***** The Official 2015 Avante Football Thread *****

**Avante** · 12-28-2015

No they're 14-1 good and AZ is going to get stomped in Charlotte

Ever thought of cooling the little kid hero worship bull and actually delving into reality?

The Pathers won 4 games by a combined 14 points. They were one play away from losing all 4. Dude, do you ever deal with real life at all? This silliness you play is so stupid, ok? KEEP IT5 REAL....alright?

Yes the Panthers are a good team in 2015, ok? Just not 14-1 good and only a fool like you would think they are.

Beat...

Sea...thanks to a blown coverage.
Indy by 3
NO by 3
NYG by 3

Ok little fella?

Arizona is going to get....stomped...??????? Watch this half pint.

I'd think getting...STOMPED..would be at least 14 points, right? Ok shorty give me 14 points and I'll take the Cards, deal?

You really can't see that Arizona is the superior team, do you watch the games?

**Avante** · 12-28-2015

I do get a kick out of watching you guys, hahaha!!!!!!!

How about...KEEP IT REAL~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Yes Russell Wilson is a great young talent, yes Newton is among the top half dozen QB's in the league. Yes Palmer is having a great season, yes Tom Brady is the best right now. And, yes Aaron Rodgers is a HOF talent.

How anyone couldn't see that....????????????

All this....I just don't like......is stupid, ok? My fav is watching you dummies dumping on black QB's. You really don't see what is going on at the HS/NCAA level, well guess what? That ability to run is a biggie, if ya can't understand that you're dumb, ok? It's far harder to defened a guy with some serious wheels, honest it is and if ya ever played the game you'd know this.

But....it is entertaining watching total morons like Clipper Nation, what a dummy, hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

**N0 LyF3 ScRuB** · 12-28-2015

Talk about overreacting over one game

**Avante** · 12-28-2015

Originally Posted by N0 LyF3 ScRuB

Talk about overreacting over one game

Dude, how long have I been saying.....the Panthers played an easy schedule...well? Just keep it real, something you never ever ever do, you're like a little kid with a hero, a little girl at a rock concert who digs the drummer. dead serious. My team the Niners totally suck, that's keeping it real, ok? But....we are one of the top 3 franchises ever, ok? That is keeping it real.

Dude, stop with the silliness and actually look at things as they actually are, ok guy?

With less than a minute to go the Seahawks had ya beat, right? And ya won three more games by three points. Don't act re ed and say ya couldn't have lost all those games, ok?

**Avante** · 12-28-2015

If we look at points scored vs given up with the playoff teams.

NFC

Cards plus 206
Panthers plus 164
Seahawks plus 116
Vikes plus 56
Pack plus 52
Redskins minus 2

AFC

Pats plus 160
Bengals plus 135 with a game to go
Chiefs plus 112
Jets plus 78
Broncos plus 49 with a game to go
Texans 2

Steelers? plus 88

Both the Redskins and Texans only there because of the sad divisions they play in. And they are stll sucking.

Barring injuries it does look like Pats vs Cards in the SB.

**Avante** · 12-29-2015

Speaking of wide receivers, each teams best two.

*** both in the HOF or will be

Niners...Jerry Rice/Terrell Owens***
Rams...Isacc Bruce/Torry Holt
Seahawks...Steve Largent/Brian Blades
Cards....Larry Fitzgerald/Roy Green
Panthers...Steve Smith/Mushin Muhammad
Buc's....Mark Carrier/Kevin House
Saints...Marques Colston/Joe Horn
Falcons...Roddy White/Julio Jones
Vikes..Chris Carter/Randy Moss***
Lions...Calvin Johnson/Herman Moore
Bears...Brandon Marshall/Johnnny Morris
Packers...Donald Driver/James Lofton
Redskins...Art Monk/Charley Taylor***
Cowboys...Michael Irvin/Bob Hayes***
Giants...Armani Toomer/Homer Jones
Eagles...Harold Carmichael/Tommy McDonald
Raiders...Tim Brown/Fred Biletnikoff***
Broncos...Rod Smith/Lionel Taylor
Chiefs...Otis Taylor/Henry Marshall
Chargers...Lance Alworth/Charlie Joiner***
Colts...Marvin Harrison/Ray Berry***
Jags...Jimmy Smith/Keenan McCardell
ans/Oilers...Ernest Givens/Drew Hill
Texans...Andre Johnson/Kevin Walter
Browns...Dante Levelli/Mac Speedie
Bengals...Chad Johnson/Carl Pickens
Ravens...Derrick Mason/Mark Clayton
Steelers...Hines Ward/Antonio Brown
Dolphins...Mark Duper/Mark Clayton
Bills....Andre Reed/Eric Moulds
Jets...Don Maynard/Wesley Walker
Pats...Stanley Morgan/Wes Welker

Can't ignore Paul Warfield a HOFer who played with the Browns and Dolphins. While at Ohio State he was a RB and a world class long jumper.

Bobby Mitc a one time RB beside Jim Brown in Cleveland, but ended up a HOF receiver with the Redskins. He was a Big10 100/hurdles champ while at Illinois.

John Stallworth and Lynn Swan*** both HOFers with the Steelers.

*** two time Cali State long jump champ while at Serra HS, yep, the same HS Tom Brady attended.

**Avante** · 12-29-2015

Are we really looking at....

AFC playoff QB's

Bengals...A,J.McCarron
Broncos...Brock Osweiler
Jets...Ryan Fitzpatrick
Chiefs....Alex Smith
Texans...Brandon Weeden

And....Tom Brady

**Pelicans78** · 12-29-2015

I would rank Joe Horn over Eric Martin. Not sure how you missed that.

**Avante** · 12-29-2015

Originally Posted by Pelicans78

I would rank Joe Horn over Eric Martin. Not sure how you missed that.

Talk about being close there it is. And I did have Horn and changed my mind.

Martin

yards...7, 854
rec...532
td's...48

Horn

7, 622
523
50

But, Horn did put up his numbers in less game. So I'm going to agree with you and go back to Horn, will fix it.

**Avante** · 12-29-2015

How I rank the playoff teams.

1.NE...Belichick/Brady by far the best coach/QB combo
2.Ariz....no weaknesses
3.Seattle...been there/done that lately
4.Carolina...a bit of a fake
5.Bengals....so many weapons
6.Broncos...defense~~~
7.Packers...Aaron Rodgers
8.Chiefs....Andy Reid
9.Jets....defense~~~~~
10.Vikes....one n' done
11.Redskins..one n' done
12.Texans..one n' done

If the Jets lose and the Steelers get in then they'd be ranked above the Packers. Which is why the current system sucks. The Steelers are better than half the teams there.

They need to drop the NFC vs AFC thing and make it to where any two teams can meet in a SB. Just take the top 12 teams, divsions also. Go with points scored if a tie.

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Really like this David Johnson with the Cards, how he ended up at Northern Iowa, ???? A great size with speed combo. He is a bit like Otis Anderson their all time leading rusher.

**Avante** · 12-29-2015

I'm watching the next Darren Sproles in TT's Jakeem Grant. One of those little guys who would be fantastic in flag football, so quick and elusive. Grant with more straight line speed than Sproles.

Why these teams don't take a Trindon Holliday, Jeff Demps, Dri Archer and stick them in the slot/out in space, and just dink and dunk, all those guiys can make ya miss and go the distance.

**Avante** · 12-30-2015

Predictions

Oklahoma beats Clemson, with Perine having a huge day.
Alabama beats MSU, with Henry starring.
Arizona wins the NFC
NE wins the AFC
Alabama beats Oklahoma
NE beats Arizona

These Bama players have been there and done that same with these Pats, that can't be said about these Sooners/Cards, that is a biggie.

**chunticakes** · 01-02-2016

Originally Posted by Avante

Predictions

Oklahoma beats Clemson, with Perine having a huge day.
Alabama beats MSU, with Henry starring.
Arizona wins the NFC
NE wins the AFC
Alabama beats Oklahoma
NE beats Arizona

These Bama players have been there and done that same with these Pats, that can't be said about these Sooners/Cards, that is a biggie.

Give me 5 picks for tomorrow. I got a lot of money riding on five picks tomorrow for a pick em league.

**chunticakes** · 01-02-2016

spurraider21 I'm #4 in Rhino with 5 picks left for tomorrow. The #1 overall guy already clinched, he's 66-34, I'm currently 59-36. I can either jump up to as high as #2 or fall out of the top 5 with my pics tomorrow.

**Avante** · 01-03-2016

Originally Posted by chunticakes

Give me 5 picks for tomorrow. I got a lot of money riding on five picks tomorrow for a pick em league.

I don't play it that way.

Right now it's real important I head into the playoffs with house $$$$, I'm up a little over a $1000, and want to stay that way. The only play I'll step out on is Pitt - 10, they need the game, are at home vs a back up QB. Will play 110 to win 100.

I can give up some "spots" that favor a team.

ATS

Cincy 5-1 vs Ravens
Skins 7-1 vs Dallas
Lions 5-1 vs Chicago
GB 5-1 vs Vikes
Seattle 4-1 vs Ariz

Those are the strongest plays on the board.

**chunticakes** · 01-03-2016

I saw the Dallas line and laughed. They're -3.5. I honestly hope we tank for a better pick.

**Avante** · 01-03-2016

Originally Posted by chunticakes

I saw the Dallas line and laughed. They're -3.5. I honestly hope we tank for a better pick.

Week 17 will have players not wanting to spend the off season hobbling around. Then there's those teams in the playoffs who will resting anyone slightly injured.

Week 17 is a bad week from an ATS perspective. We don't know what we might get.

This is why I looked for the best play with a playoff hopefull vs a team going nowhere. The Steelers haven't lost the last two games of a season since 2007, and -10 seems about right.

**Avante** · 01-03-2016

As of right now, it does look like the Pats and the Cards in the biggie.

The Cards pretty much have it all, and the Pats have the best coach/QB combo we have seen.

**Avante** · 01-03-2016

ANOTHER....winning week.

So that's plus $1240 for the reg season, will pocket 500 and play with the rest.

If you'd played my plays the last two seasons plus $3340.

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Just how good is Russell Wilson?

**HemisfairArena** · 01-03-2016

Originally Posted by Avante

Are we really looking at....

AFC playoff QB's

Bengals...A,J.McCarron
Broncos...Brock Osweiler
Jets...Ryan Fitzpatrick
Chiefs....Alex Smith
Texans...Brandon Weeden

And....Tom Brady

Big Ben says o and the Pats have lost 4 of their last 6 and look horrible,,,,

**HemisfairArena** · 01-03-2016

Originally Posted by Avante

As of right now, it does look like the Pats and the Cards in the biggie.

The Cards pretty much have it all, and the Pats have the best coach/QB combo we have seen.

,,,,LMAO