Official 2016 Spurs Offseason Thread

[Spur|n|Austin]

^ Do ya'll think Pau would play limited bench minutes or what??

No way Monroe happens with Pau now on the squad.. Come on mannn.

[tmtcsc]

Assuming they moved TP to get him:

Kawhi Leonard
Lamarcus Aldridge
Pau Gasol
Danny Green
POINT GUARD ?

Greg Monroe
Dedmon
Patty Mills
Manu Ginobili
Kyle Anderson

Jonathan Simmons
Davis Bertans
Dejounte Murray
Bryn Forbes
Archiholdthemayo

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Greg Monroe? Wtf that makes no sense. No way we can afford him unless we swap Parker or Ginobili for him straight up, or trade Green + Mills + Anderson

Anderson is trash and Milwaukee will take him since he's tall and has a big reach. Mills is expandable now with Forbes on the team, but Green? Wtf

SOLD!

[GSH]

The Spurs could always move Parker but I'm not sure who they could sign to replace him.

That's been the problem all along, and it's the reason I was talking about the Spurs taking a year to re-build a month ago. They had too many needs to fill, and not enough money to fill them, and if they trade to fill one hole it opens up another. I didn't see any way around it then, and I don't see any way around it now.

With the pieces they have added, they have the makings of a "pretty good" team. I don't think they have the horses to really challenge for a ring without some very good luck, and maybe some bad luck for a few other teams. The last pick of the lottery this year was Denzel Valentine. He looked pretty damn good in SL. (He's the guy I said the Spurs should have tried to move up for.)

At this point, I don't think the Spurs will break their string of consecutive 50-win seasons. But the ac ulated weight of getting one of the last few picks in EVERY damn draft for that long eventually adds up. That's a lot of what we're feeling now. Yeah, Tim retired. But that's the point. When you don't have new (cheap) talent infusions, there's no margin for error. The Spurs have done an incredible job of making up for it. But that can't go on forever. Maybe if their stashes all turned out to be gems, but that's not even reasonable.

[San Antonio Slayer]

we needed to improve our lack of athleticism and rebounding+find a good starting center to replace TD. Gasol can be a starter but he can't solve the rebounding and athleticism problem at his age. Monroe is a way better starting center. I would love to have such a rebounder even at expense of Patty, Green and KA.

[Kindergarten Cop]

What a weird coincidence that you bought up Dave Chappelle. I just mentioned his name to a workmate earlier today. I was wondering where he disappeared to.

My brother and I went and watched him perform standup in Wichita just last month. It wasn't "Chapelle Show" good, but he's still got it.

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That's been the problem all along, and it's the reason I was talking about the Spurs taking a year to re-build a month ago. They had too many needs to fill, and not enough money to fill them, and if they trade to fill one hole it opens up another. I didn't see any way around it then, and I don't see any way around it now.

With the pieces they have added, they have the makings of a "pretty good" team. I don't think they have the horses to really challenge for a ring without some very good luck, and maybe some bad luck for a few other teams. The last pick of the lottery this year was Denzel Valentine. He looked pretty damn good in SL. (He's the guy I said the Spurs should have tried to move up for.)

At this point, I don't think the Spurs will break their string of consecutive 50-win seasons. But the ac ulated weight of getting one of the last few picks in EVERY damn draft for that long eventually adds up. That's a lot of what we're feeling now. Yeah, Tim retired. But that's the point. When you don't have new (cheap) talent infusions, there's no margin for error. The Spurs have done an incredible job of making up for it. But that can't go on forever. Maybe if their stashes all turned out to be gems, but that's not even reasonable.

If Tony Parker isn't able to slash to the basket consistently, I'm not sure how Patty Mills is a huge downgrade from him on either end of the floor. Since I'm all-in on the "size vs Golden State" train, at first blush I'd much rather have Patty Mills and Greg Monroe than Tony Parker and league-minimum big.

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My brother and I went and watched him perform standup in Wichita just last month. It wasn't "Chapelle Show" good, but he's still got it.

Women bee shoppin, baby!

[tmtcsc]

At this point, I don't think the Spurs will break their string of consecutive 50-win seasons. But the ac ulated weight of getting one of the last few picks in EVERY damn draft for that long eventually adds up. That's a lot of what we're feeling now. Yeah, Tim retired. But that's the point. When you don't have new (cheap) talent infusions, there's no margin for error. The Spurs have done an incredible job of making up for it. But that can't go on forever. Maybe if their stashes all turned out to be gems, but that's not even reasonable.

As is, the Spurs are easily Top 3 in the West. I'd like to see them improve their back court and that won't happen until next year most likely. Perhaps they really liked what they saw from Archie (PG) in SL and feel good about moving TP. Someone would need to take him (not Bucks) because Amico stated they are looking for a 3rd team to do the deal.

Having Gasol, Aldride, Monroe and Dedmon as our bigs is pretty formidable. Spurs would demolish most teams.

[cd98]

As is, the Spurs are easily Top 3 in the West. I'd like to see them improve their back court and that won't happen until next year most likely. Perhaps they really liked what they saw from Archie (PG) in SL and feel good about moving TP. Someone would need to take him (not Bucks) because Amico stated they are looking for a 3rd team to do the deal.

Having Gasol, Aldride, Monroe and Dedmon as our bigs is pretty formidable. Spurs would demolish most teams.

Just a thought. Which of the top playoff contenders has formidable big centers?

[szkorhetz]

As is, the Spurs are easily Top 3 in the West. I'd like to see them improve their back court and that won't happen until next year most likely. Perhaps they really liked what they saw from Archie (PG) in SL and feel good about moving TP. Someone would need to take him (not Bucks) because Amico stated they are looking for a 3rd team to do the deal.

Having Gasol, Aldride, Monroe and Dedmon as our bigs is pretty formidable. Spurs would demolish most teams.

Although I agree with your point, the season is lost if we can't beat GSW. We won't beat them with 4 traditional big men. Will Gasol or Monroe guard Green or Durant? No way. (Gay would make a lot of more sense.)

[Mr. Body]

Hmmm, I wonder what Presti is up to. JR Smith?

Isn't this a really move, rescinding the QO for Waiters? Essentially they put a curtain around him of intent and then once the league money is mostly dried up said, "Just kidding!"

[Chinook]

Isn't this a really move, rescinding the QO for Waiters? Essentially they put a curtain around him of intent and then once the league money is mostly dried up said, "Just kidding!"

Nah. He'll probably get offers now. It's not like teams are out of money.

[MaNu4Tres]

When you don't have new (cheap) talent infusions, there's no margin for error. The Spurs have done an incredible job of making up for it. But that can't go on forever. Maybe if their stashes all turned out to be gems, but that's not even reasonable.

You're not even mentioning the key to what makes Spurs FO so great. Even though SA has missed more than most on the free agent market in the past two decades, and even though they've drafted at the very end of the 1st round for the past two decades, R.C and the front office do an incredible job finding journeymen free agents that no one pays attention to. Their scouting, eye for talent, and eye for fit for the bottom of the barrel talent in the world is what seperates them from most, maybe all of the franchises. Without finding Jaren Jackson, Malik Rose on the market for pennies back in the late 90's, Spurs don't have their 1st le. Without the Spurs signing Stephen Jackson for the minimum when no one wanted him, or Bruce Bowen when no one wanted him because he couldn't score, Spurs don't win championship number 2. Jaren Jackson, Rose and Stephen Jackson all were more valuable than the 1st round picks during those years and were cheaper or just as cheap as the late first round salary. Fast forward years later, whether it be Oberto, Neal, Patty Mills, Danny Green -- these players, who played huge roles in the Spurs' success, weren't drafted by the Spurs and were ignored by most teams. This part of the Spurs' resources to improve their teams throughout the years goes unnoticed -- last yr they found Boban and Simmons for pennies when other teams looked the other way or had no clue about them. Same with Aron Baynes a few years back.

There's more to building teams than relying on your draft picks, draft stashes and the regular free agent market (players all the teams see or want).

[Leetonidas]

Greg Monroe?? wtf spurs really trying to capitalize on GS one weakness

[TheGreatYacht]

Ryan Arcidiacono is terrible. Dude averaged 2,2,2 on 35% in the summer league I doubt the Spurs are thinking "You know what Pop, I think we found our starting PG"

[spurs10]

You're not even mentioning the key to what makes Spurs FO so great. Even though SA has missed more than most on the free agent market in the past two decades, and even though they've drafted at the very end of the 1st round for the past two decades, R.C and the front office do an incredible job finding journeymen free agents that no one pays attention to. Their scouting, eye for talent, and eye for fit for the bottom of the barrel talent in the world is what seperates them from most, maybe all of the franchises. Without finding Jaren Jackson, Malik Rose on the market for pennies back in the late 90's, Spurs don't have their 1st le. Without the Spurs signing Stephen Jackson for the minimum when no one wanted him, or Bruce Bowen when no one wanted him because he couldn't score, Spurs don't win championship number 2. Jaren Jackson, Rose and Stephen Jackson all were more valuable than the 1st round picks during those years and were cheaper or just as cheap as the late first round salary. Fast forward years later, whether it be Oberto, Neal, Patty Mills, Danny Green -- these players, who played huge roles in the Spurs' success, weren't drafted by the Spurs and were ignored by most teams. This part of the Spurs' resources to improve their teams throughout the years goes unnoticed -- last yr they found Boban and Simmons for pennies when other teams looked the other way or had no clue about them. Same with Aron Baynes a few years back.

There's more to building teams than relying on your draft picks, draft stashes and the regular free agent market (players all the teams see or want).

Solid!

[tmtcsc]

It's pretty certain that no one can match up with GS by trying to go small. No one else has Durant, Curry and Thompson - so trying to go small against them is certain to fail. The alternative is to do the opposite. Get big guys on the floor who can pound them inside and out-rebound them. Those three point shots are still lower percentage than 2's and if you make them pay for missing, you have a chance.

I don't think people realize how important Raymond Green was to GS's success. He brought the ball up, hit 3's and rebounded like a fool. Take him out of the game and GS struggles. Who are their bigs now? David West, Green, ZaZa and who?

All the Spurs would have to do is make it work in late May / early June for 4 games.

[Mr. Body]

Nah. He'll probably get offers now. It's not like teams are out of money.

Fine. But maybe a team he preferred would have had money two weeks ago. This seems like something the Players' Association should look into. Gives the team too much power; if a QO is extended, there should be some obligation on the part of the team.

[spurs10]

The Spurs are going back to playing big man ball. They played out the small ball and are going to flip the script on the rest of the league. TP will be the smallest on the team. His backup pg will be a 6'9" or taller kid.

Like the thought of this.

[tmtcsc]

Ryan Arcidiacono is terrible. Dude averaged 2,2,2 on 35% in the summer league I doubt the Spurs are thinking "You know what Pop, I think we found our starting PG"

Yeah, I didn't see much from him either. Not sure why one reporter said the Spurs really liked what they saw. Did he make the right passes and keep the ball moving? I know Tim Legler was really impressed with him during the last game. He kept saying that Arcidiacono was making the right plays and keeping the offense from being stagnant.

[TheGreatYacht]

[Leetonidas]

It's pretty certain that no one can match up with GS by trying to go small. No one else has Durant, Curry and Thompson - so trying to go small against them is certain to fail. The alternative is to do the opposite. Get big guys on the floor who can pound them inside and out-rebound them. Those three point shots are still lower percentage than 2's and if you make them pay for missing, you have a chance.

I don't think people realize how important Raymond Green was to GS's success. He brought the ball up, hit 3's and rebounded like a fool. Take him out of the game and GS struggles. Who are their bigs now? David West, Green and who?

All the Spurs would have to do is make it work in late May / early June for 4 games.

Agree. I think Bogut will be an understated loss for them as well as he was probably their best defensive player or at least on par with green. he also set very good screens. we all saw curry struggling to get open like usual without Bogut screening for him

[TheGreatYacht]

Yeah, I didn't see much from him either. Not sure why one reporter said the Spurs really liked what they saw. Did he make the right passes and keep the ball moving? I know Tim Legler was really impressed with him during the last game. He kept saying that Arcidiacono was making the right plays and keeping the offense from being stagnant.

He's good at playing passing lanes and doesn't hold the ball for more than 2 seconds, maybe that impressed them? Idk but I really hope the Spurs just start Murray if Tony is traded. Keep Arci away

[spurs10]

must be nice being a millionaire in denver (or anywhere).

when i was there last summer... the first dispensary i went to... dave chappelle was there!

They are changing the name of their team from the Denver Nuggets to the Denver Kindbuds!