Woj: Zach Collins Agrees to 3-Yr, $22M Deal with Spurs

[Mugen]

Stop deflecting; own your L. You say plenty of dumb but this time you tried to play with the Bear ( around and you might get mauled )!

Zollins getting an extension might be the highlight of your year considering how far below the poverty line you're living. I'm happy that Zollins stayed healthy and has played well enough to get a new deal. Maybe some of that money will trickle down to you, poor guy

[TD 21]

Asked and answered. The whole thing with tsunderes is that they act like they don't care when they do. That's how you get "I'm not here to be popular" combined with a post of all the times you were right on a topic. What makes it funnier is that that list of posts is from this off-season when we all thought Collins should get an extension but had been under the impression the max starting salary was going to be too low for him.

Like for example, in response to the first post you quoted, I said this:



So by that time, it wasn't even a clever call or a risk. I and a few others wanted a different kind of center. We'll see how that goes, though I hope Collins is the guy. But you tooting your horn about him getting an extension when even when you started saying that the answer was "duh" is funny.

So once again telling me what my motive is. I wasn't tooting my horn (and the duh was my perception that it should be a no brainer, not that it was a consensus), I was recapping my many thoughts on him and the position on the Spurs in general.

I'm not here to be popular, unpopular or anything in between. I'm just being me (blunt) and calling it like I see it.

"Our", "we", etc. don't worry, your groupthink "buddies" should be here in no time to back you up. But I wouldn't expect anything less from a guy too cowardly too name names on a message board.

[daslicer]

He's a great enforcer definitely will be worth it when guys try to play dirty against Wemby.

[Chinook]

So once again telling me what my motive is. I wasn't tooting my horn (and the duh was my perception that it should be a no brainer, not that it was a consensus), I was recapping my many thoughts on him and the position on the Spurs in general.

So you didn't say a motive there. You just said what you did. You could do that recap in order to try to gain clout, or to try to call aliens to abduct you, to awaken Cthullu, etc. You're right that only you know your motivations for sure, but it does feel like you were keen to take my comment to be about you rather than the behavior in the thread that was explicitly as I had described. Don't get me wrong, I was ribbing you a bit with the comment too, but you didn't need to identify with the "receipts crowd" and shouldn't've if you were merely musing on the nature of post history or whatever.

It's not a big deal, man. That was the whole point of the post that's gotten you in a tizzy. Maybe when I was younger, I cared about ST in that kind of way. But I don't have time to be playing cowboys and indians on a message board anymore. I'm not worried about friends and enemies -- just folks who bounce ideas off to talk to. You're actually one of the more dynamic people on this board. It just comes with a certain level of defensiveness that's sometimes fun to poke at and other times annoying to cut through.

[KobesAchilles]

I look pretty ing prophetic in this thread. It was a good signing, we tanked with Collins (when everyone said we wouldn’t), and we got lucky af and drafted Wemby.

[Atl Spur]

Zollins getting an extension might be the highlight of your year considering how far below the poverty line you're living. I'm happy that Zollins stayed healthy and has played well enough to get a new deal. Maybe some of that money will trickle down to you, poor guy

Oh yeah! This is what I was baiting you in to the old I got or make more money than you do argument!! Lol. Want to make a bet on that? I’m going to embarrass you clown but you brought it on yourself bum. Don’t let your ego get you totally humiliated. JS

[Russ]

Collins, Sochan and Wemby -- that could be a comfortable core of front line guys who actually like each other.

Then you got Branham, Vassell and KJ.

Just fill in and win.

[TD 21]

So you didn't say a motive there. You just said what you did. You could do that recap in order to try to gain clout, or to try to call aliens to abduct you, to awaken Cthullu, etc. You're right that only you know your motivations for sure, but it does feel like you were keen to take my comment to be about you rather than the behavior in the thread that was explicitly as I had described. Don't get me wrong, I was ribbing you a bit with the comment too, but you didn't need to identify with the "receipts crowd" and shouldn't've if you were merely musing on the nature of post history or whatever.

It's not a big deal, man. That was the whole point of the post that's gotten you in a tizzy. Maybe when I was younger, I cared about ST in that kind of way. But I don't have time to be playing cowboys and indians on a message board anymore. I'm not worried about friends and enemies -- just folks who bounce ideas off to talk to. You're actually one of the more dynamic people on this board. It just comes with a certain level of defensiveness that's sometimes fun to poke at and other times annoying to cut through.

For some reason, I always liked when you started off a sentence with "So".

I'm not in a tizzy, it seems you are though. Despite the perception, I never am. Speaking of which, what kind of an idiot do you take me for, if you don't realize that I didn't know the perception would be that I was "tooting my own horn"? That goes back to my saying I don't care.

I type a lot in my job, so sometimes (as you've probably seen) I will copy and paste old comments rather than re-type them, particularly if I'm going to be long winded.

[Sugus]

Your initial reaction was “I’m in danger”

Oops, I thought I went all the way back on that quote... Tbh, I would've liked it a lot more with a max to the other Collins as well. Now it's moot since we have Wemby, but I'd always liked John Collins to the Spurs (at least till I learned his shooting finger is ed irreparably). Some on the board hate him but whatever.

[Sugus]

Sniff Crew going HAM because their beloved PATFO got lucky AF landing Wemby

Still on the shticks, eh? You know better than anyone how wrong you've been about the Spurs FO and they've shut you the up, tbh. I stand by it, I really like that the forum's general mood has progressed past the OMG SPURS BAD LOL stage.

Optimism is great dude, feel free to join in anytime.

[Sugus]

It's amazing how seriously some people take this board. We all get stuff wrong. Some of us are aggressively, consistently wrong. What does it matter? We're all just here to shoot the . But some folks seem to have a need to be popular and have to keep track of all their good and bad takes. What's the result? If poster A is wrong all the time, what's going to happen? Are they going to get banned or pinked? If Poster B has top-flight takes, do they get a cash bonus? Don't get me wrong, just like shooting the , sometimes it's relevant to bring up a person's previous takes. But some folks just seem obsessed with massaging their reputation via attempting to control their history.

Meh, everyone likes being right and nobody likes being wrong as general human concepts, and message boards give a really fun way to track down specifically what was said, and when, to great comedic effect on quotings. I don't care for it any more than giving the s to some posters. You're making it bigger than it is tbh.

I also write a lot on my posts, just like you, not because I'm personally invested in what I say, but because I like to be precise and thoughtful when I comment. And given that I've been personally attacked for it, and my personal views, repeatedly, are you in any way surprised that it's fun to dish it as it is to take it? You should join in

Start that "worst quotes of last year" thread by all means, I haven't seen any of the previous ones and it sounds like a fun idea! I'll do a multi-year crossing and get one of my Samanic-Will-Work-Out takes on it

[Leetonidas]

What a crazy world that I'd go from ing about this previous contract to fighting with folks on RGM that this extension isn't a bad deal.

The people on the TnT forum, especially the mods, are a bunch of asshats that pretend they watch every team and just look up stats without nuance. Texas Cuck and MoneyTalks are two of the biggest s on that forum imo. Dude thinks Zach is objectively bad but will yammer on about how Dwight Powell is actually a good player

[Chomag]

Dude is going to be the surprise player this year

[Chinook]

The people on the TnT forum, especially the mods, are a bunch of asshats that pretend they watch every team and just look up stats without nuance. Texas Cuck and MoneyTalks are two of the biggest s on that forum imo. Dude thinks Zach is objectively bad but will yammer on about how Dwight Powell is actually a good player

Not to get political, but Chuck does have that white liberal mentality of "I'll tell you what I'm supposed to apologize for" where he thinks he's already called out and accounted for his biases. It doesn't register to him that he is extremely skeptical of Spurs players, and he takes any push-back as others being unreasonable. I'm glad they've stopped disciplining people for calling someone a homer, because it used to feel almost oppressive at times. They weren't willing to be questioned at all.

[Chinook]

For some reason, I always liked when you started off a sentence with "So".

I'm not in a tizzy, it seems you are though. Despite the perception, I never am. Speaking of which, what kind of an idiot do you take me for, if you don't realize that I didn't know the perception would be that I was "tooting my own horn"? That goes back to my saying I don't care.

I type a lot in my job, so sometimes (as you've probably seen) I will copy and paste old comments rather than re-type them, particularly if I'm going to be long winded.

Fair enough.

Or I guess I should say, "So fair enough"?

[spurraider21]

Not to get political, but

[Atl Spur]

Someone please tell mugen he can post again….. I’ll play nice So sensitive…..

[spurraider21]

we got the wrong collins

[Fizziksman]

He made bank and already trying to sit out of games

[spurraider21]

In typical ST fashion, two highly respected minds are in this thread talking about how Drew Eubanks is better player than Zach and "it's not close."

Reminds me of when people on this site wanted to trade DJM PLUS a bunch of picks for Ben Simmons.

This board can be awfully myopic sometimes.

eubanks is so good the suns tampered to get him

[scott]

Imagine tampering for ing Drew Eubanks

Also, tampering rules are a joke

[Fizziksman]

The desperation of the Suns lol. Never recovered from the Hip Check

[Chinook]

In typical ST fashion, two highly respected minds are in this thread talking about how Drew Eubanks is better player than Zach and "it's not close."

Reminds me of when people on this site wanted to trade DJM PLUS a bunch of picks for Ben Simmons.

This board can be awfully myopic sometimes.

Thanks for trying to keep my name out of it, but yikes. I was pretty vociferous. Eubanks is actually a solid player, especially as a flier big. Collins had more gears to get to, but it's much more about how good Zach became after he got healthy than it was how Drew had stacked up to what Collins had shown thus far. It worked out for the Spurs, though.

It goes to show that being able to craft well-reasons arguments isn't the same thing as being able to read the future. ST isn't a place where we decide the fates of players or any action the organization takes. It's merely folks sitting around burping out utterances in response to the things they see. The winds will blow whatever way, no matter how many paragraphs some of us stack up trying to direct the flow.

[scott]

Thanks for trying to keep my name out of it, but yikes. I was pretty vociferous. Eubanks is actually a solid player, especially as a flier big. Collins had more gears to get to, but it's much more about how good Zach became after he got healthy than it was how Drew had stacked up to what Collins had shown thus far. It worked out for the Spurs, though.

It goes to show that being able to craft well-reasons arguments isn't the same thing as being able to read the future. ST isn't a place where we decide the fates of players or any action the organization takes. It's merely folks sitting around burping out utterances in response to the things they see. The winds will blow whatever way, no matter how many paragraphs some of us stack up trying to direct the flow.

Second paragraph is on point!

[TimDunkem]

Where the did this idiot go off and die to?

Him and Gmbit been MIA for a while now....

I forgot you existed. Rent free.

I will say Collins is quite good for the league. He's responsible for plenty of posters. Too bad he's always on the receiving end. lol