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Is Jim Jackson still alive?
i only want one thing:
A Full MLE player
5-6 millions a year, specially a PF or a Center
Is Jim Jackson still alive?
these are the FA that i consider:
J.R Smith
Ryan Gomes
Beno Udrih
Chris Duhon
Daniel Gibson
Mickael Pietrus
Matt Barnes
Kareem Rush
Ronny Turiaf
Kwame Brown
Ricky Davis
Desagana Diop
Keyon Dooling
Maurice Evans
Well there you go Rc and Pop get to work.
Ronny turiaf would be great for the MLE, lakers already have several bigs, well over the cap, and rather keep vujacic than turiaf, but according to some posters he's not a realistic option, though i do not really see why...
Another swingman that we might consider is Gelabale from SeattlePretty sure he is an UFA next season...I know he is coming off knee surgery, but he is young, athletic & can hit the 3...I'm not saying make him the main target with the MLE, but it might be worth it to take a chance with him for a minimum contract.
I like Gelabale but he is out until about January.
It won't be easy to include a young player that has missed the training camp and a couple of months.
Thanks Bruno...I knew he was out, but I didn't know he was out until January...your right though, he won't be able to help us out this year most likely...
Many decisions on who to sign will become clearer after the draft. I'd love for the Spurs to make an offer to Ryan Gomes, and if the Timberwolves pick Lopez or Love, that will lower the likelihood that they'd match a good offer. If they go for Mayo or a point guard, chances are they'll match any offer. Right now, I think Pietrus is the safest plan to at least keep in mind, and signing him might have some advantages beyond his youth and athleticism-- it could possibly make things more comfortable for Mahinmi to have two guys around who speak his language... if Pietrus could give 10 ppg, 6 rpg and Ian could supply 15 mpg, 5 ppg, 5 rpg, 1 bpg, that would be enough to keep the Spurs in the hunt for ring # 5.
What if our only FA signings were Jannero Pargo and Kurt Thomas?
What if there was no one we wanted at 26 and we traded the pick for two 2nds, and then we traded 57 for a 2nd in 2009?
2 - DeVon Hardin - we can never have enough dominant low post defenders
2 - Lester Hudson - being compared to Stuckey (if he can be anything close to Stuckey, this will be an excellent addition)
2 - Keith Brumbaugh - can score at will, great size, is a Spurs fan
C - Oberto, Mahimni, Bonner
PF - Duncan, Thomas, Hardin
SF - Bowen, Udoka, Brumbaugh
SG - Manu, Barry, Hudson
PG - Parker, Pargo, Vaughn
We could sign all 3 draft picks and then send them to Austin to get playing time and work on their individual skills, as well as learn one another. If they show anything in the DLeague, we bring them up to the regular roster and try to get them minutes in the rotation.
another scenario
GOOD-BYE
F Robert Horry
G/F Michael Finley
G Damon Stoudamire
TRADE BAIT
F/C Matt Bonner
PG Jacques Vaughn
DRAFT
2 - F/C DeVon Hardin
2 - G Lester Hudson
2 - F Keith Brumbaugh
2 - traded for 2009 2nd
FA Signings
G/F Matt Barnes
PG Jannero Pargo
F/C Kurt Thomas
2008-09 ROSTER
C - Oberto, Mahimni, Bonner
PF - Duncan, Thomas, Hardin
SF - Bowen, Udoka, Brumbaugh
SG - Manu, Barnes, Barry
PG - Parker, Pargo, Hudson
With this lineup, we still keep our Championship core. We also add some youth, athleticism, and much needed offensive firepower, while at the same time being able to maintain our defensive prowess.
what about getting back Devin Brown. He can defend and is capable of scoring. Monte Ellis? Eduardo Najera?
Kareem Rush and Kwame Brown are utter and complete stiffs. I hope you do sign one or both.
Here is what I see going on this off-season.
Barring any trades, I think there will be four open spots to fill. Trades cannot be forecasted, we can all speculate that this player or that might be had for a trade but it's just wild ass guessing on our part because it takes at least two to make it happen, if not more.
Our end of season starting line up was:
C/Oberto
PF/Duncan
SF/Bowen
SG/Finley
PG/Parker
Of that bunch, I can see Oberto being moved to the bench. He is an asset and while there is much gnashing about his lack of athleticism and anemic offense, he is quite good at passing, is familiar with the system, is a heady player, has a chemistry with Manu and can be effective in team D. I would like to see his role moved to coming in for spot help when Manu is on the floor.
Question is who takes over the starting position? I would offer it may be time for Duncan to be the center. I know in the Spurs system it doens't make a lot of difference so we may only be discussing semantics here. The second big should be either Thomas or Mahinmi. I am advocate of keeping Thomas. I think you want to keep some vets and not go entirely young. Thomas will be better with a training camp under his belt. He was thrown into the fire mid-season with the team and shined some moments and disappeared others. I think he improves this upcoming season.
If Mahinmi shows enough, he can take over the starting power forward spot. If not, Thomas is the starting 5 and Duncan your 4. One of the spots that will need to be filled will be Horry. Whether he retires or not, his time has come for him to leave. Bonner will likely stay and will get another chance to earn playing time. He may be part of a trade, who knows? So your bigs would be:
Duncan, Thomas, Oberto, Mahinmi, Bonner and open slot.
I don't think Diop is who you go with there. He would command too much money and unless Ian is a total bust, you go with someone for the Toros to develop. I think this also puts to rest the Javtokas talk as well. He ain't playing in Austin and unless they ditch on of the above five, there isn't room for him.
Small forward despite him being 37, I see Bowen as the starter until someone takes it from him. Ime Udoka should be better after a season with the team as well. DeMarr Johnson is gone. Unless Udoka is part of some package, I think you go with Bowen and Udoka as his back up. You replace Johnson with a draft pick.
Shooting guard is where we have the biggest challenge. I think the Spurs should say good bye to Finley. I know in the Express News there have been comments that they would like to keep him, I hope that is just CIA stuff. His productivity is not what you need from a starting guard on a contending team. Manu should stay as the back up or sixth man and his minutes managed especially coming off the summer he will have. Barry should be kept because of his familiarity with the system, small contract and the ability to play point in a pinch. This is where we need to spend the MLE money, for Michael Finley's replacement.
Point guard is probably our strongest starting position if you take into account age, experience and talent. Tony needs someone ahead of Jacque Vaughn in the depth chart. Damon Stoudamire is not that guys. I like using the LLE to try and get that player.
So the players that need to be replaced are:
Robert Horry
DeMarr Johnson
Michael Finley
Damon Stoudamire
I hope we use the MLE and are able to get J.R. Smith to replace Finley. Use the LLE for Dan au. In the draft, I want Bill Walker in the first round. Get a project big to play in Austin in the second round and if he is available at 57, I would take a flyer on the Brumbaugh and have him in Austin.
In the past, the Spurs MO was to get vets that were hungry to play for a team that had a realistic chance of winning it all. That formula was different when our big three were youngsters themselves. Now Manu and Tim are both over 30, we get some of what the vets bring us from them. I think you keep some of the older guys (Bowen, Barry, Oberto, Thomas and Vaughn) but you also need some young blood to be groomed by the vets as well.
You lost me at "Beno".
I'm all for going after Brian Cardinal myself. Dude looks like a baller.
Thomas in the starting lineup with Tim? Again?
I wish that never happens. In regular season we lost 5 of 9 games with KT as starter. In postseason we lost 4 of 8 games with him in starting position. That didn't work.
You said the Spurs need young blood and you want KT who was born in 1972 re-signed? C'mon. Diop born 1.982 and has more size, Lee is young too.
Any guy but not more KT, Horry or Finley. Don't get me wrong. I love these guys strong and savvy vet, but sincerely we need more size or less years.
Good post. I agree for the most part. The biggest need is shooting guard. That should be priority number one in the offseason. The shooting guard needs to be able to score and be good enough to start.
The draft you can get a DerMarr Johnson replacement. Walker, Rush, CDR, Batum or Budinger would be great to add to the fold at 26.
The two easiest spots to fill are the sixth big and the backup point. If Chalmers is on the board at 26, perhaps you take him and then get your swingman youngster at 45 by taking someone like Weems, Giddens or Forbes. I don't agree with au cuz au is even worse than Vaughn. I'd go with someone like Juan Dixon with the LLE.
The sixth big is the lowest priority. DeVon Hardin at 45 would be outstanding. If Jason Thompson falls, that's another great pick. Joey Dorsey at 45 is also very good.
As far as who starts at center, I don't like the idea of starting Thomas. He's too slow when paired with Duncan. I'd honestly just force feed Mahinmi. If Mahinmi can't handle it and fails, send him back to Austin and stick Oberto back into the starting lineup at around the All-Star break. If Mahinmi swims, that's fantastic. If he sinks, oh well at least he got experience and the Spurs can try again the next year.
I think basically it comes down to having four holes (starting SG, backup point, project wing and project big) and at least four assets (MLE, 26, 45 and LLE). And perhaps the biggest asset is the Spurs' ability to trade and take on contracts since they are so far below the luxury tax.
The Spurs need some retooling but I'm extremely confident they can get the job done. This isn't one of those summers where they have a couple dollars below the lux tax and a low pick in a bad draft. The Spurs actually have some tools to work with for the first time in a while.
It would be nice if we could raid the Trailblazers & take all the players they don't want...
Jarrett Jack- Backup PG
Martell Webster- SF we are looking for
Channing Frye- Backup C/PF
Where did you hear that the Blazers are looking to unload Webster?
Reading Portland forums..I didn't say they were going to "unloand" him, meaning giving him away, but last year they were happy with Outlaw & James Jones, not sure if he is going to resign with them, but I would not be suprised if he did..they need some type of vet leadership in that locker room..so if Webster can be moved for the right piece, I'm sure he will..its not like he is their franchise player..
I just wanted to know if you were wishing, or had some kind of info. I hadn't heard.
He may not be their franchise player, but he's a local product they drafted in the early lottery. I just can't see them dealing him(not that we'd have anything they'd want) because of their happiness with James Jones.
I Love the kids game and could even see him being are starting shooting-guard, but I don't see any chance in of it happening.
Of course no chance in ...with us...here's some more info on it..realgm.com has a 30 teams in 30 days thing going on..heres the link..
http://realgm.com/src_twoplusthefoul...draft_preview/
Sorry bout the long link...it wouldn't let me name the link
Here's he part we are talking about...
Greatest Areas of Improvement:
Upgrade at Small Forward
As mentioned above, this team only has two holes in the starting five – point guard and small forward. Martell Webster has been a suitable starter, and Travis Outlaw and James Jones provide plenty of punch off the bench, but if they wish to take themselves deep into the postseason, they need to consider packaging all of these extraneous point guards and small forwards and trade for an elite All Star level player at the three position.
Who Do the Fans Want?
According to Andrew Perna’s Portland Lottery Summit, an interactive column featuring the responses of true RealGM hoops fans hoping to add their two cents to the Trail Blazer Draft discussion, the fans of Portland have made it known that they would an upgrade at the small forward position. The consensus of the Blazer faithful suggested whom they want as the thirteenth overall selection in the 2008 NBA Draft:
Nicolas Batum, SF – France
If Batum does go at thirteen, makes you wonder what swingman will be left at 26.
[QUOTE=timvp;2589138]Good post. I agree for the most part. The biggest need is shooting guard. That should be priority number one in the offseason. The shooting guard needs to be able to score and be good enough to start.
Who do you think this shooting guard could be , TimVP ? i do not really see the ideal fit from the free agents already discussed ( besides heads I'd rather not to think of, see, vujacic, ricky davis, jr smith..) , so it could be by trade...every year spurs FO kind of surprise me
I could see them, maaaybe, splitting the MLE between James Jones and Eddie Najera, LLE on Juan Dixon, and a genius strike somehow by RC ( weirdest things happen ) to get Rush in the draft.
Last edited by silk; 06-10-2008 at 05:37 AM.
I think I want to go the "bad boy" route this draft and free agency.
J.R. Smith
Bill Walker
J.R. Giddens
For good measure, invite Keith Brumbaugh to summer camp. Originally I posted we should take a flyer on him at 57 but the more I read, the more I feel he will go undrafted.
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