Bathroom Access For Transgender Student Sparks Debate

[TheSanityAnnex]

We're discussing whether the rights afforded to people who identify as a different sex than they are born as are the same as the rights afforded to people who identify as a different race. Answer: They're not.

This is just getting underway and the lines are just starting to be blurred. I don't see a difference in identifying with a different sex or identifying with a different race, do you?

[TheSanityAnnex]

Most likely the vast majority of women won't have a problem with the transgender women using their restroom. Seems like there's a greater chance that they're going to share a bathroom with some self-styled James O'Keefe videotaping himself using the women's restroom to prove a point.

It's not the transgenders I think they'll have a problem with.

[Spurminator]

This is just getting underway and the lines are just starting to be blurred. I don't see a difference in identifying with a different sex or identifying with a different race, do you?

I don't really care what people identify as personally, but they can't claim legally to be minority unless they have a parent who was. The whole point of affirmative action and minority benefits is to offset prejudice of their ancestors that put them at a disadvantage today. If we do away with the legal implications of being a minority, I really don't give a what anyone calls themselves.

The comment I originally responded to claimed that people could do this today to receive benefits. They can't.

[Spurminator]

It's not the transgenders I think they'll have a problem with.

Right, it's the perverts pretending to be transgender women. As we've established already, that's not an issue in places where this was already policy.

[TheSanityAnnex]

I don't really care what people identify as personally, but they can't claim legally to be minority unless they have a parent who was. The whole point of affirmative action and minority benefits is to offset prejudice of their ancestors that put them at a disadvantage today. If we do away with the legal implications of being a minority, I really don't give a what anyone calls themselves.

The comment I originally responded to claimed that people could do this today to receive benefits. They can't.

It appears we took rmt's comment differently. I didn't read it as to receive benefits.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Right, it's the perverts pretending to be transgender women. As we've established already, that's not an issue in places where this was already policy.

We're just getting started so its wait and see. I predict much backlash from women.

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[russellgoat]

I don't really care what people identify as personally, but they can't claim legally to be minority unless they have a parent who was. The whole point of affirmative action and minority benefits is to offset prejudice of their ancestors that put them at a disadvantage today. If we do away with the legal implications of being a minority, I really don't give a what anyone calls themselves.

The comment I originally responded to claimed that people could do this today to receive benefits. They can't.

But white born trnasracial people that identify as a minority throw away their white privilege to live as their desired race. Race is a social construct after all. They should receive all the benefits just like the transwoman who receives all the benefits affirmative action give her despite being born with a penis. Shouldn't they at least stop being mocked by progressives?

[Spurminator]

They should receive all the benefits just like the transwoman who receives all the benefits affirmative action give her despite being born with a penis.

What benefits are those, specifically?

[russellgoat]

What benefits are those, specifically?

whatever benefit, rights, buffer of discrimination or whatever you want to call it minorities should get.

[Spurminator]

whatever benefit, rights, buffer of discrimination or whatever you want to call it minorities should get.

Oh so now we're talking hypothetical? Because I could swear you just said transwomen get benefits.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Murder is definitely routine and acceptable for some in our society. Probably a higher percentage than are transexuals.

uh huh. That is why it's illegal in the western world and has been for a millenium. WE hold these rights to be unalienable... murder, oppression, and a dead end.

Meanwhile

[russellgoat]

Oh so now we're talking hypothetical? Because I could swear you just said transwomen get benefits.

Aren't we talking about the hypothetical benefits a transracial person would get in this thread? What's the problem of a transracial person getting "benefits" if they threw away their white privilege? Do you think transracial people like Rachel deserve all the mockery she got by the media?

[Spurminator]

Aren't we talking about the hypothetical benefits a transracial person would get in this thread?

Bathroom access is a benefit?

What's the problem of a transracial person getting "benefits" if they threw away their white privilege?

If you feel that strongly about it, write your representative. The subject of "transracial" people receiving minority benefits is not one I'm particularly passionate about.

Do you think transracial people like Rachel deserve all the mockery she got by the media?

I didn't really pay attention to the media's coverage of it but conservatives on this board and social media sure had a field day with her for a few weeks.

I have no problem with her losing her NAACP post.

[Blake]

Like I've said from the beginning it will be the backlash from women that will force the entire country to change all bathrooms to single occupancy unisex. Huge waste of money to accommodate .03% of the population for which only a small percent of that was even complaining.

They're complaining about the law.

....which was enacted out of fear of that ".03"%

[TheSanityAnnex]

I have no problem with her losing her NAACP post.

Why don't you have a problem with her losing post because she's not actually African American? She identified as such and was only doing good things for the Africsn American community.

[russellgoat]

Bathroom access is a benefit?



If you feel that strongly about it, write your representative. The subject of "transracial" people receiving minority benefits is not one I'm particularly passionate about.



I didn't really pay attention to the media's coverage of it but conservatives on this board and social media sure had a field day with her for a few weeks.

I have no problem with her losing her NAACP post.

I'm not talking about conservatives because progressives are supposed to be the ones defending people against mockery for their unusual iden y. I bet you aren't passionate about transracial people's rights because you are a sheep and your overlords in the media haven't told you to support them.

[Blake]

Why don't you have a problem with her losing post because she's not actually African American? She identified as such and was only doing good things for the Africsn American community.

Lying on your job application is bad.

[TheSanityAnnex]

They're complaining about the law.

....which was enacted out of fear of that ".03"%

You are out of touch or ignorant, the complaint is about people taking advantage of the law, which we are already seeing.

[TheSanityAnnex]

Lying on your job application is bad.

That's what she indentified as. Is "Kaitlyn Jenner" a liar for applying for a job as a woman?

[Spurminator]

I'm not talking about conservatives because progressives are supposed to be the ones defending people against mockery for their unusual iden y.

You would think that because:

you are a sheep and your overlords

have told you to think that about the damn libruls.

[Spurminator]

Why don't you have a problem with her losing post because she's not actually African American? She identified as such and was only doing good things for the Africsn American community.

You obviously know a lot more about her than I do and have very strong feelings about the rights of the transracial. But it sounds like the NAACP believed her dishonesty about her heritage disqualified her from the position.

[TeyshaBlue]

They're complaining about the law.

....which was enacted out of fear of that ".03"%

Microaccomodation tbh.

[Spurminator]

But hey, if Big Government Republicans start writing legislation that white citizens are no longer to darken their skin, get dreadlocks and call themselves black, I'm sure you will hear more opposition to that law, because that would be pretty ridiculous, no?

[Spurminator]

You are out of touch or ignorant, the complaint is about people taking advantage of the law, which we are already seeing.

How many examples of this have occurred in California since the School Success and Opportunity Act of 2013 was signed?

Please compare this to homicides-by-gun over the same span.

Thanks.