Bundy ranch situation in Nevada

[Winehole23]

it's an outrage that the Federal minimum sentence applies to serial arsonists who destroy public property.

an outrage!

[boutons_deux]

Oath Keepers Urge Members To Back Off Oregon Standoff: 'This Is The Opposite Of The Bundy Ranch'

The leader of the extremist Oath Keepers, one of the biggest players in the standoff at the Bundy ranch in Nevada, thinks that the Bundy brothers have gone too far. In a statement issued on New Year’s Day, Oath Keepers leader Stewart Rhodes said that although he’s sympathetic to Dwight and Steven Hammond, the ranchers convicted of arson, he wants no part in the Bundy sons’ takeover of a federal wildlife refuge because the Hammonds had not asked for help.

In a video statement, Rhodes said that the Oregon situation is “exactly the opposite of the Bundy ranch,” claiming that while militia groups “went to Bundy ranch to prevent that family from being Waco’d,” the current standoff is being “manufactured by potheads who want a fight” and is no longer a “peaceful protest.” He added that the Hammonds “were found guilty by a jury of their peers.”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/oath-keepers-urge-members-back-oregon-standoff-opposite-bundy-ranch

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Militia Leader: Oregon Takeover Possible False Flag That Could Lead To 'Ghastly Civil War'

Mike Vanderboegh, the leader of the Three Percenters militia group, wrote on his blog yesterday that the group in Oregon, which is being led by sons of rancher Cliven Bundy, is full of “sociopaths and idiots” and probably includes some who are working for the government.

Nevertheless, Vanderboegh, who warned at the Bundy ranch that the standoff could lead to “civil war on a vast scale” and more recently warned that a new Oregon gun buyers’ background check law could also lead to a civil war, wrote that if the federal government ends the Oregon standoff with force, he will have no choice but to join the Bundys in — you guessed it — a civil war.

In a statement published on his blog, Sipsey Street Irregulars, yesterday, Vanderboegh called the leaders of the Oregon takeover “federal provocateurs, sociopaths and idiots with a John Brown complex” and said that there are “far fewer than is claimed” occupying the building, adding that they have “written a check that they expect the rest of us to cash in our own blood in a ghastly civil war.”

http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/militia-leader-oregon-takeover-possible-false-flag-could-lead-ghastly-civil-war

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Oregon Considers Wall to Keep Out Angry White Men




BURNS, OREGON — A majority of Oregonians favor building a twenty-foot wall along the border of their state to prevent angry white men from getting in, a poll released on Monday shows.

The survey indicates that Oregonians are fed up with irate male Caucasians pouring into their state and bringing with them guns, violence, and terrorism.

“This used to be such a nice state,” said Oregon State Senator Carol Foyler, a pro-wall lawmaker. “Since the angry white men came here, parts of it are unrecognizable.”

But even as support for the Oregon wall grows, critics of the proposal say that it does nothing to address the fact that there are already thousands of angry white men living in the state.

Those critics favor forcibly removing the angry white men through mass deportations and resettling them elsewhere, possibly in Texas.

While some argue that the deportation of angry white men would separate them from their families, others believe that their families would be O.K. with seeing them go.

http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/oregon-considers-wall-to-keep-out-angry-white-men?mbid=nl_010316%20Borowitz%20Newsletter%20(1)&C NDID=&spMailingID=8397254&spUserID=MjczNzc0Njk0NDA S1&spJobID=840333605&spReportId=ODQwMzMzNjA1S0

[ChumpDumper]

Why do you try to hide your Borowitz links now?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Why do you try to hide your Borowitz links now?

Now? It's been hiding sources it knows are for awhile. Sophist stupidity is what it is.

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Why do you try to hide your Borowitz links now?

hilarious to see You People take some of them seriously

[boutons_deux]

Now? It's been hiding sources it knows are for awhile. Sophist stupidity is what it is.

Fuzzy's so butthurt, and he needs to look the definition of sophistry

[TeyshaBlue]

hilarious to see You People take some of them seriously

Nobody takes your links seriously. It might help if Borowitz was occasionally funny.

[TheSanityAnnex]

(o) Federal attorneys, Frank Papagni, hunted down a witness that was not mentally capable to be a credible witness. Dusty Hammond (grandson and nephew) testified that Steven told him to start a fire. He was 13 at the time and 24 when he testified (11 years later). At 24 Dusty had been suffering with mental problems for many years. He had estranged his family including his mother. Judge Hogan noted that Dusty’s memories as a 13-year-old boy were not clear or credible. He allowed the prosecution to continually use Dusty’s testimony anyway. When speaking to the Hammonds about this testimony, they understood that Dusty was manipulated and expressed nothing but love for their troubled grandson.o

the witness was with the perps.

[Winehole23]

that's one side of it. did the court allow the testimony?

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzzy's so butthurt, and he needs to look the definition of sophistry

Oh so your crusade against your VRWC and repugs doesn't assume itself. Sure thing. Let's get another big helping of megalomania that reeks of mental illness please. Perhaps referring to yourself in the 3rd person and ling yourself great?

[Winehole23]

the Hammonds propping up their troubled grandson as a shield and hiding behind his alleged mental incapacity hardly does them credit

[Winehole23]

setting fires on public ranges is cool with you, TSA?

no jail time for serial arson?

[Winehole23]

http://www.newyorker.com/cartoons/da...oregon-militia

[CosmicCowboy]

the Hammands setting fires to cover up illegal hunting of their own and setting backfires during a burn ban?

more good land management?

Sounds like a totally fabricated bull claim to me. BLM land is hundreds of thousands of acres. Lets get this in perspective....it was 147 acres...that's no "running hunters off of public land".

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sounds like a totally fabricated bull claim to me. BLM land is hundreds of thousands of acres. Lets get this in perspective....it was 147 acres...that's no "running hunters off of public land".

Well thank goodness we have you to look deeply into things because of course your off the hip confirmation bias has demonstrated to be oh so accurate. You're like a dog that keeps going after skunks.

[CosmicCowboy]

Well thank goodness we have you to look deeply into things because of course your off the hip confirmation bias has demonstrated to be oh so accurate. You're like a dog that keeps going after skunks.

Yep. And you are the skunk.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Yep. And you are the skunk.

If your entire schtick is for my benefit that is pretty sad.

So what should I conclude about your weight gain after a knee replacement btw? You cannot run or really walk for quite some time and you demonstrate poor impulse control. That tells me you probably cannot control your eating. I'm guessing at least 30 lbs. More if you aren't a midget.

[CosmicCowboy]

If your entire schtick is for my benefit that is pretty sad.

So what should I conclude about your weight gain after a knee replacement btw? You cannot run or really walk for quite some time and you demonstrate poor impulse control. That tells me you probably cannot control your eating. I'm guessing at least 30 lbs. More if you aren't a midget.

Same weight as when I played sports in college and ran 10 miles a day. You sure seem obsessed about my personal life, though. Pretty ing gay.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Same weight as when I played sports in college and ran 10 miles a day. You sure seem obsessed about my personal life, though. Pretty ing gay.

I don't believe you. And I think it's pretty clear the contempt I have for you. I'm not above hate ing but I actually have to love you first. Rape much?

Your problem is that I am insightful and I really cannot help it. It's not like I have to study you to come up with these takes. They are obvious. Prima facia youre s due to a lack of empathy and an extreme selfish streak. Congratulations if that is what you were going for.

gay? you realize such comments reveal more about you then me right?

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Fox Promotes Conspiracy Theorist Who Threatened Sexual Violence Against Hillary Clinton As Militia Spokesperson

During a May 17, 2013 rant about Hillary Clinton, Santilli said that he "would volunteer to shoot her right in the vajayjay,"

http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/01/04/fox-promotes-conspiracy-theorist-who-threatened/207723

you gun fellators really got a bunch of classy, deluded, lying, ignorat, paranoid assholes as spokesmen

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Oregon 'terrorists' don't plan siege very well, put out plea for snacks and supplies

http://i100.independent.co.uk/articl...es--ZJglh9sRjx

These aren't Real Patriots. Real Patriots subsist on delicious patriotism alone.

Feds should cut them off, nobody, nothing, in or out, drink urine, eat each other. Real Patriots are delicious.

[TheSanityAnnex]

setting fires on public ranges is cool with you, TSA?

no jail time for serial arson?

Serial arson

backfires have been lit before by other ranchers that spilled over to BLM land and they were fined and maybe did some a week or two in county jail. The Hammonds did their time and paid a large fine to BLM and in my eyes repaid their debt to society.

The BLM going after them again and forcing them to give the first rights of refusal on their land is sickening.

(j) In 2006 a massive lightning storm started multiple fires that joined together inflaming the countryside. To prevent the fire from destroying their winter range and possibly their home, Steven Hammond (Son) started a backfire on their private property. The backfire was successful in putting out the lightning fires that had covered thousands of acres within a short period of time. The backfire saved much of the range and vegetation needed to feed the cattle through the winter. Steven’s mother, Susan Hammond said: “The backfire worked perfectly, it put out the fire, saved the range and possibly our home”.

(j1) The next day federal agents went to the Harney County Sheriff's office and filled a police report making accusation against Dwight and Steven Hammond for starting the backfire. A few days after the backfire a Range-Con from the Burns District BLM office asked Steven if he would meet him in town (Frenchglen) for coffee. Steven accepted. When leaving he was arrested by the Harney County Sheriff Dave Glerup and BLM Ranger Orr. Sheriff Glerup then ordered him to go to the ranch and bring back his father. Both Dwight and Steven were booked and on multiple Oregon State charges. The Harney County District Attorney reviewed the accusation, evidence and charges, and determined that the accusations against Dwight & Steven Hammond did not warrant prosecution and dropped all the charges.

k) In 2011, 5 years after the police report was taken, the U.S. Attorney Office accused Dwight and Steven Hammond of completely different charges, they accused them of being “Terrorist” under the Federal An errorism Effective Death Penalty Act of 1996. This act carries a minimum sentence of five years in prison and a maximum sentence of death.

[TheSanityAnnex]

If your entire schtick is for my benefit that is pretty sad.

So what should I conclude about your weight gain after a knee replacement btw? You cannot run or really walk for quite some time and you demonstrate poor impulse control. That tells me you probably cannot control your eating. I'm guessing at least 30 lbs. More if you aren't a midget.

Why the are you fantasizing about his weight?