBeecYCSQ
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    Mayhem Miller's "Tapout" parody...genius...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSXBeecYCSQ
    "I'll run to Hot Topic, you grab the face paint."
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    If Miller ever gets a UFC le….wow….that guy will be all over the place. Awesome personality.
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    Anothe great write up by the great Jeff Cain from mmaweekly.com

    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...4556&zoneid=13

    The only WWE wrestler who can make the change to MMA in my opinion, he is only 30. He has the wrestling skills no doubt....

    But anything else...I dunno.


    Settle down son........

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    Mayhem Miller's "Tapout" parody...genius...
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSXBeecYCSQ
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    I hate that show and the owners, they make cool clothes though

    I like what "patravius" posted on the video...

    that was great, tapout. its the #1 brand for "mma fighters" who dont actually train at a gym, and workout regimen consists of wrestling or boxing there friends who also dont train
    if you watch the show the fighters get annoyed by the tapout guys and can tell that their only in it so they can get a highly touted sponser.
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    Luke at BloodyElbow smacked Dana around nicely...
    http://bloodyelbow.com/story/2007/8/22/205932/422

    What Dana White has to say about how he treats fighters:

    The fighters in the UFC are treated very well. You have to remember, this is a business like any other business. But we got into this particular business because we love it and care about it and we try to develop it and make it get better. I like most of the guys in the sport. They're my friends. We're not going to mistreat the fighters. I wouldn't mistreat a friend and so I won't mistreat my fighters. The only fighter I really don't like is o. And you should know that none of them are unhappy with us.

    Then there's Dan Henderson's take:
    This is a stressful time for the Henderson family. Henderson's wife, Alison, is pregnant with their third child. She is due to have a c-section next week, then Henderson will leave for England a day later on Sept. 3. The Henderson's moved Alison's c-section up a week, so Dan could be there for his wife. Henderson said he had asked for the fight to be held in November or even the Sept. 22 date at the Honda Center, but he said UFC president Dana White insisted the fight would have to be on Sept. 8. Henderson is the consumate professional, so he is dealing with the situation. Alison said she wished she could give her husband more attention and support like she has for his past fights.
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    JOSH KOSCHECK HAS A SURPRISE FOR UFC FANS

    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...asp?a=4561&z=2

    I wonder what this big suprise is? Hrmm.. something UFC fans have never seen before. Does that include MMA as a whole? We've seen losses.. so that's nothing new.
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    I also liked this question, from the yahoo sports Q&A...

    FORKED TONGUE

    A few months ago you were writing Wanderlei Silva off because he "just got destroyed by Cro Cop" (in your words) but now you say his signing is the pinnacle of your seven-year UFC career. How do you reconcile all you said about Wanderlei, where you basically implied it's not worth it to put together a Silva vs. Liddell match after Silva's knockout loss to Cro Cop, with your comments after he signed with the UFC?

    Shaun Haines

    DW: I was pissed off when he lost to Cro Cop because Pride destroyed what would have been the biggest fight in MMA history. I was trying to make that fight for years and instead of them making it when he and Chuck both had les and both had been undefeated for a long time, they let him fight in a fight that did no business and they got him knocked out. I was legitimately upset because they ruined a mega-fight. I said it's the pinnacle because I said I wanted all the top talent in the UFC and I think now, we pretty much have it.

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    I'm sorry, but Dana is so full of ...he said it was the "pinnacle" because he has all the top talent now? It wasn't because he signed Silva??
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    Dana is an idiot. If Pride would've held shows in the US a few years earlier and more US promotion, we wouldn't even have to listen to quotes from him.
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    Dana is an idiot. If Pride would've held shows in the US a few years earlier and more US promotion, we wouldn't even have to listen to quotes from him.
    Would you prefer Gary Millen?
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    Not saying I disagree with you by the way, I am just saying had we been closer to PRIDE the problems with them would have been far bigger than we ever thought I think. PRIDE succeeded far longer than its management shelf life because of a few of its fighters.

    I dearly miss PRIDE but they had decay hanging off them for a bit.

    Dana is an idiot sometimes but he is very smart and this “at ude” persona of his will be gone as soon as he gets serious main stream criticism for it by ESPN and the like. Most of the time he seems to know when to turn it off. I will sometimes read a magazine write up where he is a completely different person then another when he is on TUF.

    He says many many stupid things but he is smart I think. If that makes sense.
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    JOSH KOSCHECK HAS A SURPRISE FOR UFC FANS

    http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...asp?a=4561&z=2

    I wonder what this big suprise is? Hrmm.. something UFC fans have never seen before. Does that include MMA as a whole? We've seen losses.. so that's nothing new.
    he's going to come to the ring with a broken bottle in his hand.
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    he's going to come to the ring with a broken bottle in his hand.

    They don't fight in a "ring" you gastrointestinal tract. If your going to troll at least have a clue what your trying to complaining about.
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    They don't fight in a "ring" you gastrointestinal tract. If your going to troll at least have a clue what your trying to complaining about.
    it's a joke.
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    Oh I know. Thats why I said "gastrointestinal tract" and not a real insult.
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    Would you prefer Gary Millen?
    Dana runs the gig -- Gary "Jerry" was the announcer. There's a big difference there.
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    Not saying I disagree with you by the way, I am just saying had we been closer to PRIDE the problems with them would have been far bigger than we ever thought I think. PRIDE succeeded far longer than its management shelf life because of a few of its fighters.

    I dearly miss PRIDE but they had decay hanging off them for a bit.

    Dana is an idiot sometimes but he is very smart and this “at ude” persona of his will be gone as soon as he gets serious main stream criticism for it by ESPN and the like. Most of the time he seems to know when to turn it off. I will sometimes read a magazine write up where he is a completely different person then another when he is on TUF.

    He says many many stupid things but he is smart I think. If that makes sense.
    I'm not sure on Dana. He's good at clarifying things at a later time, but most of the time he has foot-in-mouth disease. The only semi-intelligent things that he says are in direct relation to the UFC organization as a whole. Almost everything else should be taken with a grain salt; as most of it ends up being BS anyway.
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    Dana runs the gig -- Gary "Jerry" was the announcer. There's a big difference there.
    Yeah, but you said "quotes" so I thought you were just talking about him in interviews.

    But he also had a lot to do with the production of the PPV's. Granted he didn't fight match but he was more than an announcer...


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    Dana runs the gig -- Gary "Jerry" was the announcer. There's a big difference there.
    Millen wasn't an announcer for the fights...he was the face of Pride in the US, unfortunately. Vice President...

    http://evilmaster-mma.blogspot.com/2...ture-more.html
    http://evilmaster-mma.blogspot.com/2...ana-white.html
    http://evilmaster-mma.blogspot.com/2...pics-pt-3.html

    He was originally asked to commentate, but ended up producing and then became VP...
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