NBA: Could ST be wrong about Klay Thompson

[Raven]

" b...but... but it was about who puts up pts faster "

Also DMC and djohn2oo8 get all the but others like Raven and 313 had some pretty awful takes on this one as well, tbh.

liiiiike....? i'm pretty sure klay is winning his second le, so i'm not sure how exactly can someone say something bad about his play...

[Clipper Nation]

He's heating up, he's on fire! Klay Thompson and the truth about the hot hand

http://scores.espn.com/nba/story/_/p...h-hot-hand-nba

Interesting article about the "hot hand".

Seems obvious to NBA fans however. Something you can control isn't random. It all relies on your ability to control it, which is different for different people.

He's eating up, his weight gets higher! DMC and the truth about the fat hand

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[DAF86]

liiiiike....? i'm pretty sure klay is winning his second le, so i'm not sure how exactly can someone say something bad about his play...

Like these:

as I was saying for a while, he's the 2nd best defender at the position, after LDN. While that may not mean much, it makes him better than the like of harden and it's really not close. Saying he can't create his own shot is weird, since he can basically pull up from half court and that would count as a good shot for him, otherwise you could say the same for Curry. Not creating for others is neither here nor there since he is not a pg and they have a boatload of ball dominant players anyway. He carried them by himself in the playoffs. In short, he is the mvp of the position.

i'd like to hear by what definition is he not a superstar..

yes, I don't agree with it. Seems a very convenient definition and if you'd take Harden or Davis over Klay then bad for you I guess..

why is being better or worse than KL any relevant in being a superstar? I mean guys like derrick rose and carmelo anthony are still considered superstars even though they suck. KL is a generational talent and very much a top 2 player in the world. Klay is probably about #7. Sounds superstar to me, especially when you consider him and curry carry the nba brand currently.

lol at a guy averaging 15 ppg, 2 apg and 40% from the field being a "superstar".

His team doesn't even need him to ring
"i'm pretty sure klay is winning his second le, so i'm not sure how exactly can someone say something bad about his play"
Zaza is winning a ring too, I guess we can't say anything bad about his play either.

[DMC]

Like these:









lol at guy averaging 15 ppg, 2 apg and 40% from the field being a "superstar".

His team doesn't even need him to ring
"i'm pretty sure klay is winning his second le, so i'm not sure how exactly can someone say something bad about his play"
Zaza is winning a ring too, I guess we can't say anything bad about his play either.

Manu = Jesus Christ

[DAF86]

Manu = Jesus Christ

That's a much better take than Klay > Kawhi, tbh.

[DMC]

" b...but... but it was about who puts up pts faster "

Also DMC and djohn2oo8 get all the but others like Raven and 313 had some pretty awful takes on this one as well, tbh.

Why did you stop your bold emphasis right before the caveat emptor?

Someone who does that isn't an honest person.

When that was posted, it was December 2016. Kawhi had just come off losing to OKC in the 2nd round. Klay carried his team against OKC in the WCF and mounted a comeback down 3-1. Had Kawhi done that you'd be calling him the next Michael Jordan. Kawhi averaged more PPG than Kawhi in 2016 season.

Homers like you and salty gots like CN don't know about basketball. You just want to be justified in your belief that your team has the better offensive player who just happens to lose to the same team that was beaten by a worse offensive player.

"I slipped" -John Turturro, Color of Money (or) Kawhi Leonard, 2016 2nd round.

[DMC]

That's a much better take than Klay > Kawhi, tbh.

If that's what I said you'd be right but coming from someone who thinks a guy who never averaged 20ppg in his career could have carried a team in the NBA as the face of the franchise, it doesn't mean much.

[DAF86]

Why did you stop your bold emphasis right before the caveat emptor?

Someone who does that isn't an honest person.

When that was posted, it was December 2016. Kawhi had just come off losing to OKC in the 2nd round. Klay carried his team against OKC in the WCF and mounted a comeback down 3-1. Had Kawhi done that you'd be calling him the next Michael Jordan. Kawhi averaged more PPG than Kawhi in 2016 season.

Homers like you and salty gots like CN don't know about basketball. You just want to be justified in your belief that your team has the better offensive player who just happens to lose to the same team that was beaten by a worse offensive player.

"I slipped" -John Turturro, Color of Money (or) Kawhi Leonard, 2016 2nd round.

Too bad you kept arguing for Klay > Kawhi this season too.

Either way, "Klay is much better offensive option than Kawhi" was re ed even duirng 2016, so you have no chance to save face, tbh.

[DAF86]

If that's what I said you'd be right but coming from someone who thinks a guy who never averaged 20ppg in his career could have carried a team in the NBA as the face of the franchise, it doesn't mean much.

"I'm gonna throw a stupid, ambiguous line like 'puts up pts faster' to try and distract from the fact that I literally said: 'Klay is a much better offensive player than Kawhi'"

[DMC]

Too bad you kept arguing for Klay > Kawhi this season too.

Either way, "Klay is much better offensive option than Kawhi" was re ed even duirng 2016, so you have no chance to save face, tbh.

no

2016 playoffs

Kawhi 22ppg
Klay 24ppg

This is with Kawhi as basically 1b option behind Aldridge.

Revisionist history might suit you if your country harbored Nazis though, so I can understand your tendency to Baghdad Bob the forum, but nuh uh.

[Raven]

Like these:









lol at a guy averaging 15 ppg, 2 apg and 40% from the field being a "superstar".

His team doesn't even need him to ring
"i'm pretty sure klay is winning his second le, so i'm not sure how exactly can someone say something bad about his play"
Zaza is winning a ring too, I guess we can't say anything bad about his play either.

he seems to be playing pretty good to me tbh

[DAF86]

he seems to be playing pretty good to me tbh

Well, you don't seem to be seeing pretty well then.

[DAF86]

no

2016 playoffs

Kawhi 22ppg
Klay 24ppg

This is with Kawhi as basically 1b option behind Aldridge.

Revisionist history might suit you if your country harbored Nazis though, so I can understand your tendency to Baghdad Bob the forum, but nuh uh.

Yes:

DeRozan better than Lebron and Kawhi... based on your reasoning

3rd option vs 1st option

The Westbrook principle

Career averages

Answer the questions.

Is DeRozan better than Steph or Durant? Is Isaiah Thomas better than James Harden, Lebron, Steph and Kawhi? His PPG "right now" would suggest so.

So state your case, why is KL a better scorer "right now" than Klay Thompson?

This whole time you've used PPG as evidence and you used it again yesterday.

Above, you moved the goal posts and used double standards several times.

1. Other players coasting (not needing to score suddenly relieves someone of the onus of offense, unless you're name is Klay)
2. 3rd option (Klay)
3. Playmaking (now assists are important, ignore the fact someone has to score to get one)
4. Career averages (Klay's is higher)

So here are your options:

1.
2. Go blind

Neither is required to completely carry the team. Both would have higher averages if they were. So only rational people who understand relationships and stats. Besides, "coasting" is just a euphemism for "lower ppg as 1st option". You've had some bull excuse for every caveat you've used.


You've ignored everything I've listed.

Higher career average
More career points (in same time span)
record for points in a quarter
60 points in 29 minutes
Higher career game total points
3rd option still averaging 21ppg
KL was basically 1st option last year and averaged 21ppg.
Everyone ahead of him in ppg is basically a 1a or 1b option on their team.

That's your opinion. Klay has never been the 1st option. You really think Klay Thompson can't average more per game than he's averaging as a 3rd option? Doesn't just saying that make you feel even more stupid? Just look at Kawhi's numbers to see how stupid that is, comparing his "formative" years to his 1st option years.

He's never been 1st option. You said it yourself, Klay is 3rd option and was 2nd at best last year when Kawhi was 1st and still Klay matched him in ppg.

Not 1st option on offense. How many times do we have to go down this road? Last time Klay had 30 (33) shots in a game he scored 60 pts. Leonard's personal best is 41pts on 30 shots.

A guy who has shown he can score that fast as to set a single quarter record and put in 60pts in 29 minutes, that's a scorer. Leonard is a good scorer as well, but this is the 1st season he's taken that much of a scoring load onto his shoulders, and we're not even at the break and you're already proclaiming him better offensively than Klay.

Those are just some of the examples of you arguing for Klay over Kawhi THIS season, there are many more.

[DMC]

you just quoting random posts as if any of that is cohesive and germaine to the ty point you're trying to push forward.

Hey dumb ... the "no" was to this:

"was re ed even duirng 2016"

But great job spending an hour digging up unrelated text. Maybe you need to focus more on english comprehension.

[DMC]

Well, you don't seem to be seeing pretty well then.

Goddamn you're salty as . You're sore that Manu is probably retiring have never led a team. The best athlete your country ever produced was a bench player.

[DAF86]

you just quoting random posts as if any of that is cohesive and germaine to the ty point you're trying to push forward.

Hey dumb ... the "no" was to this:

"was re ed even duirng 2016"

But great job spending an hour digging up unrelated text. Maybe you need to focus more on english comprehension.

"An hour"

I don't know how much time it takes you, but for people like me (a person without mental shortcomings) searching in this forum doesn't take more than 2 or 3 minutes, tbh.

And yes, it was re ed arguing that "Klay was a much better offensive player than Kawhi" back in december of 2016 (proved by the fact that people smarter than you took a huge dump on your take with facts and sensible reasoning), and it is even more re ed to keep arguing it now, in 2017.

[DAF86]

Goddamn you're salty as . You're sore that Manu is probably retiring have never led a team. The best athlete your country ever produced was a bench player.

The best athlete of my country is the GOAT of the most popular sport in the World, tbh.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with Manu, stop trying to do what you always do by shifting focus from your re ed opinions, son. If you want people not remembering your stupid takes, maybe you should stop providing them all together, since they are usually pretty bad, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

The best athlete of my country is the GOAT of the most popular sport in the World, tbh.

LeBron is Argentinian?

[DAF86]

LeBron is Argentinian?

Basketball isn't the most popular sport in the World, tbh.

[Clipper Nation]

Basketball isn't the most popular sport in the World, tbh.

Thinking povertyball is a sport

[DMC]

"An hour"

I don't know how much time it takes you, but for people like me (a person without mental shortcomings) searching in this forum doesn't take more than 2 or 3 minutes, tbh.

And yes, it was re ed arguing that "Klay was a much better offensive player than Kawhi" back in december of 2016 (proved by the fact that people smarter than you took a huge dump on your take with facts and sensible reasoning), and it is even more re ed to keep arguing it now, in 2017.

It's right there dude. Your previous post was "3 hours ago" and that long winded research "rent free" debacle was "2 hours ago". US math says that's 1 hour.

proven by the fact that someone else said it...

Stupid Argie nationalist got

[DMC]

The best athlete of my country is the GOAT of the most popular sport in the World, tbh.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with Manu, stop trying to do what you always do by shifting focus from your re ed opinions, son. If you want people not remembering your stupid takes, maybe you should stop providing them all together, since they are usually pretty bad, tbh.

no

Popular /= best athlete.

[DAF86]

It's right there dude. Your previous post was "3 hours ago" and that long winded research "rent free" debacle was "2 hours ago". US math says that's 1 hour.

Right, because I have nothing better to do than spend the 24 hours of the day posting on an internet forum. The delay could have never been because I had other things to do, like actually working for a living.

[DMC]

Right, because I have nothing better to do than spend the 24 hours of the day posting on an internet forum. The delay could have never been because I had other things to do, like actually working for a living.

you started around noon and it's ing 8pm already. Idiot.